September 10, 2024; US Shipping, Prep & General Q&A

Video link: https://youtu.be/21YqN9jDU2U

Summary

In this engaging video, a group of sellers discusses the challenges and strategies of managing inventory and sales during the bustling Q4 season. They candidly share their experiences with the difficulties of predicting stock levels and cash flow, especially in light of Amazon's unpredictable policies. With a lighthearted tone, they delve into topics such as hiring help to manage increased workflow, the pros and cons of various selling models, and tips for maximizing efficiency. The conversation offers valuable insights for both seasoned sellers and newcomers, as the participants navigate the ever-changing landscape of e-commerce together.

Here's a structured breakdown of the video content:

Part 1: Q4 Inventory Concerns Timecode: 00:00 - 05:00 Discussion on preparing for Q4 sales. Feelings of inadequate inventory and cash flow challenges. Reference to previous years' sales data for stocking decisions. Mention of uncertainties with Amazon listings affecting inventory strategy.

Part 2: Strategies for Entering Q4 Timecode: 05:01 - 10:00 Insights on businesses that only sell in Q4 vs. year-round sellers. Conversations about strategies for stocking toys during Q4. Thoughts on potential sales spikes due to Black Friday and Prime events. Concerns about inventory management, especially with new suppliers or products.

Part 3: Getting Help and Leveraging Resources Timecode: 10:01 - 15:00 Discussion about the necessity of hiring help for inventory preparation. The experience of hiring family members for assistance. Highlighting the efficiency of teamwork in handling preparations. Value of prep centers and outsourcing for scaling operations.

Part 4: Insights into Current Market Trends Timecode: 15:01 - 25:00 Overview of current trends in inventory management. Discussion on the problems faced with Amazon storefronts. Conversations about difficulties with sourcing and navigating Amazon's regulations. Reflect on the challenges of importing items from Canada to the US market.

Part 5: Tools and Strategies for Sourcing Materials Timecode: 25:01 - 40:00 Introduction of a new tool for tracking inventory and pricing. Explanation on the use of scraping tools for product data collection. Discussion on the implementations of discord bots for improved sourcing. Summary of using past sales data for making informed stocking decisions.

Final Thoughts Timecode: 40:01 - End Reflecting on the need for adaptability in sourcing processes. Continued trading advice and resource-sharing within the community. Closing remarks on future sales strategies and partnerships for Q4 readiness.

This structured breakdown highlights the main discussions and insights of the video in a concise manner.

Detailed Summary:

In this video, the speakers engage in a comprehensive discussion about their experiences navigating Q4 in the e-commerce landscape, particularly focusing on selling through platforms like Amazon. The conversation begins with the shared anxiety about inventory levels as they prepare for the busy fourth quarter.

They discuss the challenges of predicting inventory needs and maintaining healthy cash flow, emphasizing that even with years of experience, the uncertainty around demand—particularly when dealing with Amazon listings—persists. The upcoming Prime Day and Black Friday are identified as key sales opportunities, prompting a strategic approach to stocking up.

A notable point of conversation revolves around sellers who focus solely on Q4, sharing stories of those who sell toys year-round but see a spike only during the holiday season. One of the speakers expresses a sense of envy towards those who can take extended time off while maintaining profitability, pointing out the uncertainty in such a business model, as it could hinder consistent growth.

They discuss operational strategies, including the importance of involving family members for help with inventory preparation, sharing insights on how little assistance can significantly boost productivity. The discussion also touches on the logistics of inventory prep, touching on how distractions can lead to inefficiencies when handling tasks alone.

The speakers go on to talk about their experiences in warehouse management. One of them shares their struggles with cash flow and inventory due to recent travels, resulting in low stock levels and increased pressure to replenish inventory rapidly. The balance between US and Canadian markets is also explored, specifically regarding the benefits of sourcing products from both while considering the associated costs and logistics.

In fresh updates about Amazon, they highlight recent restrictions on certain brands and how these trends impact long-term strategies. They express concern about difficulties in maintaining inventory across various platforms due to changing restrictions.

As they delve deeper into operational practices, they point out the significance and potential profitability of leveraging technology for sourcing and selling, sharing insights on automation tools that can facilitate easier tracking of prices and availability of products through existing marketplaces.

The conversation shifts briefly toward pop culture, specifically music, where the speakers reveal their tastes and preferences spanning various genres. They discuss the influence of nostalgia, particularly the impact of 90s hip-hop on their life's soundtrack.

The dialogue wraps up with insights about leveraging retailer relationships for better inventory access and the ongoing struggle with e-commerce's rapidly changing landscape, especially regarding inventory management and adaptation to market trends. Collectively, they reflect on the importance of strategic planning as they gear up for the high-stakes Q4 period.

Video Transcript

(00:00) so this will be like your first full-fledged Q4 then yeah yeah okay yeah well it should I just feel like I don't have enough inventory that's what I always feel well I mean I've been doing this for what six years now and I feel like that every Q4 yeah okay so at least it's so hard it's so it's so hard to predict proper levels and maintain proper cash flow right like try to do try to do it as best as we can like based on like last year's data how much things are ramping up so far cash flow we have available but it's still it's still very hard to

(00:36) predict exactly and I still always kind of weed on the side of caution because we never know when things are going to happen with Amazon with certain listings right yeah that's exactly it so and especially since what I went through I'm a little leery of everything but I don't know they say there there's a prime day in October coming too so it's just like go yeah and then we'll then we'll have your Black Friday and everything as well yeah it's just crazy it's like go go go but it's okay this is what we wait for right

(01:13) of course there's a lot of there's a lot of sellers that only basically sell in Q4 and they don't sell the rest of the year so some people are anticipated a lot more than others oh my gosh oh yeah I know that's crazy I know a couple people that do that a lot of people that are really heavy into toys as well well like some will stock stuff throughout the entire year but they almost sell almost nothing until basically Q4 hits that's that's incredible to be honest yeah that's incredible I I can't even imagine I

(01:44) would you know what if I could take uh nine months off and do that that' be great well as long as you're able to ramp up and do everything within a short period of time right yeah physically I don't think I don't think it's I'm capable of that not alone that's for sure yeah I think it's just like a lot of um a lot of uncertainty with that kind of model and um like you have to do a lot in a very short period of time and like in my opin in my opinion it's not good for like consistent growth uh you can you can definitely profit a good amount and be

(02:18) good for basically the entire year but you're not you're not consistent and then like the rest of the year I don't know like if I did nothing for an entire year I'd probably go crazy um yeah and also like I don't know like I think it's it's harder to get back into things properly if you've just been slothing around for so long it's hard when you're go for a vacation for a week to get back into stuff so I can't even imagine taking that amount of time off yeah but I do have a prep Center lined up if I feel that I can't I can't physically do

(02:49) it yeah which I might not be able to even just some of it you know I just don't or I'm going to I would rather pay my n or nephew to help me they even once a week I'd rather do that that's exactly how I started with in house help I started with hiring one of my nephews like my friend came over the other day she helped me for an hour and the amount of stuff we got done in an hour was incredible yep I go you don't you don't know how much I appreciate just this hour well and also like I don't know if you'll find it as well like um when I

(03:26) it's been a very very long time since I prepped myself but I found that when I was just prepping myself uh there were cases where it was a lot easier to get distracted so you weren't maybe always as productive and also like say if your average production per person per hour your as in production per hour is like say I don't know 50 60 units on average mixed prep um say like your average production is like 50 per person you'll probably find if you have two people and you work it kind of like a assembly line it'll probably increase a lot more than

(03:58) just an additional 50 per person it'll probably like an additional like 10 to 15% and you're sitting you're talking you're both working like it just it honestly it Mak it does just just that hour was so like I was able to rep three boxes and get them out yeah just with that little bit of help yep my boyfriend said he was going to give me an hour a night mm has happened yet he hasn't been helping no no yeah an hour I said I said I need help to like get like I don't I can't believe I got to where I'm at just by myself but

(04:38) if if I want to get further I I don't know if I can physically do it myself so I just need an hour but I haven't gotten it yeah yeah well it might just be worth it like you said finding somebody else like friends nieces nephews Etc yeah I think so I think it's wor I think it's even if it's a couple hours it's not even not even a lot to ask to be honest I've done enough for those children I say children but they're they're 17 and 19 now pay pay them well pay them well even though if you feel like they might owe you something still pay them I know

(05:13) I know it'll be a lot better in the long term oh I know how is how is everybody else doing we have a couple people popping in here how's the warehouse Abdu have you been able to produce any units out of it yet so long story I was out vacationing for a month then I came here signed the lease was setting up the warehouse haven't ordered any inventory so the warehouse is all set to receive inventory but there's no order in place yet so yeah there there's no there there's no what sorry so yeah I haven't placed any orders because I was out

(05:50) vacationing for a month and then I came back and was setting up the entire Warehouse so my inventory level are depleting and I don't have any a that have placed yet but yeah that's something I have to do tomorrow otherwise I I I'm gone because my inventary is less than like what 10K right now at Amazon and I'm getting s depressing right now oh yeah that happens that happens and you have you have an you have a nice empty space you got to utilize now yeah yeah yeah so yeah you yeah and I ordered zebra because of you yeah you

(06:21) kind of pushed me into it that's good that's good yeah so is is it just yours is it just yourself that's going to be prepping in there or do you have somebody working no no no so basically I I still kind of do like 80% of sourcing myself and all the purchasing everything so I have I have up like almost six hours a day 24 hours a week help that I've hired who would be kind of prepping all the units so yeah a week to train him and then I think he'll be good to go I uh I signed up for Scan Power so that makes things a lot easier

(06:53) to kind of label and then just put them in boxes and also I I I got lucky with with with the contact now I able to do ltls from Canada to us with formal entries like it's a one stop solution with pretty reasonable prices so that's that so that's something that I believe would help me a lot with inventory turnover because with 32 ones your inventory stuck at border for like months at at times so yeah so that that should help because I mean the margins are pretty good paying three five% of Duty on the cost shouldn't shouldn't

(07:25) affect itat a lot into margins of course and so I know you mentioned you've kind of been back and forth between uh kind of heavier in Canada and then heavier in the US are you are you focusing more to the US market now so yeah I mean for the last three four months I would say I have been kind of focusing entirely on the US market sourcing can that that starting it starting in the US it has been like pretty good because the margins our are pretty healthy there um but yeah I'm I'm kind of planning because uh I believe right now I need to

(07:56) do my workings but over top of my head I think I more money than I can spend on the American market right now so I am planning to import some items from the US to Canada and get back into that game as well okay excellent yeah I don't think a lot of people uh realize how profitable the the reverse can be like there's so many people that send stuff to the US but the reverse can also be extremely profitable and there's not a lot of people that are doing that yeah I'm I I started doing that like almost four years back when when it was unheard

(08:28) of like didn't used to have their like the the the friendly version shipy cross B pickups used to have a creppy website we used to import back then the margins were pretty good because there was like literally no competition like four or five years back but like I think Year back uh for me the margin started dropping a little too much so that's why I moved from Canada to us yeah yeah yeah I think it's just like with anything is probably going to be dependent on the products that you're finding and how hard they are to obtain right uh have

(08:59) yeah yeah have you tried importing at all recently with crossb pickups since they switched their website I mean I had to for one of the Tings um that I ordered from amazon.com the the the new website is is shitty as hell I mean it it's it it's just taking so much more time to to input a stuff I mean it's the same same thing that you we used to input but the new layout and the new designing and what whoever they have paid they just wasted their money I believe like it doesn't make sense I mean you you cannot consolidate packages

(09:33) anymore like I had three packages for the same order I can't consolidate them so I had to look up each package how much quantity it has and then kind of update it in the portal and then I mean it is just going back and forth over and over again I I don't like it I I I'm kind of so so this guy that that I met today uh they they they do both ways so they they have their own Fleet of trucks they they run from uh Miss Saga to miss and Ontario to to [ __ ] Falls and back so they they will also be able to help with the Imports and they they do and

(10:05) they kind of receive the packages put it on P WP it and drop it off to your location so they don't charge by weight or anything so that that would kind of give me a competitive Advantage because with with crossb pickups the the the prices when when your packages kind of exceeds like 2030 pounds it can be it can be pretty pretty much uh like all I I PID PA almost like $55 for products that were worth 200 USD because they were pretty heavy so yeah and like so I don't bring a ton over the border with crossb pickups but

(10:42) there was one that I did a shipment I think it was probably like a month and a half two months ago and it was a similar it was a very similar order to what I had placed before and I had found that it was a lot more expensive and then like before with crossb pickups as well um we like we never had to add documentation and I found that in at least the last that I did they required documentation like receipts and invoices oh okay so so for me did they kind of accepted my order I mean I I didn't submit the invoices I'm not sure if

(11:14) they're going to bring it over no not but yeah I was able to submit it successfully place an order for the items there was a field to upload invoices I just ignored it and kind of submitted da and went through yeah with myself I saw that but it required me to to uh to to input it and that was like one reason why I always utilize crossboard pickups because when I was bringing stuff over it was like many many different different SKS and I always places like shipsy you always had to like upload all the invoices and to

(11:41) me that was just a waste of time yeah yeah uh and and I'll be honest like uh I I I moved over from Crossroad pickups to shipsy almost like a year back for for for the minimal Imports I used to do uh the pricing on shipy I at least for me I found it to be 30% cheaper than crossb pickups uh not sure because I mean for you you have an extra strap of Milling it Milling of them mailling you out to your your city but for me because I pick it up myself so I I was able to save like 30 35% on the import cost because I mean yeah because

(12:18) their prices are pretty reasonable but yeah crossb pickups has been like really crazy with the prices and everything yeah and like i' I never previously I I didn't think that there fees were like super unreasonable but yeah the last shipment that I did I haven't compared it but it just seemed like it was quite a bit more expensive than prior shipments were yeah may maybe if you if you have small packages coming in try try shipy you you you could save a ton of money there yeah I probably definitely will for sure yeah yeah so

(12:48) how how's and Amazon has been crazy with me on on the Dot site one Monday they I mean my account has was good there were no customer claim complains or anything they emailed me out of the knew that some brands are being restricted I'll get it again and I go there and I find 80% of my inventry stranded because everything was gated I was like 80% of my inventory was H stranded because it was uh gated I so I was able to kind of retrieve a lot of inventory by Auto engaing and submitting invoices and everything but yeah the the the the

(13:26) the the product that I posted right now in the marketplace I mean I'm ungated for the brand but the listing is restricted I've been reaching out to them like what's going on because my voice of customer it's like excellent as per their standards there have been like I sold over like 800 units of that product I haven't receed I have received like two returns I was like what's going on and they were like we don't know uh the system has AED you I was like why we we can't share that information I was like okay good so yeah $7,000 are stuck

(13:58) somewhere California and I don't know what to do with that yeah um it definitely seems like right now they're doing one of their uh semiannual or sometimes even more sweeps of their catalog and just completely decimating everything um so from what I've seen like so far we haven't seen as much restrictions in Canada um we have we have definitely I've seen some things get restricted I've had some notifications of uh complete Brands being shut down uh most most recently like there were some major Beauty Brands that were shut down here but the ones

(14:32) that we've seen in the US like L'Oreal I don't believe have impacted here yet uh but I do fully expect them to be coming and I have stopped sourcing basically all brands that L'Oreal uh carries which is quite a large list uh and I did that about like sixish months ago when they started restricting them to begin with and they only start restricting them in the US but I have full expectations it's going to be coming here as well so yeah from what I've observed it's always us that's that goes first followed by

(15:03) Canada UK Germany and all the other marketplaces so yeah had same happen with Cen like it wased in us I recall all my inventory sold it here in Canada was 10 12 units at go here so yeah I was able to recoup some money but I mean honestly at this point you don't know like even in the in the states I don't want to get go deep into products because you never know how then this thing would end up 100% And it's a lot more complicated to get them back over the Border more costly right yeah yeah uh yeah I mean I've got a prep

(15:38) Center who would just Consolidated everything but I mean it's just like I mean the the velocity on eBay isn't good Walmart uh for me they are giving me a hard time to open up an account in in the US Marketplace um I've heard some good things about Walmart though uh it's it's it's doing like not not as good as Amazon but it's much better than eBay uh for the third party seller i' I met a couple of people at AMC United so yeah so I mean from from all the people I met like 80% started selling on Walmart because they they think their policies

(16:14) are pretty much seller friendly they would kind of give your heads up at least a month back a month uh before they plan to get a brand or something of that sort is happening um the the inter the interface is is is is very buggy but yeah this they they were they were of opinion that the the volume isn't as much as Amazon but it's still pretty decent yeah I've heard of quite a few especially us sellers doing very well with Walmart yeah yeah I've been going back and forth with them to let me open an account but they

(16:47) won't um I actually had somebody ask me earlier today and this is something that's been on my mind for quite a while to find somebody uh a liquidation a vetted liquidation contact in the US that we could have access to so that in the event things like this do happen uh we can have a contact in the US that would potentially take bulk inventory and pay you it probably be liquidation prices but at least you'd have a means to to liquidate that inventory yeah yeah makes complete sense and I met these guys um at M United they

(17:18) were they were they had their own booth I think it was AVX returns or something of that sort the their service was pretty good though pricey so what they would do is if you ever have like returns from the on.com so you could just send it over to their warehouse they would receive it inspect it uh depending on the condition and the marketplace they would either send it sell it on eBay or on Amazon using their own account and whatever proceeds they generate they would get 50% of your of that those proceeds to you yeah see something like that I think

(17:48) is is very nice but I'm always so cautious about services like that because Consignment can go sell so quickly because because like you have to really trust and build relationships for those people because you don't know if there's going to ghost you steal your inventory go bankrupt one day and if you even if you deal with them for multiple years I've heard horror stories in the sneaker industry people uh doing Consignments with shops local shops and all a sudden they go they go belly up and then they lose like 30 grand worth

(18:16) of inventory yeah but I mean for for for them it's it's just returns so I mean for most of us it's it's that pile so at least you would I mean if if you are able to it yourself that's great if not then probably I mean you getting at least something back 100% it's just a matter of finding somebody that you can you can trust and that has a a track record and that's why that's why somebody had asked me specifically if we could find somebody that we could vet yeah specifically for the server because I think that'd be a really good benefit

(18:48) to have yeah that would be great I mean I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of regretting my my order of a right now I mean no sense of dwelling on it I mean [ __ ] happens uh all we can do is just try to move past it right yeah yeah yeah I mean I'm I'm fine I'm worried but I mean it's still hurts like it's seven Grand 100% I mean like the light like the nice thing is you still technically have the the inventory it's still tangible even though it's in California so you should hopefully be able to get some value back but it's just a matter of being able to

(19:22) find that value um yeah yeah yeah I see Ali is in here Ali if you're on the Mike if you're around do you happen to know any good liquidation contacts in the US if Al is here maybe maybe not oh he's type in you guys were talking briefly about uh import export stuff which s and all those folks I know like was it Canadian customers like implementing the new portal right the kma portal the cmaa portal where basically you have to register whatever as a broker of import and then you pay your duties directly to the government versus to to I don't know

(20:05) if you guys have registered on through that process so I haven't utilized shipy myself but I I did the same thing like a long long time ago crossboard pickups as far as I'm aware and as far as I've talked to with my accountant again it could be wrong but when you're importing and you have an actual commercial account where like they're assigned as your broker uh you would be like exempt for duties that are within C that were manufactured within kusma countries so Canada us and Mexico uh you still have to pay duties I know with myself at

(20:39) least with crossb pickups we still have to pay duties on products that are manufactured outside of kusma uh but I don't think it's quite as high as with a regular personal account yeah but now I think I don't know if they're making you I've heard like the the C they're introducing the CRM portal like the Kum Cent portal I don't know if if any of you have gone through that process I kind of registered my importer number with them it's like with the cbsa and all that fun stuff it was supposed to be launched in

(21:07) May but then they pushed it off to I think October November oh no I I saw that email but I I I read it and I completely forgot about it okay okay so yeah little bit of insight on that so I had to register one of my other incorporations for a important number now like like most of like for when I registered my business or I'm pretty sure like everyone else when we registered we had to get our important number from C right now cbsa is assuring important number so instead of kind of uh CRA giving all that information to

(21:39) cbsa now they're requiring you to go into a portal provide the same set of information and then they would give you an authorization number that you can share with your broker who would continue to import uh on your behalf it is the process Remains the Same as this Shi information shift from CRA to cbsa I think if I'm not mistaken the once you register on the portal you pay your duties like your 5% directly on the portal I don't know if ship she now still will have to collect that on your behalf and then REM it to them I mean uh

(22:11) you always have that option but like when you're using a customs broker so they always give you an option to remit duties on your way off and then they would upcharge you three% or 5 person whatever your with you have with them in your agreement um as a fee so crossb used to do that like they used to charge like three to 5% on top of the duties and taxes they were paying to government on your behalf so uh I'm not sure if crossb pickup or Shifty would facilitate there because of the share volum volume that they have but yeah with with

(22:40) Brokers you always have that option you can directly kind of register with cbsa and pay them directly and just Avo the disbursement fee that they would charge you or you can just use them and make let them pay on your behalf and then pay them three or four person whatever they want to charge you for disbursement so the system uh like this system has always been on the on the when you're importing into the United States um but for Canada I believe the system used to be there but it was not that well marketed so now they are making things

(23:08) more clear and giving you access to a portal and everything um but yeah the process other than that it stays the same I believe so it seems like they're just wanting to basically the government is just wanting to keep tabs on uh duties a little bit tighter like the process doesn't really change a whole lot though yeah so oh one more interesting development I was I was talking to my customs broker today and he was at this conference where uh I mean this was some Custom Custom broker conference something uh so he tells me that there

(23:43) are a lot of cbsa Representatives here um as well as the um what is that IRS or whoever deals with the custom Imports in in these states so they have put in the legislation uh the US side to completely eliminate 3 to1 to completely eliminate 3:1 yeah the section 3 to1 under which we are exempt like the under $800 export to the us is under duty free and tax free uh so that's Section 3 to1 of the Customs act so they have put in the legislation to kind of completely eliminate that whole section because they are losing a lot of money uh

(24:26) because of that and so is there any indication that that's going to pass uh so as for my custom Brokers he said that they are going to have a really hard time to kind of convince the government to eliminate it but now right now what they are doing is they are kind of fine coming like everything that's coming into the states and the 3 to1 so they would they they have they like as for him because his facility is um I'm not sure of the technical ter that he was using but a customs clearance facility where the if the Customs don't have the

(24:59) uh capacity to hold a truck load they would kind of pass it on to him and where he would store the items and then the Customs officer would come in and check the items and everything so he said that the load of that has increased by many many folds over the last couple of weeks because they are just stopping like 50% of trucks coming into the us right now and kind of checking everything that's coming in uh they have started to uh start they are starting to crack down on the um um not the IP but the distribution agreements in place so

(25:30) basically anything that has French labeling so they know it's it's was deemed to be distributed in Canada so when it when they when they find something with French labeling they would call the company and say hey this guy is importing this into the states is he authorized distributor obviously company doesn't know me they would say no so they would just cancel the shipment and send it back to Canada interesting how could they do that yeah I it doesn't make sense like I legally acquired a product you can stop me from selling it but yeah

(26:05) import importing it into the US is a whole other Story oie You're unmuted were you wanting to say something all right um I just stepped out of the house but I say for Section 321 so from what I've heard they it'll be really hard to get rid of the program but they're going to try to miniz the loopholes which is basically what every like stallion Express and everyone's using uh because you're not supposed to be able to like spam boxes going to different places in one load and stallion got fined I think 10 grand DBP got in a bunch of trouble

(26:43) as well um recently and they they ended up changing a bunch of the way that they're like they they basically cracked down like we we got hit with so many accounts getting cracked down on um on the pricing on the way that they're processing the boxes and and like the way that they're declaring it now they require asens and it's because they started getting fined so they started they they did start I think in last in the last two months they started cracking down on it a lot I think in June is when they tried to make some

(27:11) legislative thing going but I don't know if it's going to work but they are I think going to close the loophole so if they if they start closing that loophole of boxes it's going to be it's going to be pretty big of an effect for people that are shipping um you know with Stallion and cross B cuz you always you essentially can't have the identification on like this is box 105 on the UPS label because then they'll they'll be where's the other boxes yeah interesting so then oh sorry go ahead oh yeah no no and one more thing

(27:46) like if you if you if you kind of go into the F details of Section 3 to1 so it only allows you to kind of ship items that have been sold to a customer in us but technically the products that we are selling sending to Amazon haven't been sold yet they they are kind of inventory that it's kind of an inventory transfer and section 321 doesn't deal with inventory transfer so that's also a loophole that they will try to close as per again my my my entire sources is like a sun broker I don't know how how much he knew

(28:16) or not or he was just making things up but yeah it made sense to me like if if it is that way and obviously it's easy for them to just stop processing Amazon boxes yeah and I think even like even the shipping multiple boxes for like one Amazon FBA shipment it's not even technically a loophole because it just it says that you're not supposed to ship you're not supposed to use it to ship multiple boxes but they just don't check it the way that they I guess should which is what the the major issue is coming down on but what a lot of people

(28:47) I think another reason that they're looking into it is that uh they have people importing tons of inventory to Canada and just 32 wiing it for their D Toc orders because they don't have to pay the 25% Trump tariffs so in the beginning it was okay and now so many people started doing that that all the major inventor is just getting imported into Canada and they're just fulfilling their orders from here yeah yeah it Mak some cheap say I mean um and and honestly like you everyone every country has been facing recession then they need more money and

(29:22) what's the easier way to kind of enforce more security controls on your border and get people to pay duties because that's that would that would account for a huge component of their import bill or I would say Revenue because I mean let's be honest like a lot of people based out of out of based not out of United States are selling in amazon.

(29:45) com and and they are making a living out of it so they start to crack down on it and that that's easy money for them it's pretty much easy getable so with that I know know like with the ca to us side that's something I'm basically almost completely unfamiliar with uh because I don't do it myself but I know all you've discussed this in the past before about people trying to go deeper into those loopholes and trying to use like multiple different companies to ship boxes cross border do you know anything about if they're going to be able to keep track

(30:19) of that properly with the loopholes that they're trying to close so if they start like it's actually it's extremely simple for them to know if you're doing multiple if you look up a UPS tracking ID it'll just show you more boxes in that tracking so if anyone wanted to check it's not too difficult they just don't do it especially in the volume because they're just loading in these truck loads of 321 shipments and then what happened with sallan for example like uh sorry I didn't catch catch your name but what uh

(30:47) they they pulled it over um uh to the the the warehouses and then they' have an inspector come in and they would I think what they got hit with was the values being wrong uh because like for example we used to be able to use keep's a like lowest average 30-day value uh to to declare on the boxes so if it was inflated right now we would be okay but if it changed if we gave stallion a box and the week like a week goes by and that's when it actually crosses the border the price would have changed by then and they started cracking down on

(31:18) that because they would have physical people go on Amazon search up the product and see a different price and now we have to kind of pad the pricing so that it doesn't so that there's some there's some breathing room for by the time it ships so they basically just started getting stricter and stricter by by following the rules that it was supposed to be and using multiple accounts like I've advised against that but I know some people will do it anyways and if you're doing different shipments on there like you can get away

(31:47) with it until you get in trouble like stallion will start charging if they get in trouble by cbsa they instantly hit you with a $300 fine and it's like the customs I've been trying to understand customs more and more myself um I've had meetings with some Brokers trying to understand the informal entries which we do as well but a lot of it is literally up to the the agent who's looking at your stuff if they're having a good day so much stuff will go through that maybe it's not even supposed to and then you'll think that it's fine so you'll

(32:18) keep doing it and then one day all of a sudden it won't go it won't go your way and then it's a problem it's a really messy kind of like situation to navigate but I guess most people are just doing it as long as they can until it's completely sto yeah and one more thing like I've heard this story uh from again for first information that uh the guy who was selling a Nike shoe or was kind of sell selling across the border um the buy box price was around 120 130 USD he had like four or five pairs so 600 USD approximately but the the officer

(32:52) decided to use the highest value on the offers tab available that was around like 280 or something thing and just projected the entire box that it's over the $800 threshold so yeah it it obviously depends on on the on the S that you are getting and how lucky are you to get who yeah so it and even even just the location that they're looking at it from so most of the times if we're crossing over Niagara Falls New York um and that's that's what we have uh like we'll have staff do a manual check for some of them especially the more expensive stuff

(33:24) just to check their current buy box price and the the ZIP code we're using is the same zip code of Buffalo where it's coming from so that they don't see a random buy box but if you're using for whatever reason they have a different address on their Amazon account when they're looking it up or if they just put one in for fun uh whenever they're doing their research on it if it's a different zip code it could be a different uh fulfillment center with a different offer different price or something went out of stock and they

(33:47) don't have ke they're not going to look at like the last 30 days or anything they're just going to take whatever they see and it gets tricky when there's like a suppressed buy box and stuff because then they'll just look at someone's random off and start using that and then it messes up the entire shipment it'll be interesting to see how how or if that'll change because like those are things that need to be taken into consideration but we know that they're not going to and like who's to say the end of the end inventory is

(34:16) going to end up being sold on Amazon anyway like people can send things to fulfillment centers in Amazon and sell them on other marketplaces right yeah so one of the thing like the one of the major things about 321 is that they don't have to declare um a bunch of documentation about it but if you just said that you were selling it to let's say Amazon 1p and you're trying to send it there because Amazon purchased that inventory from you it's technically going roughly to the same place to a fulfillment center so there's a lot of

(34:48) like a lot of I guess that is Loop holing but um it it really just depends on whoever wants to deal with it that day that's that's the part that you know to this date I'm trying to figure out if there's some sort of solid method because I spoke with a customs broker for example and I was I was looking into Stallion and the way they operate because I know they use freightcom as their carrier and they they were you know they've been doing this for some time and I think their main company is a big D toy brand so they were basically

(35:15) tell the custom broker was telling me that stallion technically they can't even operate the way they are but they but they are so I just couldn't understand put my head around it they have some something going on there I'm not sure yes for for sing have I faced a unique situation so a couple of boxes that were valued at exact $800 a day a box they were going to the same fulfillment center ab1 and St was able to get them across the border on the same day I was I was just kind of going crazy what just happened there I mean it was supposed to

(35:50) take at least two days s was able to get it across uh on the same day I'm not sure how they did it it was an error or something but yeah it happened and it was just um I don't know yeah I'm like 90% sure that someone messed up and because they don't always catch the mistakes it's only when they get pulled over and someone checks something it goes through so like that that's that's one of the things I saying if if you have something that we had a client come like he was a he was a client before he came back uh because he

(36:20) wanted to I don't know CBP stopped shipping a bunch of stuff and we can ship food to the states so he gave us some medicine he wanted test it out and we tested it out and it went through with no issue with stallion now I told him you know if CBP had an issue with it like crossb pickups had an issue with it I I can't guarantee the stallion if I if I email stallion they're probably gonna say that we can't ship it but if I just ship it with stallion they did it so as long as that works for you you can do it I'm not going to say no but but just be

(36:48) aware that it seems to be whenever someone wants to detect something is when you're going to you know you don't want to buy 5,000 units and then that's that's always going to be the time that something happens when you start buying like B inventory just I mean Stellan like now we on the topic of Stellan messing up so I was um able to send like 12 boxes each with like maybe 100 toothpaste through stallion to the US without FDA notice I believe you need a FDA prior notice for for anything that's consumable right and

(37:18) toothpaste are consumable so and and and I show wrote the A and the description everything and it just went through yeah I think I know uh what you're referring to we've we've been shipping toothpaste um in bulk for a couple months now and yeah we do get FDA for it but there's uh the person who's looking at the shipment I don't know whoever's whoever's sitting there looking at it if they don't catch especially with like mouthwash toothpaste the things that are a little bit confusing um or like ointments and stuff some people think

(37:55) it's something that you uh ingest they they start getting a little bit like they'll slip under the radar or sometimes they'll ask you for a pee like we thought we needed prior notice for mouthwash which apparently we don't um but you need it for toothpaste so it's a little confusing so the person sitting a stallion that's going through the shipments they didn't detect it and they let it do but then it's sorry sorry sorry about that so yeah Sting's also I think pretty much downsizing because uh has anyone visited the new office it's it's like

(38:25) half size of what it used to be I'm not sure if it's the business or I don't know what happened but they they have significantly downsized their their missa office I mean I noticed they closed their North York branch and now like they only have one I think in pretty much Mar and think M Saga they used to have one in N yor likeing down yeah notor used to be the head office I think but yeah I mean Baga like the the old the old unit that they had was like a pretty huge unit but now the one because I had some shipments to pick

(39:00) from them there some returns coming in from the US so when there I was like shocked I was because I was expecting that if they're moving they they would probably have a bigger space but but it was probably one3 or maybe at best half of the size of the place that he used to have in this Saga yeah I actually know there's a stallion Branch up in vaugh like it's a 5minute drive from the old North York branch or out say 10 it's by Highway 7 and Jane so if you guys didn't know just want to share that oh okay yeah I mean yeah because

(39:35) I'm I'm I'm based in Burlington so Mr Saga is the closest one to me but um um yeah but I've been been importing anyways from them and for export I just uh asked them to pick it up from my uh place so Ali I know you guys primarily or at one point uh you mentioned that you use stalling quite a quite a lot to export to the US especially for items like you had a special agreement with them for like a lot of groceries and stuff have you been having any more issues with those as of late at all no we've been uh we've been doing

(40:17) actually like flawlessly with the food and even like those ointment related stuff that uh I guess I we tried to work with CBP once in the past it didn't really work out and we've had a lot of customers in the past probably four months that have come to us saying like hey CBP stop shipping whatever they're shipping or they're they said they I don't know some guys said they stopped doing FBA some guy said that they they brought back a bunch of shipments for them whatever the case was so they came to us and you know we tried doing with

(40:45) Stallion and I don't know if it's because we just like every day we're giving them five six kids and they're just they just keep processing and all it's very clean it's very integrated and with the food stuff you know we we haven't had any issues now we're we're pretty much shipping basic um for the most part it's basic like uh confectionary so it's not a big deal once you have prior notices on them but we haven't had any issues recently it's it's been surprisingly smooth well we had a little hiccup when they had that

(41:14) big um they had that fine that they got hit with so systems changed a bit they got a little stricter on the pricing but once we got past that it's been uh pretty smooth compared to what I've heard about CBP and other stuff how sorry Abdul I just wanted to ask how about like overthe counter medications like Advil stuff like that yeah no problem haven't have had no problems which is people ask me that specifically and the most I can do is I'll look into our you know our history and see if we've done any OTC and I do see them

(41:45) going out you know quite regularly like you know we Shi Buckley so much so much Buckley out um you know there's uh there's been Advils there's been there's been a lot of OTC stuff I see so it hasn't really been in problem yeah Buckley from from what I know through running red uh in Manitoba it's specifically uh like by name ban by the border agents so yeah s is bringing that Ro that's great and also with the crossb the thing is that they once they got hit with the fine they got like very very cautious so I was the toothpaste that I

(42:20) was telling you about I was trying to send it across and I I I kind of preferred using crossb pickups and they just outrightly said that we cannot take toothpast across the border it's illegal I was like what are you telling me how can it be illegal I called they were like it's fine just uh put up the information on the boxes and we will just take it across the border so yeah with crossb pickups they are just being very cautious since the time they have been hit with the fine and yeah like I've heard I've also

(42:52) heard recently with crossb pickups because I know you mentioned oi that people were having problem like FBA with CBP um I've heard as of late like they're not accepting boxes being delivered to them from Amazon they're not accepting boxes being delivered like to the from here to the US to to them to bring into Canada oh okay oh I see I mean I I I guess I got lucky then my last shipment that I was talking to you about in the sub call it was from amazon.

(43:29) com so they accepted and processed it and kind of in it's in in transit to the to Canada well yeah and like I never had issues prior because I I've had I have bought a lot of stuff from amazon.com to bring back into Canada I've never had issues with crossb pickups but I've heard a couple people me mention that they've been Turning Away FBA boxes um yeah I mean they're just being very cautious and starting their business I'll be honest like um the this PR Center ebn flow in London Ontario they used to exclusively work with crossb pickups now now they have started

(44:00) opening up accounts with Stallion and kind of now they are F more focused on stallion because crossb Pico is making things hard for no reason yeah let me there's a there's a reason we sto working with them and they were our first choice in the beginning because they would take prior notice when we're doing food and uh yeah they're I not going to test they're not that easy to work with and they don't have a lot of inspiration on their Tech side um which is what we really like to have but even despite that you know

(44:30) trying to get a pickup from them or even just trying to drop off a box and it it's just it was uh if you compare to stallion it's like night and day so we just luckily we worked out the deal with stallion so it was fine but I really don't know what we would have done if we have to work with them only I mean I tried reaching out to crossb for for vek pickups I was like I have like 4050 boxes every week you guys can pick up and then process it over the week they were like no we need at least three skits to be pi picked up from a

(44:57) residential customer I was like like who in their right mind would would have free SKS ready in their homes for you guys to pick [Music] up so like if for anybody I don't know if they do any exports from Canada to the US but you know that they do a lot from US and Canada they are um kind of more known in the sneaker World um it's a place called dispatch AO AO uh I'm not familiar with them but I'm going to be exploring them because I've been recommended them by a couple people like all the sneaker heads in our server and

(45:34) so I think that might be another viable option for importing into Canada but I'm not sure about exporting yeah I me yeah there was there was one thing like I wanted to do it and I still do but I just can't find the time to to to set up the operation shipsy has a because they basically have whatever relation stallion has the same companies too with the with the way that they transfer things in and out and stallion's a huge like you know DVC import and exporter so their importing ability and the ease of use that they

(46:12) have for like uploading the invoices and just declaring them and bringing them across I wanted to use that rather than come up with our like our own complete system just use the shipsy skid pricing and have people send items over like it could just be for our clients for example they'd send items over to a close by Warehouse in Buffalo where we would just consolidate them on skids and then give them over to shipsy and then they bring it to our prep Center and we just ship it from there and the cost of like consolidation would be so much

(46:42) cheaper than having like one box here and there you don't know how Amazon's going to ship your OA items it'll be like two in a box and you got to pay five six dollars for it but essentially if anyone wants to try that that's uh that's something I definitely want to look at into in the future to make porting a lot easier a lot of people have asked about that actually yeah you know what I reach out to me in private um I have got I have a guy in like he he is a logistics guy and he has warehouses in Miss Saga as well

(47:15) as um um in [ __ ] Falls us so I think he might be able to help you with that uh reach out to me I can show his contact and then you can take it from there yeah for sure but yeah Ollie I know you mentioned in the chat about the the Liquidation in the US you mentioned that you don't have any good contacts uh for anybody that's in here and yourself included um if you do ever come across somebody that could be viable definitely not looking for any kind of sketchy person but that could be viable definitely let me know because I

(47:49) think that could be a really good resource for a lot of people uh we do have some options in Canada but it seems like a lot of the options in Canada they want a lot of real bulk and that's not always possible unfortunately with the units that we have when we get restricted sometimes we'll have a couple hundred units but sometimes it's you know 12 24 on Z's two Z's and it'd be nice to have somebody that would be willing to take all [Music] that for for Canada for Canada we have um we have one location for auctions

(48:25) that's not auction although auction is good too Melissa there's good but there's a location where we can do Consignment and they take they take mixed loads small Goods like so if we have clients that they have some returns that they don't have to do with uh every couple weeks we'll throw them on a skid and we'll get the skid over to them and then uh if they sell we'll get you know the E transfer with a report every couple weeks and if they don't I guess for now they've just been holding it um but that's like low even low quantity

(48:51) they've taken he hasn't really so far he hasn't really given me any sort of restriction on quantity or type of product I think as long as it's not like something completely just damaged into Oblivion that you can't resell uh they're fine with it but for the us we tried the same I think the next step would be trying to reach out to more local clearance warehouses because any major company is offering you like five cents on the dollar it's like 10 cents is good to them uh so it's it's just not worth it especially if we're trying to

(49:23) offer it as a service or even just tell someone about it like if your product is perfectly fine it's not even expired or anything and they're giving you you know $2 for a 50 $60 product it's you don't want to look at it you'd rather just throw it I mean like that's what I think the Amazon removal Fe would be higher than the uh Revenue you're getting um Dan Danny I know you're in here so if you ever talk to any of the contacts that you have if they're if there's anybody that's us based certainly let me know uh yeah honestly base like in

(49:57) liquidation if you guys can get 10 cents on the dollar that's considered highend like I'm just being honest from what I've seen in US Canada markets um that's around what it is a lot of liquidation warehouses like you guys said do Consignment so Consignment could be a viable option but like I said they're going to take their cut it will probably be a little bit higher than the um what's it called than the 10-cent route but obviously you'll have to wait a couple weeks for it to sell uh but yeah like I was saying uh nothing in us for

(50:29) me I I don't really deal with us market for sure I'll leave with the consignment uh agreement or thing that you had going on what kind of terms do you have set up with that right now we don't have uh we're still in a trial period so uh I haven't done it for like active clients that are trying to liquidate but for the clients that we've had in the past that just leave inventory or you know we do a reconcile and they just say you just dispose of it get rid of it whatever the case is or maybe they're done with Amazon those we've been putting on skids

(51:05) um and we've only done I think two or three skids so far some products I haven't even looked at their recent report they sell pretty slow um and I don't I haven't like gone into the numbers yet but based on what I've seen they're getting like individual how do I say this they're getting individual auction prices like people are buying items at a time not the whole loads so their pricing that we're getting seems to be a lot higher than if you were to sell you know a bulk lot to someone um but again most of this

(51:38) inventory is just like random garbage items that are still in the warehouse so we haven't really put too much thought into it we're just trying to see how consistent they are with the actual sales and then if it's something that ends up being consistent enough we're going to probably offer it as a service to clients to have excess inventory but it's still not yeah doing something like that I think would be very interesting and I'd like to know like when you do sort it out what your kind of terms are going to

(52:05) be and like what kind of percentages uh because doing Consignment I would assume a lot of places especially if they're getting higher dollar value they can probably offer a much higher commission yeah honestly anything like 50/50 would be amazing I think that's what we like what we informally spoke about um when they approached me uh because we didn't reach out to them they reach out to us um so I'm assuming it's 50-50 right now but 5050 for a consignment is not bad in my eyes for a dead inventory if you're liquidating

(52:41) amazing inventory then you'll get a higher sale value because he's selling the auctions individually um but they are they are taking care of storage which is a big issue at least for us so in that in that in that sense I kind of see it like okay yeah why not 5050 is pretty good better than any liquidation I'm gonna get so for sure I know you had mentioned at one point and I don't know if it's this but like it was quite a while ago you're like talking about some type of liquidation program that you're doing directly with customers is that

(53:10) what this was I know like that was mentioned like many many months ago that uh so we had one where we were working with auction Max um but what they ended up doing was needed a um a commitment on inventory volume so we we are able we were able to like oneof give inventory for some clients to to them but for the commitment that they wanted for Consignment because they don't buy up front if it's a lot of Bolt their but their Consignment commitment was too much so then around the same time is when this person approached me so we had

(53:48) Max going but then I wanted to throw this uh the consignment liquidation into the mix but we're still testing it out and since that point I think we've only sent over two pallets I probably have six to seven skids sitting in the warehouse of just items that are they're not even they're not garbage but we just haven't gone through them because we don't have the time but yeah it sounds like you might need to uh reach out to Danny and he can come sort out your issues before you dude I have I have a guy that's supposed to come tomorrow

(54:27) literally hiring him cuz I'm I'm leaving next week for a bit and his job was just to uh grade the items like figure go through all the items we have find out you know what's going on with them grade them see what's actually worth putting on liquidation that's his whole job and I'm I mean it's a role I went to the uh AMZ United so I spoke with some of my friends there and they were he was telling me to change this business getting someone especially when you're at scale if you get someone dedicated to dead inventory it's so much cash flow

(54:58) that's just sitting there like I know for a fact there's a $4 or $5,000 coffee machine in one of these skids that's been there for like three months and I don't know why no one has touched it I mean I know why we're in busy and we're lazy but I know that it's there and I need someone dedicated to just go through that stuff and the grading process is hard um especially when it comes to Goods that aren't like like electronics are pretty easy but when you get to coffee makers and other stuff it's it gets a little more difficult to

(55:25) grade they need to make sure they're not missing any pieces banged up used all that [ __ ] yeah man reverse reverse Logistics is a huge huge business like I was talking with um a relative's uh father and he had he he had um one of the biggest refurbishing uh businesses in Canada and his and he was the one telling me that even they don't do it but now they're getting into it because especially when you deal with electronics or even other stuff um if you can get contracts for reverse Logistics it's like PE they'll give it

(56:00) to you almost for free and the better that you are the more efficient you are dealing with it the more money you're going to make right yeah so I can just imagine what the margins are in a business like that uh Ron had asked I'm not sure if you saw the chat there he had asked if the company has a prep Center in the US where you supped to specifically asking if Ali has rep Center in the US tyon or somebody else hey hey everyone I was just asking if he has like a prenter why heile prenter in the US no unfortunately I don't man we have

(56:47) um I know a really good one out in LA but I don't think they're taking clients right now but yeah right now we're only uh Canada based okay any plans on expansion in the near future oh man my hands are full I can't even imagine I've been trying to catch a it's just every single day I have to go for like a couple weeks now and go visit my wife's family and I've been setting up everything so that we can you know operate well and stuff because we expanded we got bunch of more storage and then there's the Q for and things

(57:26) are so much better than they were before but still it's just it's a good problem to have but there's just constant constant new stuff coming in or new not even problems but just dealing with the flow of of different clients and their inventory and their requirements and you know it's it's it's a lot of work 100% sorry just a quick question if I can but in uh Ali you said like you kind of grew so on so forth um if you want uh if you could share obviously not the proprietary stuff for your business but the general systems of how you go from

(58:01) as a prep Center like receiving inventory processing it like how do you track all the clients different uh different inventory so on so forth and all the logistics behind like sending it out you know yeah so it's um I try to keep it as uh dumb as possible in terms of what staff needs to do so if we have we we have like mobile apps made and uh a software internal as well as the like uh like license software that we use for the for the prep centers so when something comes in if it's a box we scan it in and that automatically lets us

(58:39) know uh you know what time who scann it in where did they scan it in what time was it scanned in um and then if it's a manual entry or it's a pallet they put that on the phone it goes in and then receiving we have internal tools I mean on ourn Tech helps a lot cuz we have internal tools made for uh inbounds and Box contents uh which makes it a lot more efficient like for example our Box contents uh when you're shipping out inventory to the us we will automatically populate you know as you're scanning them into the boxes we

(59:12) know how much the value is and then if we need to get stallion labels that comes integrated inside the UPS labels that Amazon provides because we just you know merge them in in the process um in terms of but a general overview so you'll will receive something it'll be put in the cage or a pallet and then the that's like when we receive the delivery then the inbounder uh or the receiving team they'll go through that throughout the day and they'll put it into they'll match the inventory with the in Mounds they'll

(59:44) mark them as received or let you know if there's any discrepancies and then after that it goes into just either shell or pallets and then whenever the client makes an outbound we'll pull it up on the Box contents it'll let us know the plans for Amazon it'll let us know where where the goods are they'll go pick them print out the F SK see the prep requirements fulfill them see the notes and then get the labels and put on the UPS or St SK for pickups well yeah honestly like for a business this size I think it would be

(1:00:13) more complicated but like you got it pretty like lean and simple you know yeah the trick what I mean not the trick but like getting I mean I give an overview but in those processes we add a lot of like robustness so that you know if something's overweight or something's uh not matching the quantity like like you'll know when a shipment is done you'll know when a skew is finished you can search SKS in the shipment you can sort by uh sort by the ones that need prep first or even even like shelving like when you we can create picking

(1:00:46) lists that tell you you know the best Direction it's not a huge warehouse but it tells you the best way to walk through the aisle so that you can pick everything where you're standing to minimize your steps so like for OA clients that'll help a lot and even our receiving is pretty streamlined off the invoice like those kind of things over time you just adjust sometimes you think Tech is the best like you want to make everything so automated and like Tech friendly and then you realize in in actuality that doesn't actually help

(1:01:15) with timings and then some things Tech has made the biggest uh impact and because we use a lot of internal tools for me Tech is the main thing because when we hire I don't want to hire I want to limit the amount of positions that are irreplaceable especially in like a pep so if I need to hire extra labor or someone else they can come in and do the work without having to be trained on you know every little thing that Amazon requires that's probably been one of the biggest uh changes that we've done before in the beginning whenever someone

(1:01:45) was hired they' basically be trained on like learning the in and out of everything how agency works now we don't need that anymore wow well yeah that that is really impressive with your guys' process like do you know on average how many units you're able to produce per hour per person across like mix prep I tried getting those uh like we have some dashboards for like units per day and stuff but there was a time where I tried allocating uh time counts to you know this type of bubble wrapping or that type of poly bagging and now we have the

(1:02:23) shrink machine I wanted to I wanted to kind of f figure out uh you know cost per prep type and stuff like that it didn't work out things are way especially when it's like uh so many unique type of clients uh it it's just too many too many variables to calculate so right now the only metrics I kind of go off of is not even the per day but the per week um uh like right now I think we're pushing I know per month it's somewhere around 35 to 4 5K units and we are I basically use those as as like a baseline as a metric because I checked

(1:03:05) the gross profit uh gross profit for prep versus the units being shipped out so what that does is essentially if I have a low amount of units this day I'll know that the gross profit for prep was higher for some reason most likely because there was a lot of bubble wrapping or bundling involved so for those I know it's okay but then if there's like a gross profit for prep and there's a low amount of units like what happened that day something went wrong something was a little bit maybe labor was short because I got to factor in how

(1:03:33) many people were working that day so it's like we go off of like the general metrics but I've tried to get very intricate with it I've tried to have like a nice nice like we have a labor cost per unit at the end of the month but I wish I could have something like per per bubble WRA foot how much is our labor cost or this and that it it at our scale it doesn't really work out so I kind of gave up on that but we just look at it as an overall okay so like do you know like across those 35 40K units like how many overall man hours it takes to

(1:04:01) produce those I'm just curious like logistic wise like if we're keeping up or not let me let me see if I can pull one up see because mine factors in uh full-time receivers right so we don't we don't charge for receiving it is buil into the cost but if I look at the hours I mean it is scoot on that end but let me see if I can pull something up for you [Music] I would imagine as well like are most of your clients wholesale because like I know you guys don't really cater for Arbitrage but you still do it right we do and recently uh we have a

(1:04:43) lot of Liquidation on wholesale clients um but we we do have a good chunk of OAS still and and liquidation clients like their stuff is very scoy because we can get some oversized like you'll do a 100 unit shipment and it'll take you as long as it would like it'll take you as long as a th unit shipment would but it's because you have to make a bunch of skids and there were liquidation things that needed to be you know located and block all the the barcodes and F skes they had on there and you know all that kind of stuff um has to be factored in

(1:05:17) so I have I have average units per thousand average hours per thousand units which a good rate for Us is around 24 um um which seems a little scooted but you have to factor in like six full-time staff so that's like 24 hours per thousand units okay give me one second and that's like full fully done that's fully received prepped and packed and that's obviously mixed prep then yeah man that's including that's including like a 30 minute lunch that's including the time it takes them to get ready in the morning like set up and

(1:05:54) stuff that includes s sometimes we need other people to come help like unload uh there's a bunch of pallets we need to make some space if we don't have it like it's an overall number if I just go off like someone standing there and prepping it's way different because that but that's that's not a number that you can use to like multiply out because it'll never add up of course um especially when you have like five six people in different roles because some people they're just straight prepping all day some people are picking a bunch some

(1:06:22) people are more like managerial with the shipments and going on the computer more or doing a discrepancy report this is including all that 25 hours per thousand units is good 29 I think last month we were at 29 and our labor cost is around 50 45 is great 50 cents Canadian per unit roughly 50 60 cents 60 cents kind of high but around 50 is good okay that's really good keep in mind though I do have like five figure rents for 4 foot place so it's that that has to be factored in too of course of course and yeah I mean it makes sense

(1:07:02) you have to factor in the entire process because all that involves producing those units so but yeah no that that's that's pretty good have you found your uh your packing or your seiling machines have made a larg difference with your process at all 100% man when we got the I want to buy a better one now but when we got the shrink machine I bought I bought a vertical one like an idiot I don't know why I got a vertical packing machine that's been sitting on a rack somewhere for like two years uh but I finally got

(1:07:37) that uh a nice horizontal sealing machine string machine I just got a bunch of rolls imported from China because they were crazy expensive at Uline even with a discount so those are running well it makes it's not even about the cost per like per poly bag foot or whatever it's more about the labor like fatigue of the efficiency of the worker that it makes it it honestly makes their job more bearable when they're processing something through a tunnel rather than sitting there and bagging it all day so as an overall it's

(1:08:12) made a huge improvement with multi packs and bundles yeah it's been amazing one of the best investments I think other than the El so fully away from poly bags and you're strictly using those that machine then 90 90% 95% probably okay yeah nice Beauty just out curiosity uh oh sorry Jordan were you about to say something nope no go ahead oh okay uh yeah for like a prep based business it's always kind of like because you told you just said your labor cost is around like 50 cents a unit right and I'm looking at your site like you're charging pretty

(1:08:48) good rates for a preps on before what would you say your like uh net margins are in that case cuz man I'm looking for a warehouse right now around like Bond area so on so forth and rent's expensive you're right so I'm just like seeing how rent is insane like to put it in perspective our last Warehouse we were paying I think I was paying like everything included I was up to three grand and it was a small place I think maybe under 2,000 square ft I don't know how we were operating out of that but we were uh three grand and then you go up

(1:09:23) from that to 4,000 ft yeah we have higher steings we have a dock door it's a business park but now the run's over 10 grand so it's it's a huge huge leap that they did and um what I what I would uh sorry one second I'm just walking outside of the car okay yeah sorry um what was I saying I got me off track sorry could you yeah no worries no worries I asked like what are your net margins and like uh including overhead and all all that stuff you know because rent so so we were scaling like I was we're pretty much making nothing uh when

(1:10:05) we moved to the new spot which was in around October of last year and then now we're operating a good month is around 30% um net which is after everything not including any owner draw uh but that is we we've been scaling quite consistently since January February time so it's it's like uh you know there's a lot of investment goes in like I have to buy racking where I want to import a bunch of bulk supplies uh you know so that we have a lower cost per unit to find a new bubble wrap supplier that halfs the cost you

(1:10:43) know stuff like that happens but overall you know 30 is a pretty healthy margin for a overhead based business um if I'm at 30 I'm happy basically but we were we were running really really thin when we first moved here pretty much like like the goal was to break even with two three months which luckily we did um but and we've had growth since then so that like thank God that's good but in the last place when your rent is like 3K we were bottleneck by the space so we couldn't really go higher than we were um but I

(1:11:16) think that was a little bit around that was a little better margin but we we just we're Capp too easily so if you're looking for a space I if you can if you can I'll give you like one piece of advice if you can avoid those narrow long warehouses uh it'll help you a lot in the long run at least for our business model um that's what we have right now so I'm telling you but yeah rent is crazy anyone in the GTA is crazy yeah like honestly even I was looking at like shared warehouses to on so forth it is insane like they're

(1:11:46) asking 2.5 square foot and it it's not a lot of space so I'm looking more towards like storage units so on so forth because um like my business we're we're doing good uh let's put it that way so um we're not I'm more liquidation yeah yeah go ahead if you if you can operate out of storage units do it for as long as you can in my opinion really it's it's like if you look at a diamond unit where they can take uh they can take your receiving for you um if you're not there or whatever the case is and then you can just give them UPS boxes for

(1:12:19) whenever UPS comes so you don't have to be there 24/7 or even if you just have one or two staff like a couple St I think with all the overhead costs that you have to deal with and the insurance and the this and the that it's just and like winter you got to like you know there's so many things it's like buying a house like you don't want to you don't want that if you can avoid it don't do it I like control over the the space so I didn't go for a shared Warehouse especially when I have a lot of staff and I'm doing certain things the way I

(1:12:45) wanted to especially if you're going to share a doct door be very careful um that's that that stuff gets kind of tricky if you don't have the right neighbors but um if you can do a storage unit and it's fine for your business you'll be you know that's like the best way to do it as a prep Center can't do it because that's no one wants to send prep to a storage unit but as a as your own business I would do that 100% as long as I could yeah for sure because like right now my my business is is doing good to the point because I'm

(1:13:14) still in school and I'm studying so on so forth but um like I recently put in my two weeks noes for for my part-time job so I'm basically doing business full-time on top of school so um yeah I I will see you thank you man I appreciate it I appreciate it but congratulations to you too you know like it's it's it's good to hear you're growing especially in these times like I know so many businesses in the GTA they're they're struggling like they're really suffering right now oh I just did I did a very irresponsible

(1:13:46) purchase yesterday that I'm G to see in a month so that doesn't now I feel bad when the economy is bad that's going to feel weird but um but when you're when you're especially if you're growing your business and you will think I mean this is my opinion again but you will think because of what you see everywhere online that you need a warehouse space and you really really don't unless like it's a specific supplier thing or something you got to deal with if it's working for your business just from like a storage unit because they're so

(1:14:16) flexible you don't want it this month you want a downsize you can downsize in like with like a like a week notice you know you can move your stuff around you can have the same stores on the same level um it's very flexible as long as you have a good storage you like that's why I said diamond is one that I know about that is very like they're a little bit more expensive but they have a very nice uh 247 facility it's indoors they have levels they have P Jacks they have everything for you to use and they have like a truck level dock for you to

(1:14:40) unload stuff out if you need to that is diamond diamond storage dy I don't know where you're base but you said you were looking around vau so they have the I think their primary location is vaugh all right yeah but they had uh like when we started off back in like 2019 when I was working with BRS had like 10 20 skids sitting in the prep Center and I'd go there and just label them in in in the storage unit and then if I had ups boxes I just give them to the guys downstairs and whenever UPS comes I schedule the pick up they just

(1:15:15) give it to the for me and uh it was it was I don't know if they still operating like that but all I know is it was a really good experience and if I didn't have to get a Ware house I I would not especially after having one um and scaling one it's it's it's overhead you don't want like your your heater braks I mean even if your freaking um sorry even if like your uh landlord covers certain things first of all you need to go landlord and then if the landlord like our AC unit went down in a new build and it took them three weeks in the middle

(1:15:47) of summer to fix it and and and I got workers in there right it's it's like what am I supposed to tell them and then I got to go buy 300 fan so that they can have a little bit of airflow you know there's a lot of stuff that you don't want to have um Everyone likes to have a bigger business or make it look like to other people you know that you have you're running out of off Warehouse whatever it is and it's nice to stand but if you if you don't need it don't get it like think really hard if you really really need it before

(1:16:12) you actually go and buy one yeah it's it's a lot it is it is I'm looking at that diamond one right now like d ym o n right yeah that's it I see one in Brown rampton honestly it's not too far I might go check it out but the one on Airport I think yeah Airport Road exactly that's the one I used to use yeah they're they're great from when I use them yeah it's like a drive-in Drive-In you park your car at the bottom and the wind here doesn't matter it's heated how much how much do you like okay years ago yeah so I think now they

(1:16:49) have bigger size units at the bottom they didn't used to have those but I think it was like 400 something per unit I was paying for their biggest size back then I think it was a 10 x 15 um but and then they have Outlets like not in the units but in the hallways so if I ever wanted like to print I would just bring a a little PR you can get a portable battery but IID just bring a printer at the time and just plug it in real quick and yeah it depends on how much time you spend in the in the unit I only used to

(1:17:15) get shipments out so it wasn't a big guilt but you go in there put some music on and just just chill in the in the unit work on your stuff and that's it because I'm looking right now like I I frequently go around the H what what area is it like Jane and Jane and langstaff area so I'm looking more around there but honestly that might be a good solution in the future because right now like I said I'm still in school so I'm doing this part-time it's not really a full-time thing yet and commuting so on so forth it's it's you

(1:17:47) know it takes it takes time for sure but yeah like that's that's really that's really cool to hear about your prep Center so on so forth like I I'm impressed thank you man yeah it's uh it's definitely uh so it's a lot of headache too like it's something that it's you know in the beginning I always thought you know why not make some money on prepping other people's Amazon items because like if I was already sending stuff in I might as well do that but then to make it into a real business and not just like hey we

(1:18:19) we ship our own stuff so we'll also add your stuff to make it into a primary business is it's been a lot of headache I never worked at a warehouse I didn't have any experience so I don't everything was kind of from scratch uh so that's why it does take time and there's like I bottlenecked our entire output for three months by taking on a client that I shouldn't have like two three years ago like it's those kind of mistakes that I think anyone's G to end up making whenever they go to a new Venture but as long as you learn from it

(1:18:45) you know luckily things are doing okay yeah fair enough um sh I I had a question on the tip of my tongue do you still do you still do Amazon or just do full-time prep no fulltime 100% prep now I thought that was on a long time ago and then we carried on uh one of the renewed Brands um so they were selling like we were shipping iPhones um it was more of like a profit share and then they went mainly USA now they did it themselves now they take over now they do it all themselves so we're pretty much 100% proud for sure for sure that's

(1:19:20) that's sweet well uh I'm going to dip now I might come back later might no but you said you had some liquidation stuff you need someone to go like you said you're having a guy go through so on so forth I did I was supposed to have a guy come tomorrow but he has not messaged me and I'm not going to follow up with him so if he doesn't message me t i that's still kind of not figured out yet yeah if he doesn't just uh shoot me a message on Discord like I I could help you out [Music] so like I don't know what his job was

(1:19:52) like to literally like as a as a warehouse jobs like come in and go through the inventory and grade everything and I don't know I don't know if you're like liquidation or or your talking about the work itself I'm more as a consignment service like I could consign it and sell it all for you okay okay yeah right now the problem is I need to figure out what exactly I have to sell and then I will I will uh yeah once I do that I'll reach out um yeah whichever Avenue that can be sold on is perfect yeah all right all

(1:20:27) right hopefully soon we'll see take have a good night guys but yeah like for anybody else that's in here as well um if you guys are ever looking at warehouses like you you'll notice that most people in here are vastly different to what you see on like Twitter and stuff uh none of us uh I've never seen anybody attempt to act fancy and spout a bunch of [ __ ] that they don't have or that doesn't make sense like I operate out of a small Warehouse I had for I don't know like 2 3 years now and that's why I'm been so

(1:21:01) reluctant to move out of it is because it's such a good deal we we definitely pack the [ __ ] of the space and sometimes it gets super super tight but the space that we have it's not fancy it's definitely not perfect it's not ideal but it allow our overhead low have a good night but yeah it allows us to keep our overheads so low um and we're able to we have been able to grow a lot quicker and invest so much more back into our business for doing that and you see people like uh Dan he has a warehouse but like I mean it's again nothing fancy

(1:21:42) he's operating out of like a converted quanite you see people like Fred he's still operating out of his garage so you definitely don't need to do anything crazy in order to start expanding your business I operated out of my condo which is on the fourth floor forever and then I moved into my parents house because it was just paying the ass for how much volume we're doing and from there into a small warehouse and I've been reluctant to move I we we kind of do need to move at this point but I've been so reluctant because it's such a

(1:22:10) good deal but yeah how was everybody else doing that was a good prep combo that we had was not expecting all lead to pop in here nobody else wants to talk today murza Evelyn Chris Nick how's it going well then Beauty I have a question I guess some of these direct retailers like they basically branded products which they don't sell in Canada necessarily some of them sh to Canadian addresses like to what level do you have to address jigs obviously I reached out to them they like cancel my order my sub and they're like oh yeah you know you

(1:22:55) considered a reseller blah blah blah terms of service all that fun stuff my next thing is okay how far do I have to go in terms of address jigging like are they looking at IP address are they looking at credit cards like ideally how is there you have a process to test out how far you need to go whether it's changing your address to changing cards to name like it's often trial and error I guess majority of these websites are there any tools out there which they're using which like I know a lot of these shops use shopy and Shopify for example is

(1:23:31) there any ways to work around that per se so that's really going to be dependent on the company and a lot of it comes down to how deep and how much they review their orders so typically speaking if it's a larger company unless you're talking about somewhere like Nike uh most of them don't tend to review stuff that deeply and that's why it's so easy to get around things with doing like the simple address chicking right like even companies like Mattel Supreme Etc they're super easy to get around because they just don't pay attention

(1:24:00) and they don't have those systems in place uh typically if you're dealing with like smaller brands or like like little boutiques stuff like that sometimes they are more prone to review that information and also a lot of Brands if you're doing larger volume they have immediate concerns that there is potential for fraud so they will almost always review those immediately uh and then if they feel like if they have terms against resellers then they will just automatically assume when you're doing volume that you're a

(1:24:34) reseller and some of them don't like money so they'll cancel your orders um in my opinion like if you're doing it for Amazon you're trying to like volume at a certain point you have to decide whether or not it's worth your time because chances are you can probably find other companies that are more willing to take your money that you don't have to struggle trying to spend money with um uh we've had a couple people recently that mentioned that they've had some big brands that have been consistently canceling on them uh I

(1:25:01) had that quite a bit in the past when I did OA like one of the biggest brands I like I sold was producing the vast majority of my Revenue when I was doing OA I was selling them for probably like a year year and a half it was a brand direct and then out of nowhere they just canceled and I was spending like 10 15 grand a month with them um and then just one day they just all a sudden started canceling my orders and would never give it back to me I tried multiple times but they just wouldn't and then at that point I was just like it's not worth my

(1:25:29) time to keep trying to fight this and Order multiple smaller orders to multiple addresses cards Etc so I just decided to move on from that brand yeah CU it's like the first order always seems to go through and then anything after that you're like hm and it's like they're available at you know your Walmart or your Target in us but nothing in Canada right so it's like okay I could go down the rad buying it from Target or whatever in the US but then you have to ship to a cross ber and all those added cost when right now I'm

(1:25:58) buying it directly from them and shipping them to my Canadian address duties shipping all included right so yeah I guess it comes out to margin at that point yeah 100% And of course it comes down to again if it's worth spending your time trying to work around those systems there there's so many more products that are available to buy and to sell like I would never recommend getting married to any individual product or brand like I think a lot of people do I tell a lot of people not to because things are going to happen

(1:26:30) shit's going to get restricted you're going to get denied from Brands eventually so never get married to something always be sourcing new and unique stuff Jordan um as a rule how would you recommend uh navigating purchasing limits imposed by retailers cuz it just seems in general at least in my in my experience anyway that um more and more retailers are uh becoming uh Draconian about uh larger orders as um or backtack orders so it all depends on the retailer like is there any specific ones that you have been having issues

(1:27:12) with no it's just something I've um I've noticed out in the community I mean I know for example um well has always been an issue with uh or just because they I mean they have a policy explicitly against resellers but I noticed lately I was doing some ordering with them um that on their website they used to have um maximum uh purchase quantities under each item um so you would know exactly how many units you were permitted to buy at any given time but it seems now or at least the last few times I've attempted

(1:27:43) to order from them um that those numbers have been removed so you actually don't know um how many you can order without risking cancellation so well in my opinion used to be harder to order order from they used to do like really hard councils on you and they had a really strict stance against resellers um as of late like probably like the last probably two three-ish years uh I believe they still have the terms on their website if I'm not mistaken but they've been a lot more open to bulk orders it just seems like

(1:28:19) um well if you're ordering large quantities if you ever have any ISS issues and you attempt to return them they will just not take the returns from you and they're like they're trying to change their terms indicting like if you're buying bulk if you're a reseller we will not accept returns which I mean is okay if you if you want volume and you're not concerned about returning stuff so like with well I haven't personally ordered from them as of late so I couldn't tell you if there's anything around it I'm sure that there's

(1:28:47) probably some people in here that have uh but all a lot of the other big box retailers like a lot of the drugs they've had stuff on they've had purchase limits on their inventory forever uh it's never been an issue to do backtack uh purchases same with Walmart um I think most of the big box retailers most of like the big big guys like your Walmarts your Canadian Tires Canadian Tires can be mixed bag and store Shoppers Drug Mart uh your well places like that I don't think they'll ever impose hard restrictions because

(1:29:19) they're in the business of making money and a lot of those companies if you actually go in store uh they will also do tax exemption specifically for resellers so I think the the ones that we're going to have the most problems with are going to be more so smaller retailers Boutique shops and again I think a lot of those places have more concerns about fraud a lot of the brand directs I found they're the ones that have more restrictions when it comes to resellers and I I think they just have concerns about their brands being

(1:29:52) devalued so in the case of those uh shops or Brands as the case may be would you just recommend attempting to locate uh the products uh elsewhere and say larger stores or um if there's the option depending on the store to go actually go physically into the store and uh and and buy the products assuming you have that option yeah like if you're able to and still get like a really good price sometimes it's hard to compete like with Brands direct if they offer a lot of coupon codes because a lot of those Brands Direct do so a lot of those are

(1:30:25) hard to beat in the big box stores but yeah like if they're giving you trouble and you still want to sell that brand 100% or try to explore other options so there was a brand that I had looked at a long time ago uh for full disclosure it was do Squatch and so from what I seen from a long time ago uh they were doing pretty decent volume on Amazon uh in Canada and I had heard some people that they started having issues with their orders being canceled from them directly and it looked like they started taking over their listings in Canada they were

(1:30:58) selling a lot more in Canada uh I know that they have IP issues in the US but I never heard of them having any IP IP issues in Canada as of late but then when I checked um I probably checked I don't know like six six s months ago or so uh the wholesaler Purity Life actually started carrying Docker Squatch so period of life is known to have like really harsh restrictions when it comes to Amazon sellers um but it's all it's it's obvious that a lot of those products you can start to then find in other avenues like wholesalers and you

(1:31:30) might even be able to find better pricing so I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily disregard those Brands immediately if you can find it somewhere else or if you want to try to hunt them down um it just depends if it's worth your time or not that's all yeah and that's ultimately what I'm struggling with is finding something that's um like if efficient because I don't I with working a full-time job at least for now I don't have a tremendous amount of time so I'm looking for uh focusing on sources that would uh be

(1:32:04) less likely to lead to order cancellations um or that would have the products in store that I could purchase in store without um any kind of arbitrary limits that would um otherwise be um imposed online yeah and so then you again you'd probably be best to focus some of the bigger guys but then if you have like some smaller places like say if you source that like um 401 games was one that I had issues with a long time ago if you're sourcing some like games or some cards or something from 401 games and you place a large order they're

(1:32:35) probably going to cancel your order immediately and they may not even send you a message if that happens I would just send the company a quick email and just be like hey I Noti this happened with them in specific they had concerns about fraud when I placed my first initial large order with them so I don't remember what the terms were but I think I had to send them I had to talk to them on the phone and I think I had to send them a picture of my ID and that was just for the first order and then after that I never had issues with them again

(1:33:06) so some of those small shops if they are worth it if you're not just ordering you know some onesies twoes I would definitely just send him a quick email and chances are you can get by those restrictions most places they want to make money most places are eager to take your money even in bulk I find that there's there's definitely places that are against resellers but I don't find it's that widespread of an issue as of as of yet anyway okay so for some of them then the remedy might be just to to reach out to them and see um and uh communicate with

(1:33:43) them and uh they might uh reverse the cancellation in fact it's interesting you mentioned that some places U or some retailers um or brands won't necessarily even notify you that they've canceled your orders I had that experience actually with a um a big box for recently specifically Best Buy I had ordered um several items from Best Buy and um no email was sent to me but I didn't receive a shipping notification so uh I logged on to uh my account uh my buying account on Best Buy and only to see that the order had been

(1:34:19) cancelled that's interesting that they didn't send an email but it's usually the smaller places like you sometimes don't get a notification from uh Best Buy is one place like I've heard really mixed uh experiences with like sometimes there's people that are able to place a ton of orders with them absolutely no problems and there's people that go through spurts of orders being consistently cancelled I don't know with Best Buy if it's to do with uh resell specifically or if they just are not wanting to allocate that much stock to

(1:34:50) one person or they don't physically have that stock and they resulted yeah what I found with with Best Buy at least for the last few orders that I had placed is that if you actually go into the store you just don't have as many issues so I think it's just like anything else that's trial and error and what might work for somebody might not necessarily work for you so you have to determine on a retailer by retailer basis exactly how you would approach each of those retailers and just note your experience uh along the way so that um when you do

(1:35:22) order from those retail again assuming that you order from them um you know more than once that you know um exactly what approach you have to take or when one that was the most successful historically 100% And like also I know I've talked about this before a lot uh when I did a lot of RA I had found the best success trying to actually find a a manager in the store that was willing to work with me because I was always I kind of always treated ra more so kind of like wholesale I really wanted to do like a lot of bulk units uh I was never

(1:35:58) a fan of just like running around all day trying to find this here this there um so I had Source from a very select few places but I ended up getting a few decent relationships with people uh sales manager specifically who were willing to allocate more units to myself they had sales goals that they needed to meet and I was willing to help them meet those goals so I just approached them very professionally I just said I asked uh typically in the store if I could talk to the sales manager and then just told him who I am what I do and these

(1:36:32) are the types of things that I'm looking for I noce you guys I'm I'm always coming in here clearing out your shelves and you guys are having problems uh maintaining stock if you're interested I would be willing to order more directly with you uh so if you want to work something out let me know and there was a couple of people where I was just able to place orders directly through them so I could contact them there was one I was able to contact via text there was one that I contacted via email all I do is just send him the list of the stuff that

(1:36:58) I wanted and the pending on the store a couple days up to like a week or two and then I could just go in the back and pick it up and I was able to get bulk units way more units than I used to be able to get in the store directly one of those was with Walmart one of those was with Costco and like before with the Walmart I had to go to all three Walmarts in my city and I wouldn't even get enough units whereas with doing it this way I was able to get as many units as I wanted consistent Rec l so it's like the same approach that

(1:37:27) you took kind of with books but except with more retail products yeah and it was I definitely approached more people and I definitely had mixed um How would how would I word it mixed experiences with multiple people I had some that just were 100% not interested uh I had some that were just very non-communicative so it was very hard to get things done with them but out of the I probably talked to I want to say upwards of like maybe like a dozen different sales Managers from different stores out of those I had two

(1:38:03) very very strong relationships with for a very extended period of time and I was able to do a lot of business with them and it made my life a whole lot easier and it obviously helped them uh meet their goals as well as very mutually beneficial and you don't even necessarily have to do like massive volumes like when I first started it wasn't anything crazy um if they know that you're just wanting to order things more in bulk or just more than what they have a lot of sales managers out out there are willing to work with you as

(1:38:30) long as you take it seriously and you're not somebody that just says hey this is what I want to do and then you just never talk to them again so yeah how is everything been with everybody else how is everybody ramping up for Q4 is everyone experiencing some increases recently yeah I had some increases but it's uh I think it's less to do with Q4 and more to do with the fact that I um finally integrated a a repricer um into my account and um what I found through trial and error is for you know for some reason um what I would call whole number

(1:39:19) pricing seems to be seems to be working so rather than say looking at uh the keep a chart for a particular used book over the last 3 months or the last year depending on um the available data and selecting the the lowest uh used buy box price and then the highest as my men and Max prices um I would just round up or down to the nearest dollar and I seem to be selling more inventory that way yeah that's good have you also been sourcing more inventory as of late as well um yeah uh probably within the last month or so like in my um I haven't done

(1:40:01) as much within the last couple weeks but um about a month or six weeks prior to that I had been um my uh my County um while specifically the library system had um a library sale in two of its locations and uh of course we because we're so my my County's still relatively small although it is it is growing um there were hardly any other resellers if any besides me so I managed to pick up between the two locations about um 200 bucks overall and uh I just sent the last shipment in about a couple weeks um ago and they're they're selling really

(1:40:40) well ever I as I said ever since I integrated that repricer I went from selling maybe um you know three two or three books a week uh and sometimes I had weeks where I didn't sell any to which just within the last uh couple weeks this settlement period I've sold about 16 and I don't have that many books in my inventory maybe have about two 220 230 okay Beauty so I think like the standard when I was uh selling books is like you want to try to um I don't remember what the standard was I think it was per week you want to try and move

(1:41:16) through I think like 2% of your inventory per week I think that was ideal from what I recall and if you're doing that then that's very really healthy with used books and then so obviously then as you scale more and more books if you are able to maintain that sell through rate then obviously your sales will grow accordingly with that yeah I think I'm I think um because I enjoy book scanning I actually find it therapeutic I'm probably going to um retain that as a component of my business and now of course just start

(1:41:45) branching out into other business models like Retail Arbitrage online Arbitrage I've also had some success too with um uh finding collectible and discontinued items um at uh pharmacies and and thrift stores and resell reselling them on eBay I mean just recently for example I don't know if I told you about this but I found a a discontinued moisturizer from Neutrogena line in one of thees in my town and uh it retailed for I think I want to say me 12 or 13 bucks but I just sold it for $65 and yeah yeah so it was amazing and

(1:42:24) I also found um it's a a small tub by the brand sasin which um is uh a product line for um people with psoriasis um subaric dermatitis and other skin skin conditions they make um a colar ointment that they've just discontinued and I picked that up I think for maybe I think it was like 14 or 15 bucks and I just sold one tub about a month or so ago for about $45 so there's a lot of promise in it and um on YouTube I've been following this uh reseller in the states who um as a part of her business has discontinued

(1:43:02) products and she has a a patreon you only pay like five bucks a month for it and um you have the opportunity to to send messages to her and ask her for um advice and she's given me some really good tips on finding discontinued stuff I mean she specializes in the US market but some of the general principles that she's been able to glean from her you know 15 or 20 years experience reselling um discontinu products has been pretty beneficial to me so far so I'm in the midst of kind of scouting on a route um in my area um uh of you know local

(1:43:35) pharmacies and uh um mini Ms and and so on so I can find those types of products Beauty um if you ever do and I know you had mentioned that you've seen prior lists before but if you're ever interested in uh sharing some of the knowledge with the community always always very interested to see that but also if you end up putting together kind of like a bolo list of discon products that you're looking out for if you're willing to share that with others I'd be very interested in speaking with you about that as well because I think

(1:44:07) something like that a lot of people could benefit from yeah sure I'm actually right now what I've been doing because I'm still sort of in the research uh phase for better or worse um I tend to overanalyze things um I've uh found a few um resellers not just on YouTube but on Twitter I've been following um and uh they were they're actually pretty kind enough to even though they have their own discords um but the discords are just ridiculously expensive they're like 120 bucks a month or something stupid like that um I uh they will post leads

(1:44:43) every once in a while one guy in particular Zach altme in the states um he posts a few leads a week so what I've been doing uh because I subscribe to to his Twitter feed um I've been taking screenshots of all the leads that he's been selling and I've gone right to the start of his Twitter feed because I think he only started with Twitter maybe about a year or two years ago so I went through every single um uh tweet that he had specifically in ones were in which he shared screenshots of um products um from sold discontinued products and sold

(1:45:15) listings on eBay and I started to create them into a list so um once I get something that's more together cuz I kind of have a A peculiar way peculiar filing system um I can start to share a little bit more of them I want to see if I can find some of the products in Canada to I'm pretty sure that some of the some of the products um because he's in the US are probably just us specific um so I wanted to sort through them first and see which ones like which ones if any of them I can find in Canada for sure and yeah I would

(1:45:46) certainly be interested in seeing aist like that I have side projects that I've that I have in mind of things that I've been kind of working on in the background for things like discontinued media so like for uh certain video games that would sell for a high premium and DVDs and some VHS and CDs and I think like those things are very they're very hard to be able to put together list like that very efficiently but I think it can be extremely valuable information for people to have especially for those that are just

(1:46:19) wanting to just get started because like that's more so treasure hunting and it's very exciting and then they can also be extremely profitable and I think a lot of things like that can help people get the bug into reselling get hooked because you can buy something for a couple dollars like a book and sell it for a massive amount but these are retail products and um some people are more prone to want to be able to Source those products over books yeah I mean just as an example I was on um Zach's Twitter today and he

(1:46:48) shared um a lead on um some aerosolized deodor specifically soft from the brand soft and dry and the solds on eBay for this particular variant um I can't really see what this the uh the scent is but it's um in a pink bottle and one unit is selling for6 $60 on average and two two units um if sold as a combo on average is selling for about 125 bucks and that's us so and people are paying these prices it's just ridiculous yeah and Al be very interesting because like if information like that is shared with other people

(1:47:27) you might one day get very surprised on some of the things you might find because uh there's lots of people in here that do different types of businesses or have access to different types of people and inventory and I know like Danny for one if he sees lists like that all of a sudden he may have come across a liquidation deal that has a [ __ ] ton of discontinued products that he was not aware of if he saw information like that and also in that could be made available to somebody like yourself or somebody may have access to

(1:47:56) a a wholesaler a lot of them have sections in their cataloges for products that have been discontinued or are being discontinued and so if they're easily like oh I seen that before Evan shared that I'm going to look into this or I'm going to send this to Evan all of a sudden these become profitable opportunities right yeah so if um I will start um and that was my intention anyways to start sharing the leads in the community so do they just go under the um the flips Channel then or uh yeah if you want to start there for sure and then if it

(1:48:28) expands into something where it's like a regular thing then of course we can make a separate section just for uh like discontinued products or uh treasure hunting products okay awesome yeah 100% And then yeah like it becomes a very like whether you start sharing everything um just little by little I think that'd be super cool and then obviously it becomes very easy to to access that information be searchable and then maybe eventually build it out into like a spreadsheet that somebody could access and see all different kinds

(1:49:01) of stuff that has potential yeah I'm thinking like a peaca approach might be better so as not to you know overwhelm what I guess what increasingly little space we have in the in the server and the nice thing too about um about discontinue products is there's it's not like you're going to have a huge competition because you're pretty much with those types of products that area right so it and people going to drive so far so I might only drive an hour whereas you might be willing to drive two hours and in the the hour that

(1:49:36) I didn't drive might be more lucrative than what little I found right so yeah there's also if it's discontinued there's also so so much limited Supply so chances are extremely unlikely unless a massive Supply is found or they start remaking the product that the prices are going to decrease whatsoever yeah exactly it's very rare for for Brands to resurrect um certain products once they've um they've discontinued them but for discontinued products in particular depending on the types of products that you like to sell

(1:50:07) um I find that um for for beauty products which I I'm the most interested in not only as a a consumer but as a seller um you can uh find those predominantly in locales like these are youres that have you know oneoff names not like your Shoppers Drug Mars or uh rexa or um you know pharmace saave and and others those are more Ontario specific um but these are kind of the the oneoff names you're more likely to find them there and then it's not to say you can't find discontinued products or hard to find products and that's an

(1:50:42) important distinction because people often conflate the two and they're they're not the same um you tend to find those if in um or you can find those in Shoppers Drug Mar Farm they and other chain locations but they tend to be more in the clearance sections um you have to really look for them though because clearance sections um in store in Canada for whatever reason I don't know if it has to do with building codes um they tend to be dispersed among regular inventory rather than being concentrated in sections or if they are in sections

(1:51:13) they're on endcaps rather than in designated clearance sections like what you see in the US yeah for sure and yeah I know especially like small towns like small towns skatch one which I imagine everywhere else you have like your your random M and pop shops we just have like Dusty inventory and those are prime places to find stuff like that yeah for sure I mean even you find stuff just where you you wouldn't expect it so just as I was scanning uh books just uh before the uh Library uh sale in my uh Community had um ended for the

(1:51:48) season um they had brought out some um some inv with some obscure titles and one of them I think I mentioned this already but it was um a a book on the 483d Battalion which is a a famous um Airborne Battalion in the second world war um based in Los Angeles and uh in the book the book was essentially compendium of battle stats and photographs from you know anywhere from the the the late 30s to the to the early 40s late 1930s to early 1940s I pay 25 bucks for the book and I just sold it for $150 on E Beauty yeah I really like finding stuff

(1:52:31) like that and again it's more so like treasure hunting so it's a little bit more exciting of course and uh just it's incredible what potential they have even just in uh titles that you wouldn't even look twice at um I picked up I think it was a um I want to say maybe a a scholarly uh a monograph on um a paranormal phenomenon yian psychology and uh it's just sold on Amazon for like I don't know was like $65 so after fees I made about 30 some OD bucks just on that book excellent I'm happy that you're kind of finding your space and getting into

(1:53:13) everything a little bit more yeah what what I'm finding actually is um my Approach initially to reselling was just much too narrow um I find that if you want to do well in reselling it's or at least in my case anyway is to embrace multiple business models but of course you have to start somewhere right so you you practice one business model for a while and then but at the same time all all the while being receptive to to learning other business models and then eventually integrating um all of those because you're only going to lead

(1:53:44) to it'll only lead you to more opportunities the more receptive you are to other business models yep 100% and of course doing additional businesses I mean there's kind of a a catch22 with that because trying multiple things obviously spreads out your your focus of the things that you're you're focusing on and could be argued depending on what you're trying to do may make you overall less productive but it depends on what you really want to do like if you want to take Amazon super seriously and try to build an Empire you're probably going

(1:54:20) to have to be like blindly focused on that but if you're just trying to earn some supplemental income or you just want to build like an overall reselling business then absolutely nothing wrong with Branch it out and trying a multiple different Ventures and especially when people first start it's probably best anyway because you're more likely to find what really interests you and what you're going to stick with because if you just try one thing and you don't really like it that much chances are you're probably not going to stick with

(1:54:48) it very long anyway yeah um I find too I'm a little apprehensive too about specializing say in just in just Amazon um because you know despite your best efforts you know something could intervene to to to ruin that opportunity for you altogether either through um something you did in ignorance or um through you know no fault of your own so um as a rule it's because I'm risk averse by Nature I would rather have be as diverse as possible within the limits of the the time and the the energy that I have um but I mean at well at the same time

(1:55:27) acknowledging that it's important to have Focus otherwise you'll just your attention will be too dispersed and you there won't be much to show for your effort and your time 100% definitely I'm certainly a victim of uh ADHD trying different things because I started getting bored of one things I'm like o shiny business I'm going to go try this now yeah that's a huge problem for me everybody else has been a little bit quiet how is everybody else doing Nick Ron Bob how are you all doing yeah I'm good man I'm just listening I was just

(1:56:06) doing some work while s in the background any uh big changes over these last couple months for yourself no just I mean I'm just doing the same thing just doing it more you know spending more money things are growing so it's pretty awesome it's getting pretty exciting you know it's turning into a legitimate business now so so what are your goals then for this Q4 to accomplish um I think hit like hitting 50k months I think is a good start I'm getting there pretty quick though to be honest so maybe have to up that number a little

(1:56:48) bit so where are you at right now uh um last month I hit like 37 and this month I'm on track to already beat that so you know probably have to help that number and so with yourself um like how much of a change is that from month over month as in like for the previous months basically like how much am I growing month over month yeah said um let me just Lu probably growing like 5 Kish in sales a month because I'm just slowly upping my spent and not over leverage myself and chew myself in the foot um yeah and as my account's growing too

(1:57:49) I notice the momentum is really picking up which was pretty awesome starting to notice the Snowball Effect a little bit yeah absolutely and it's actually kind of I'm like holy [ __ ] you know like sometimes sales like I'm you know well past 2K in sales today and it's just like holy [ __ ] it really is rting up you know just all about spending more money at the end of the day viable items yep so like are you personally changing anything yourself besides just spending more or is that like just the main main thing that has been changing for month

(1:58:23) to month yeah just spending more and just putting more hours into sourcing basically that's really the big thing just more time and then more prepping as well right like trying to be a lot more structured with my day like oh I [ __ ] on Wednesdays you know Wednesday is when UPS comes I ship on Wednesdays and this day is when I go you know pick up my packages and stuff just try to be a lot more structured with it so I don't got super overwhelmed of course so it sounds like uh yourself and Melanie are in very similar uh pots at

(1:59:01) the moment for overall revenues so you might need to have a friendly competition on who's able to hit 50k months first absolutely you hear that Melanie I'm down I'm down I did that a lot I did that a lot with other sellers when I was uh growing in scaling yeah that would that would be fun though it's it's competition against myself but it's better when it's against someone else that's true like where you at what about you where you on it's on wait what's up sorry oh it's on yeah yeah it's on I'm at um I'll tell you so I don't

(1:59:45) know if we're even for the month yet but I'm at what did I say 162 or something I'm at 16 [Music] pretty even yeah at the beginning of this call let me take a look one second see if I'm closer was before Oh 162 yep 162 damn all right it's on oh that's crazy yeah that's pretty cool are you like doing all the prep yourself as well yep yeah is it getting to the point where you're like oh man I know that's what I was saying to Jordan earlier it's like I'm going to have to pay my niece or my nephew or something I just don't know physically

(2:00:35) if I'll be able to do it all like um next month the next month like if you even saw where I pre it's out of one bedroom in my two bedroom condo oh my God that's brutal yeah luckily I have a whole living room for preps so I have a bit of space um yeah I prep in here and then I box in the front 48 right it's a situation got to do what you got to do yep don't you have don't you have roommates Nick are they upset you took over the living room no because when I moved in I said this is the deal and they're like yeah no problem luckily my

(2:01:17) roommates are really chill and they're like basically only one room roommate hangs out in the living room mainly and like as I'm prepping we just talk you know or like we'll just listen to a podcast together or something so it kind of keeps me occupied nice which is good I kind of accompan and he's like oh if you ever need help you know just I would be willing to help you a bit I'm like okay that's awesome honestly once I start once I start the prep it's not hard it's starting it is the hardest part for me because I just look at the boxes

(2:01:49) building up and I'm like oh my God like I have to get started on that you know and once I get started though I'm like oh this isn't so bad it's pretty relaxing actually I've been prepping the full call so there you go that's being productive got to pick it up Nick yeah waiting for my shens to come in at my crossborder service to go pick them up and start I literally brought up nine boxes yeah okay it's on I think I sent my biggest shipment to not in units but like in actual sizewise like last week or on Friday actually it was like 16 or

(2:02:34) 17 U-Haul boxes 16 I think so like it's pretty pretty satisfying when you see them ready to go and then when you just give them to the UPS driver and the house is empty again and then the cycle repeats you know the Box build up have you have either you started having issues with any UPS drivers as of yet like complaining that you're getting too many boxes no no they're luckily luckily they're very chill so far this one guy it's like an older gentleman every time he comes now he just comes to the door with the trolley like ready to

(2:03:07) go he knows what's about to happen and then I have another trolley too so we'll like load his trolley up we'll wheel it to the truck he'll start loading the truck and as he's doing that I'll load up my trolley with boxes and then bring it to the truck and we'll kind of just like you know nice you get it done pretty quick but for me I live in like kind of a townhouse complex thing so the UPS driver has to park in the parking lot and we have to wheel it like to the the uh parking lot which is probably like 50 feet away or something so could be a bit

(2:03:42) of a pain but it's not that bad I know when uh we first started scaling I was scaling out of my parents house because I had outgrown my condo so I was prepping in my my mom and dad's living room and I took over their living room and there was a lady driver that was picking up boxes for us and as soon as we started having more than like just a couple she she complained hard and she's like oh yeah she's like I know these are not 50 PBS these are more than 50 pounds I'm going to weigh them when I get back to the to the warehouse whatever like do

(2:04:12) what you want man like we have scales and then she just stopped picking up our shipments like she she must have complained and all of a sudden somebody else was always coming in oh true and then like they were always cool and then the one day like when we had when we kind of like broke out and had like the most boxes we ever had a truck showed up that was like already mostly full as it was and when the guy showed up he's like oh like you have this many boxes like well it tells you on the on the portal how many we have and he's

(2:04:40) like well I don't know if I have enough room I like well let's make it work and he was doing nothing but complaining and we had to uh put some of the boxes in his front seat with him cuz he had like a rental truck it wasn't oh it wasn't a UPS truck it was a rental truck and he's like this is ridiculous but then ever since then they've always sent us empty trucks so yeah that's what I notice too when the guy comes around now the truck's usually empty now and I'm like oh [ __ ] yeah I'm I'm flattered the only thing that I kind of

(2:05:10) find annoying about it is you know when you like schedule a pickup you schedule the time frame you want them to show up in yeah they never show up in that time frame I'll do like show up between 1 to 4 they show up at like p.m. every time and I'm like is there any way to get you guys to come earlier and they're like no man it's just the way the routes are it's just and I'm like [ __ ] like it kind of sucks but it is what it is eventually when you're really consistent um and if you have like similar drivers like the

(2:05:38) same one two three drivers eventually they'll probably end up starting to come all at the same time like if like you're doing like say a week it'll probably get to that so it'll probably get better but yeah expect even worse going into Q4 yeah we've had it fluctuates but yeah we'll schedule shipments for like between 9:00 to 5 and all of a sudden we have we're waiting and we don't have in Q4 we don't have them come by till [ __ ] 900 PM I'm like are you serious yeah yeah there was one day where that happened I called UPS customer service

(2:06:09) and I'm like where the hell is the guy and then they're like oh like just wait another hour you should be there and he showed up I'm like oh he'll show up at like 3:30 I'll hand them all in go to the gym next thing you know it's like 7 p.m. and I'm just waiting around I'm like dude I wish you could just like tell me if you're going to be late like I could have went to the gym before you even showed up you know if you have the same UPS driver on a regular basis get his number yeah and ask him to text you right that's that's definitely what I'm

(2:06:37) going to do yeah it'll definitely save you a lot of hassle you want to hear something very sad what I just I just Monday had my first pick up you've been I've been driving the I've been I've been driving the boxes to UPS and that's dedication so that's stupidity well granted I did the same thing for quite a while like I use my parents van and we take it to like the main UPS hub quite often um so like it wasn't even like a UPS store that was close to me we take it to the hub which was like probably like a 15ish minute drive from

(2:07:24) where we were and I did that up until like probably like 10 10 12 box shipments at a time then we started finally having pickups I was like oh this makes so much more sense yeah for me I'm still picking up all my box spor service like I have a Honda cord and I just fill it to the absolute Rim you know like trunk back seats front seats floor I do it every time and it's been working but soon I'm going to have to get them to start sh be probably luckily it's like only a 15minute drive so I save money to all my margins I

(2:08:05) guess are you like you mentioned that you're having something coming cross border are you importing a lot of stuff from the US then into Canada yeah quite a bit actually it's probably most of my sales okay we're done so are you sourcing like primarily from places like Amazon Walmart and whatnot yeah like Walmart's a big one Amazon and then Brand's directly so do you find most of your products are relatively stable then um it depends really like some some are stable some crash it's just the name of the game you know it really

(2:08:44) is will you say the products you're sourcing from the US are primarily ones not available in in in Canada or are they just a matter of B being cheaper both but generally items I'd say actually probably a 50/50 split or so yeah mostly Walmart of the brands directly I only started really doing like Amazon buys today actually it's like I Source a bunch of stuff from Amazon us I haven't been doing that much but some of the uh stores I've been stocking seem to be mainly that so I'm just I purchased bun of from Amison us today um

(2:09:29) but yeah I'd say it's a mix um with buying from Walmart like you're shipping obviously from Walmart us to a crossb service than to yourself right correct are you doing the tax exemption with with Walmart um I honestly I will no not yet a lot of my items are taxfree it seems but I definitely have to get on that but in the past like two months I haven't been sourcing as much from Walmart okay it was before it was like one of my main sources but now I've been buying a lot from Brands directly and you know of course some other

(2:10:10) websites that don't want to stay um of course yeah definitely but I definitely have to get on the tax exemption like for sure but a lot of my products are products so it seems like a lot of those aren't apps some of them are but yeah I definitely have to get on that stop being lazy just uh makes life a little bit easier for yourself definitely yeah um yeah but sourcing from amazon.

(2:10:44) com super viable like I used to do it a ton there's a ton of stuff that just isn't simply available in Canada that you can get from the US there's obviously there's the additional risks about things not being registered in Canada and having issues like if they need npn numbers din numbers Etc and then they don't have them but if you're not sourcing um a lot of beauty products it'll be less likely to have those issues um like are you primarily sourcing groceries you said yeah like I essentially sell zero beauty products so okay most of my products

(2:11:18) are yeah like groceries and just you know household items cleaning products stuff like that yeah I've like in the past I had some issues with some random um how can I say it without giving it away they're random kind of household cleaning products they just randomly got restricted out of nowhere and there was no reason like they shouldn't have to be registered with health Canada in any in any way um so I mean there's still that risk but I found it's a lot less likely with just general products and groceries yeah

(2:11:51) I haven't really had many products the only items that have like gotten restricted on Amazon and stuff for me are some medical products and yeah like some cleaning products essentially yeah I don't think I've had really any issues with grocer yet yeah with groceries like the only issues I foresee you probably potentially having is just if some of those products have ingredients that are banned in Canada so if you're sourcing stuff that has like some weird dies or stuff in it you might want to just take a quick look to see if it's actually in

(2:12:21) Canada right makes sense yeah but it's you know it's part of the game some listings and stuff are going to get taken down right you just got to keep it moving and not Overby I guess of course so with your sourcing I'm curious and I wanted to discuss this as well uh your primary way of sourcing if you don't want to share that's completely cool are you like just manually sourcing stuff storefront stocking how are you finding most of your products generally storefront stocking and then into rabit bull sourcing so like you know I'll

(2:12:51) front stock find say I find a good item now you just get a feel for it as you go too where you're like oh I know this brand definitely has more items on Amazon and then I just look up that brand and then see if I could you know like if the site so like I'll find the source from one site and then I'll look at the brand and I'm like oh can I buy the rest of the Brand's item from this site for the same price you know and essentially go from there and then I guess if a site is good like a little niche site I sometimes go

(2:13:24) deeper into the site and see like oh if I found a good product on this site this site may sell other good products right so you just kind of think a bit deeper into that but that's essentially my main way of sourcing for now right on in the past I was uh screwing around with um keeper products finder and it was working well too it's just I kind of I've just been doing this recently because it's been working yep 100% % so one thing I've been exploring recently um I haven't done it enough to go that deep and like

(2:13:57) give information about it yet but it's like a sourcing method that I think is not so mainstream there are some people that are doing it but in my experience most people are not um it's web scraping like man like not manually but doing actual web scraping and so it sounds complicated but it's not because there's softwares that are out there that you can get even for free that you can and just let run on certain websites uh some you have to have run locally so like you have to have like the window open some are cloud-based typically those cost

(2:14:30) money but you can basically have websites that scrape websites for things like titles and upcs prices Etc and then you can really easily upload that data via CSV into some something like scan unlimited and scan unlimited you can actually use for free you can do one free scan per month uh you can do unlimited scans if you pay for a subscription uh but I imagine you can finesse the system and just get multiple accounts um but uh you can do the scan and then you can do like any currency that you want any Market that you want

(2:15:03) and I have found that is actually a pretty good way of sourcing it'd be very similar to like what tactical Arbitrage is but you have a lot more flexibility to do almost any website you want and you're not limited by the amount of scans that you can do and it's a lot cheaper yeah yeah it seems seems promising I think it's very promising and even to do crossb sourcing because like um scan unlimited once you pump products in scan limited if you're doing like say a UPC search so if a website has upcs uh those are more ideal to focus

(2:15:36) which all your big box retailers will probably have that once you pump that list into scan unlimited it can go through 10 20 30,000 products in Amazon's catalog in a few minutes Dam yeah the longest process is scraping the data to begin with but again it's just it's just a program you run and it just you just have to let it take its time nice uh like what do you think you'll have I guess conclusive results on that well like I already kind of do but enough to start sharing with people probably probably like within a couple

(2:16:13) weeks like maybe like a month just to ensure I don't see any like foreseeable issues but right yeah like I think it's I think it's very viable and I think a lot of people could do it for basically no cost that's awesome yeah I definitely check that out and if you are handy with coding at all or if you can really work your way around chat GPT and not get frustrated with it you can also and we've been doing it in the background you can build a bot that scrapes keepa for products on uh either Amazon Canada or Amazon us and

(2:16:53) sources it to sell cross border you can do that and it will do it for you automatically so it's essentially doing like when you're doing keep when you're doing keep a product finder it's essentially is essentially like doing that work for you right so yeah yeah that would be amazing we have some I don't have coding experience so uh we're working on some so it' be like some like the a2a Bots that we already have but we're working on some that I I mentioned quite a while ago in the server that uh are doing crossborder sourcing at this very

(2:17:31) moment Dam on that note Jordan I know we still we still like I was going through some of your videos the price monitors we have right now is I remember there was that one free software you mentioned which basically tracks any changes on our website right that's the one we have for private uh not private but just price monitors at this point right for any website out there we don't have anything built into our so like we have obviously our restock monitors of course and our restock monitors do have some capacity

(2:18:07) to monitor price changes and so like we have a category you'll notice in the server uh it's called I think it's called price price monitor hold on let me find it here so yeah it's called price monitors you'll see that there is a category above the restock monitors and right now it has Amazon us and Walmart us so some of our monitors do currently have the capability that they can monitor certain websites for prices um it's still being tested um realistically we should in the short term I can't say exactly when um but all

(2:18:49) the monitors that we have available for private restock monitors we should get access to price change monitors in the exact same format I can't say exactly when that's going to happen but it should be possible in the relative near future where you can access price changes the same as you would access restock monitors and you can do it privately okay so yeah like right now we don't have anything official uh but it's something that is being worked on would you for the I guess the I guess the restock monitors I mean how often do

(2:19:27) they check for like stock changes are they all the time like with price stock price monitors is there a way I mean down the line depending on the service I assume it it could be a matter of frequency right price you're typically checking on a daily if not a weekly basis if anything for price changes I would think was is more stock monitor is you know more ataw to that level so with the ones that we have with the providers that we use they are very focused on quickness so like our restock monitors right now they check based on

(2:20:00) whatever the website's proxy protection is so it depends on how how quickly a a website will pick up that Bots are actively monitoring it so most websites are every like every couple seconds it checks for for stock status uh very very seldom it's it's longer than that um so the price change monitors should be the same because they all operate on the same principle they just have to monitor different sections of the website but yeah like um in our in our resources like for those that are unaware we have a a little section there

(2:20:45) for um re a restock monitor that you can run locally on your machine so it's a free Chrome extension it looks sketchy because it's from a Chinese company but it's in the Chrome Store so it's 100% legit um it's actually pretty easy to use once you see how to use it it's just something you run locally on your own computer and you can monitor like any web page that you want uh for any any change so you can like you just circle around like stock status or circle around the price and then it'll actively run in your Chrome browser for whatever

(2:21:17) time frame that you want uh so it can check it every second every 10 seconds every minute every hour every once a day and then it'll notify you however you want when that section of the website changes wait what software was that uh it's in our resources here I'll put a link in yeah because I need that for Walmart um are you wanting to monitor for Price or restock like restock basically but price to I guess on some items that I suspect go on sale but I haven't seen them on sale so this is the free extension I put in the chat but you

(2:21:55) should also know that you have access to private restock monitors directly in our server as well and that works for Walmart perfectly yeah awesome Walmart W Canada and US yeah I got to look more into that because there's so much good [ __ ] in the server that it's it's like overwhelming you know like in a good way though it's just I have to take some time to sit down and rewatch all your videos son the walkthroughs of the server do you want me to just give you a quick demo on how to utilize the private restock monitors I mean if you don't

(2:22:28) mind I see it here though on the um restock monitors a to right P toz I guess it would be yeah Walmart restock so those those are public ones but I'll show we're we're here so I might as well show you uh let me share my screen here one second I need to make sure that I'm not I was actually gonna ask the same question yeah because there are items that like I really want to buy that are always out of stock and they get snagged up so quick right so of course I want to be aware of it and so the private restock monitors would probably be a better

(2:23:01) choice for you so right that that Chrome extension I shared with you that can be pretty effective but the more products you monitor locally on your machine the more it's going to bog down your machine and so I feel like yeah yeah like if if you're checking stuff like every couple seconds it's going to use out use those resources because it's basically opening up like a separate tab in your browser and actively checking it right right so with the private restock monitors we're basically like our Bots are doing that

(2:23:29) on your behalf yeah so like it's it's actually relatively simple um if you look in the command list under the general category that shows you um all the the bot commands you have access to right are you able to see my screen yeah yeah Okay cool so we have multiple different Bots that you can utilize uh for different functions the one that we're looking for is the restock monitors private and so all you have to do is message the S it's called the smt member bot right now uh so you can either click on the name here directly

(2:24:05) and then message the bot or you can open up the member list of the server scroll down to the bot section find that bot right click on him and then click message so then from here I was testing some products previously so don't mind that um but there's a couple commands but the main ones are exclamation mark M for monitor space ad space your store name and then the skew so we'll grab a random product and I'll show you what I mean so I'm just going to open up walmart.

(2:24:46) ca and it does say here it's limited to 10 unique restocks that's not a that's not a hard kit app you can go higher um we just put that in there because our bot developer was concerned about like you know many people like monitoring multiple hundreds of products so which uses a lot of resources so you can go over 10 um it's actively monitored from our developer who's in Germany who's not a Amazon Seller so you don't have to worry about your data being exposed um but if he sees you try to like put on like a 100 different products in one day he might be like

(2:25:19) what the [ __ ] going on on but if you're monitoring 20 30 different products it's probably not going to be a big deal or what did you mean by message the bot so you just like the bot in Discord basically acts almost like a person you can find the bot and you can send the the bot a direct message just like if you were to find my name and send me a direct message you do the same thing with the bot yeah but I don't say anything yeah you'll be you'll be saying stuff to the bot you'll be giving the bot commands directly oh

(2:25:50) okay and I I'll show you what I mean here momentarily okay I'm just going to pull up a random product here so we see that there are some cashews on sale at Walmart I'm not logged in cool you're not going to see my address okay so we have this guy so I'm at fake Street in Saskatoon so all we have to do is message the bot the the corresponding command so I'm going to open up the bot guy the bot here and the command is M exclamation mark m space add space the store name so in this case it'll be Walmart ca for Walmart Canada and then

(2:26:32) it asks for the skew so some websites it's the skew in the URL for other websites it's the actual physical URL itself so the bot will tell you if you do it if you do it wrong so in this case I'm just going to grab the skew which is going to be the last string of digits here in the URL going to copy that guy paste it in here hit enter and then the bot will tell me if I did it right so it's processing and then if it works it'll tell me momentarily here and again this is private just to yourself so nobody else nobody else sees this information

(2:27:06) our developer can see it on the back end but that is it and again he is this is his only thing he's not Amazon Seller and he's based in Germany so so sometimes it takes a little bit longer than others but once it's added then it's actively monitoring for restocks in your own private list and then whenever it detects a restock on that item it sends you a direct message similar to the restock monitors that we have in the server and says hey this item restocked uh so in this case it said it failed so we'll try again here

(2:27:36) in a second but it says hey this product restocks and it gives you a link to the item and you buy it immediately that's amazing so I'm not sure why this guy failed we'll try this again that alone is worth the cost of the server in my opinion I think this is worth more than more than the cost of this yeah definitely cuz if you were to get like softwares like some of the ones that are out there like visual ping it cost a [ __ ] ton more than that yeah like that item it finds you pays for it like many times over basically 100% yeah I'm not

(2:28:08) sure why this one oh there we go so it's it says add it and then and how sorry go ahead sorry so say you say you don't want to sell that item anymore how do you remove the item from the watch so you don't like bog it down is there a way to do that yeah so again if you look at the command list you can go M remove store name and so you can see also in the bot you can see all the stores that are supported which are hundreds so I'll show you now so if we go into the bot and we uh do M monitors it shows you the list of all

(2:28:43) the available websites you can use so awesome it's a couple hundred yeah that's amazing and if if Walmart's on there I'm happy with that Walmart uh US and Canada are both included yeah F cost and stuff all good [ __ ] yeah and then of course it also includes Shopify which is Thousands if not hundreds of thousands of websites awesome that's amazing thank you so much for that definitely and then if you want to see your list of products you can see that as well so you just have to run the command I think it's m

(2:29:17) list uh where is my restock monitor commands here or sorry M running okay and then the store name that will show you uh products for that individual store if you go M running it should show you your entire list and then for Walmart the command would just be walmartcom like if it's Walmart us for example so just Walmart like oh just Walmart okay yeah so if you run did Walmart oh I see there if you run the list command it shows you here uh what what you would type in okay that's perfect yeah and then so in the near future we should

(2:29:52) have access to basically this exactly what you see here but not to just monitor for restocks but also to monitor for price changes yeah which would be amazing yes what I didn't hear what's that what did you say also for monitoring what I did I missed that also for price changes oh price changes okay so like if you suspect some items go on sale but you haven't caught it before you know be perfect for that so yeah like the idea what will what it will be is you'll be able to set whatever product you want and then your your Target threshold for

(2:30:29) pricing so like say if you're looking at a product that right now is $50 you know it regular goes on sale for 25 you can set your maximum Threshold at $25 and if it detects a price at $25 or lower it'll send you a ping yeah that's amazing 100% yeah and uh for the public monitors that that BS the monitor bot right with the power on it we utilize both it depends on what we're doing uh what websites we have so yeah we have two different providers because I want to cover a lot of different [ __ ] and some work faster than others for certain

(2:31:07) Avenues so for the public restock or the public restock monitors primarily we are utilizing the same developer for most of the restocks uh the ones that we utilize the other for Best Buy yes we I think we have a mix of both so if it has the Bell on it that's from one provider called Moor if it has the um the speaker on it this is from the other provider called Tempo which is what we use for our private restock monitors got it yeah and if I want to stop any notifications from that one I just go to the Best Buy and say hey if

(2:31:46) it was like the starlink one I would just click the non Bell icon I guess at that point you know do have to find the post where I clicked it no you or is it you can click on any one that's the same skew you hit the the cross do one and then you'll get a DM from the bot indicating that it's been picked up once you get that DM that means you're no longer on that notification list for that for that yeah yeah cuz I assume like the Best Buy like the stalling one now is no longer at whatever it was $2.99 I think or was it

(2:32:15) so it's at 499 now so in the so that's for the standard kit but the they have an U an articulated kit that is on sale that we are monitoring for restocks as well so if look at this guy and this guy was even more so watch out for restock for this one this one hasn't restocked yet but this one yes no standard kit where is the articulated uh is that on the public monitor or it is but we haven't seen a restock for for it yet and we're running we're running Bots to actually scoop these at the same time uh we haven't

(2:32:55) seen restocks for them either so this one because we haven't seen a restock then you should set a keyword for yourself and you should set the key word for actuated got it and then then you'll still get that ping okay Y and so um we we do I am actually in the process of onboarding a a full-time virtual assistant specifically for the server um his job is going to be to help maintain a lot of stuff like our restock monitors finding a lot a lot of leads deals Etc uh he's actually in training right now this guy right here so he's

(2:33:41) going to be our first full-time paid staff member and so he will help also review a lot of the restock monitors and take out a lot of stuff that are no longer make sense or on sale Etc so soon we should only start seeing bangers come through the the public res monitors some right now like what we see is like this guy's no longer on sale so this should be removed uh I haven't got to it myself yet but this will be monitored a lot more regularly once he's fully onboarded and then we'll only see hopefully bangers come through these

(2:34:17) guys uh anybody else have any questions about the server while I'm sharing my screen yes no maybe no that was just that was the big one for me me too that's exactly what I wanted to ask cuz I've done the other one where it's not where it's um not private and I know you showed it before but like I got to start taking advantage of these things yeah me too so the the big things that I would say that probably apply to most people so specifically for Amazon sellers private restock monitors and sell watch so those two yeah sell watch is yeah those two

(2:35:10) have something I have to those two have potential to be absolutely massive and then in general uh utilizing our keyword Pinger that can also be extremely massive as well because you can set any keyword that you want to monitor any specific Channel and then when it detects those keywords it sends you a message of the exact the exact keyword it picked up so like if you want to monitor for a specific uh as being restocked in the public restock monitors you can do that if you want to monitor our deal monitors for specific um name brands like Lego

(2:35:46) you can do that and you'll be pinged immediately once it picks up a deal so like this is my uh my keyword Pinger over here and you can see when it picks up my keywords it sends me the exact message so it's it it can't filter out junk unless you use negative keywords but it can find a lot of stuff and you can very easily see if it's relevant to you right so like I'm monitoring uh the word signed in one of our vinyl feed monitors so we can pick up sign vinyls as quickly as possible so as soon as it finds it sends me the exact message with the

(2:36:22) link and then I can also go directly into that channel and see that there as well and I've worked I've worked extremely extremely hard and ensure that we had the the best resources available for the feeds and information that we have coming through here they're almost basically real time so like this this information is coming from Reddit CU like a lot of there's like some subredit some subreddit pull up a lot of really good information this within like a few seconds of it being posted on Reddit is being populated in her

(2:36:56) channels um I had somebody that is in another reselling Discord server in the US I asked them to compare uh because they have something similar in their server I asked them to compare time stamps with me with how they're pulling through information uh for example when they were pulling through we pulled it through 407 my time for theirs there was coming through like three four minutes later so we have like a three four minute advantage on stuff like that which is crazy because those servers are like so much [ __ ] bigger than us

(2:37:29) yeah but yeah I've tried to ensure that we have as good and quick information as we possibly can yeah for seller watch with the uh like the standard keep us description how many store fronts did you recommend stocking again so I know there's a limit with the tokens right there's no technical hard limit like you can do as many stores as you want it's just if you do a massive amount or stores with a [ __ ] ton of Asin it's just going to consistently eat up your tokens it's probably not going to be efficient so

(2:38:10) like if you're looking at like standard storefronts like say most stores have like say less than like say four 500 as you can probably come probably monitor about like 14 to 20 different storefronts oh [ __ ] okay that's more than we thought it's good yeah so we we did when we first uh were implementing that bot we ran the scans a lot we we we we used to run the scans for products every 15 minutes so like in that case it was like seven store fronts was like basically like your max we said it doesn't that doesn't really make sense

(2:38:45) it probably makes more sense to expand it and so we expand it to an hour so it scans every 60 Minutes instead of every hour and it greatly expanded the amount of store phones we can scan okay that's awesome yeah and theoretically say if I wanted to do more than that I could just add more like double the tokens to my keepa or like buy a separate Kea account for that would that being yeah like viable so I'll pull up keepo on my second screen here just to make sure I'm not exposing anything and then I'll show you exactly what you can

(2:39:11) do uh I don't think I'll expose anything in here uh do I see any of my billing info when I click into here I don't think so okay so um so yeah you can either get another Kea account or you can add on more data access to your current Kea account so if you come into if you log into Kea and you come into uh the keep API section so you come into Data keep API this will show you how many tokens you currently have so like this account right now has 20 tokens per minute uh standard account will have five okay if you want to add more you just come into

(2:39:54) pricing plans and you can add in whatever amount that you want okay and that will be basically this like is it more efficient to do that or more efficient to buy more keepa accounts so the problem with more keepa accounts is you would need a an ALT Discord because you can't you can't hook up multiple keys to one seller watch thread so like for me um I have basically all my vas monitoring seller watch in their own thread so like for me I have like eight different uh keepa accounts eight different threads go in

(2:40:32) um right so each one has their own individual thread uh it would probably make more sense for most people to just add in additional access to their own keepa okay um if you go with it the 20 tokens per minute so like that's 4X your regular keepa account uh let me see how many how many sellers I have in my 4X account on my secondary screen here hold on I think how would you know if you're being capped or whatever like if you're just constantly at zero tokens yeah like you you'll get a notification uh if you run out of tokens it'll say that you

(2:41:08) don't have enough tokens to scan this storefront um so if you get that notification consistently you know like you're running out tokens but like the thing is is like running out tokens isn't the end of the world you don't get charged for running out tokens and the way our bot operates is if you run out tokens in a scan and it misses adding that information for that scan it'll pick up where it left off the next scoreboard okay that's awesome then so I guess you might just be a little bit behind I guess but you'll still get

(2:41:37) those leads right it's not just going to skip over leads correct okay that's good then so let me I'll run my list here in this thread list how many do we have so one two three four five six seven eight nine 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 so in that in the account where we have 20 tokens we have 52 Sellers and that that one rarely if ever runs out of tokens so I could probably could add on a [ __ ] ton more yeah which is insane like 50 EUR a month

(2:42:33) so basically like one EUR per seller less than it yeah yeah that's great I'm going to utilize that yeah and like again like I wouldn't say increase your subscription immediately just use what you have uh like the only time like it's going to create real issues is like say if you add in a seller that has 100,000 as right so if you do that which in the near future we're going to prevent from being able to do that because it [ __ ] up people's data like it it it it'll just it'll bog your account down because like if say a seller just adds in like

(2:43:05) say I don't know 2,000 asens at one time it's going to take you a long time many scans to get through all those asens and be able to produce those results so it might take you multiple scans a day plus just to get through one seller right yeah I'm just gonna add sellers that I know are specifically OA sellers yeah and like it typically doesn't make sense to add in super massive sellers because chances are you're probably not going to be getting really efficient notifications if you're looking through those guys yeah awesome yeah I'll test

(2:43:35) it with like a few and then just see how it goes from there and just add as I go definitely yeah and then same with that like no one else could see that data except your guy in Germany or so this bot is actually ours so it is a it is a private thread full disclosure I can see those threads um I don't ever access them unless you have an issue and you specifically asked me to look at it right okay I trust you like I am the only person that can see it if anything uh but again like you'll see that somebody had asked a question about

(2:44:08) having issues with it I ask if they're okay if I can access their thread and then I look at it right if not I don't look at people's data I don't I don't have the time and I don't care to look at other people and honestly I'm pretty sure all the sellers that we put in there you're you probably already looked at yourself anyways so most likely most likely so yeah like I we're running eight threads and I think we have like I don't know upwards of like 200 different sells that we're monitoring yeah that's awesome so just

(2:44:39) that alone could build a very viable business I'm assuming so yeah if you do a lot of storefront stocking like the way my process works is I think it's best if you if you come across a storefront that you think would be viable for storefront stocking manually go through the entire store and then add it into seller watch because then going forward you will then get notified of all new products that that seller is ever going to sell right yeah that's the plan so then yeah you you can very easily efficiently see

(2:45:09) whenever they stock new products um so just doing that like you never have to go back in and manually stock that store which is very timec consuming because you're going to look over a lot of [ __ ] that you've already seen exact so then in this case uh you only see the new stuff so it's very easy and implementing that process by itself just with one thread I was able to replace the production of one full-time virtual assistant yeah that's amazing yes and then you could focus on future stories right you're not having to constantly go

(2:45:39) back to that store you already stocked before right like you could focus on new stories yes and I guess on top of that I mean I find part of stocking is cool you can find all these leads but you should if you have stores you kind of know where they're sourcing from in terms of the retailer like if there's no used to on stalking a a person who's pretty much wholesale right cuz you know you're not you're not you're not necessarily going to be able to get the same margin they can yeah they might have new asens all

(2:46:06) the time but you know you can't compare if you're not having the same buying power right I'm curious on your like I know you have a sheet which you know you shared in the past to kind of which pulls the US and CA and cell INF for like on average do you have a like you know based on each size it's like okay I want to track a new seller who has hit the 300 riew mark or whatever like typically how often do you kind of I know you update your sheet fairly often short in but do you have a criteria to that per se okay this person sells 58

(2:46:39) cents that iold in the B Store so my system is not that deep and complex I imagine eventually we might expand to something like that I think a lot of that is kind of hard to track but like the way how we track most of it is basically with the same sheet that I shared in the server for like a a seller database so we'll we'll look through the storefronts uh most of the time most storefronts were probably not going to spend time looking through if they have low feedback in the last month uh so if we open up the account and they have like

(2:47:10) zero or one feedback in the last month probably not going to waste our time you can find some results every now and again but chances are those are newer sellers or low volume volume probably in general not going to be a good use of our time so we probably for like OA we want to see probably like four or fiveish plus feedback in the last 30 days and then whenever we Source a storefront we always check in our database first which will have the information on when our when they were scanned last and by what employee and

(2:47:41) it'll have the corresponding notes that they took for when they scan that storefront or when they sourced it so it'll say information like like we look through this the storefront say December 1st 2023 they had no products that's not a viable store or we look through the storefront March 2nd and we found 10 viable leads so we know right away if they're viable um and then if it's a storefront that we've scanned a couple different times and they've produced us results we will then add them to our regular scan list which basically tends to trans

(2:48:16) translate to being added into slatch makes sense yeah but like you can utilize it for wholesale as well if you know you're buying from some of the same wholesalers that some of your competition is because then you can keep tabs on what they're selling and potentially if there's new opportunities at that wholesale supplier that you're unaware of 100% And I know you have your truffle piggy extension do you find like do all your sellers typic your buyers typically use truffle Piggy I mean you're typically saying hey you're looking at I

(2:48:50) don't know toys for example and then you just you know Google search using truffle piggy or do you find them using Google search I mean after a while even Google search kind of turns towards websites you visited prior right so most of the time we only utilize truffle piggy for Specialty Products or if we regularly Source Products from websites that don't normally populate on Google so the example that the example I shared previously was like Lego um because there's a ton of like smaller Boutique shops that no matter how much you search

(2:49:23) they almost never populate on Google so we'll use sh Peggy to search a a Lego set because we can quite often find quickly find it at one of the other 12 15 retailers we have in our list versus just trying to open it up on Google yeah cuz what I was thinking like I was looking at your retailer database and you know I was like oh looking at Dental or medical supply or Pharmacy you have like 30 different stores which are either phes or supplies or medical supplies and I'm like hm okay yeah I could Google search each one of those St

(2:49:53) fronts separately or eventually build them up into a truffle piggy list and have you know 20 of them go off at once right for the same keyboard um but yeah and that's really dependent on how good your machine is how capable it is um how powerful it is if you if you're running on like a shitty laptop with 4 gigs of RAM you probably don't want to do that but if you're running like a a really good laptop that's like speced out or a good desktop that can handle opening that many tabs at a time than it can be viable otherwise your your browser is

(2:50:25) going to get bugged down this [ __ ] and it's never going to load yeah but yeah like for seller watch specifically like we have been working on implementing some upgrades to it this is something that I've wanted to do for a very very long time what is being worked on right now again I can't say exactly when it's going to be implemented but there's already a system in place where you can download your data from seller watch into a CSV file it's like basically an Excel file um and then what we're working on is implementing the ability to also track

(2:50:58) sellers for restocks um so hopefully we'll be able to do it so that you can choose whether you want to track for only restocks only new products or both and then you'll also be able to download all that data whenever you want and so what it'll do is it'll produce you basically a an Excel file or CSV and it'll tell you that it'll uh categorize it by by your seller and it'll say this seller stocked this many a this many units on this day of this asent and then when they stocked more or when the stock amount changed

(2:51:32) it'll have a new line below that of the stock change so you can very easily then see you can pull up that sheet and you can see okay for for this seller for this as they went from 20 units to 10 units in two days so you can very easily see like oh this is this is an inclination that units change so either units got transferred or they sold units so if you see consistent changes in this in these units for this Asin you can very easily identify if the seller is selling units and how many they're actually selling so it's very easy to

(2:52:04) look through that list and find potentially good products yeah makes sense yeah D very cool that I feel like that would be useful for the um like really useful for slower selling items too 100% but I think like I know it's hard to visualize uh but once it's implemented once you once you utilize it um I think it'll be an extremely efficient way to find products that make sense from seller storefronts like I don't want to toot my own horn but I want to say it's going to be one of the fastest ways to Source Products

(2:52:48) that exists man there you go because we're also going to be coupling this soon and again I've been talking about this for a long time but we're we're actively looking into it now uh with the Google shopping API so when a uh a notification is produced so let me just pull up one of my threads here on a secondary monitor bring it over and I'll just bring up a generic seller so I hope this is nobody that's in here but so bring over this guy so when we see a a notification like this what it's going to do is it's going

(2:53:27) to actively search probably the UPC but we might also do the title and underneath this little ping that you have here it's going to populate another another ping with the top 10 results from Google shopping and it's going to say you can buy this product from Walmart for $2 from Toys R R Us for $5 from Giant Tiger for $3 from l drugs for $4 and it's going to be UPC matched generally and it's going to have links to all those products so you're going to see very quickly that this product my expected payout is 784 and you're going

(2:54:00) to be able to see immediately I can buy this product right now it's in stock at Walmart for $3 you can open up immediately and that's going to be sourcing on autopilot it's going to basically source for you damn that's crazy and all this is possible huh the payout year is that what based on just Amazon fees right not any additional prep cost all that fun stuff I assume and shipping cost to Amazon either correct this is this is your set payout after your Amazon fees correct cor so all this is is possible we already know that it is we're looking

(2:54:41) into it um and it's only a matter of time we just need the time and then it'll be imp imped when we when we can get it done properly and that's going to be I think quite massive and these coupled with some other things are one of the reasons why uh our fee for new people is going to be increasing quite massively soon not for existing members but for new members right it's understandable yes I already think it's it's underpriced as it is but stuff like definitely is stuff like that but I'm not complaining stuff like that like I think

(2:55:26) if you just utilize it properly you can you can get a lot of value out of it yeah Audio pricing I know you mentioned you haven't increased the prices just yet for like an annual or I was looking maybe at a semiannual membership I assume the the discounting structure would remain the same whether it's annual semiannual or monthly right say I mean going forward it'll probably be similar uh but it'll probably be a bit of a less of a percentage discount with the new price structure but again anybody that's already here you don't have to worry

(2:56:04) about it because it's all going to be the same price anyway but yeah like again I'm very I like developing useful things and tools and if you take the time and spend a little bit time looking through some of the stuff you can you can make a good amount of money would you say Jan the people who have like your lead list majority of them have port on the server as well as on the leads list or do you find sellers eventually graduating from the leads list to you know restock monitors and all this other fun stuff you have here

(2:56:43) and kind of doing sourcing themselves I know it's a mixed bag from you know seller to seller choices but I think there's there's a a large mix of everything so like we have some people that are part of both uh there's quite a few customers that are part of two three even like four lists at a time and some of those are not members in the server some of them are um there's some that are not even a part of this uh they never have been they may never they may they may never be so I think it's it's a mix of everything

(2:57:20) some of them never um when they sign up they never provide their Discord username and I don't know if they are in Discord so I also can't link them in any way either yeah but I think there's a lot of good potential and good exciting things that are going to be happening in the future yeah I mean to me I look at your leads list and I mean I TR for it for month at a time before I think like with the server benefits like obviously the cost of your lead list is X I think with the server if you use your you know seller watch and all the restock

(2:58:01) monitors and eventually all the other tools you have I'm sure you can get more I mean when the C when you look at the price comparison even just you have the US you know us to ca list or whatever it is you're technically more banging for your buck from the Discord server if you know how to leverage it properly that is and you know get the right asence to you obviously you have to do a bit more leg work but you know that's so yeah like they are different products um so like I think the potential for the amount of

(2:58:33) value that you can get from this server is very massive um you can get a lot of value from the list as well but they are priced differently because that's also extremely vetted information restricted to a set amount of people and like this is like oh you can look at this you can reasonbly expect to make this amount of money and you don't really have to do a whole lot of thinking or sourcing yourself and there's a lot of manual labor that goes behind something like that whereas something like this we can expand it out

(2:59:06) to more people basically spread the cost amongst more people in general and not have to provide as much labor from my end or just overall cost to produce um to produce the results that we're seeing so like for example like the a2a Bots these are Bots that are running on in the background I don't got to do [ __ ] for them whereas with the list I have to pay employees to find the leads put the list together ensure everything's vetted Etc right and it's also rest it's also restricted for the amount of people whereas with here it's less restricted

(2:59:42) for the amount of people that we're going to have eventually there's going to be caps but we can spread costs amongst a lot more people but right now what's stopping someone from just sharing their Discord login with I don't know OVA or whatever and then they VA using the whole platform this is nothing stopping them wouldn't necessarily know either nothing um the only thing that's realistically stopping somebody is just the security of your account right yeah um we have people in here that have V that have access to

(3:00:13) their Sellar watch thread you can do that at no additional cost they would only have access to Sellar watch because I there may be special circumstances where somebody wants a VA to like Source a bunch of information for them in here um but I just don't I want to not give easy access for account sharing but I suppose there's always a way that you could get around it yeah fair enough yeah if you have a VA and you want them to have access to your St watch thread you just have to let me know and we can get them access

(3:00:48) very very easy very straightforward uh for those that are still here if you guys are ever paying attention to limited onetime hype drops I would highly encourage everybody to pay attention to this upcoming Disney tumbler that's happening on the 13th which is Friday this should be very profitable and you can also utilize free auto checkout so all you have to do is fill in your information and Vin will attempt to bot the items on your behalf so I'd highly recommend that you do pay attention to that if you are in the market of

(3:01:34) reselling products on places like eBay because it should be quite profitable anything happen with Stanley today what's that anything exciting happened with Stanley today no I haven't looked up the market so like the thing that we saw is the Stanley set it had its own collector box so like that does have potential to add additional value to it because like obviously the IND the individual units will not have that uh let's look up the comp see if anything has changed Stanley spie set because people should be getting

(3:02:16) notifications about being one or not I just like I don't see The Collector box adding that much additional value um no I don't I don't think so either there's always potential but from what I saw it kind of looked like it kind of looked like a cardboard box so it didn't look like it was anything that amazing so yeah what about the individual the individual ones we'll discuss here in a second so here for list for listed on eBay we see listed quite high right now so when I had posted the full the full thing I think it was yesterday uh the expected

(3:02:57) sold was like around 850 is Canadian uh we see some listed at 1,200 or so thousand plus listed doesn't matter we haven't seen any additional ones sell for a higher price yet so the only ones that we hav SE sold we haven't seen any more sold so far and the highest that we see sold is 86 68 so the full set may get a couple sales for like a th000 plus I I personally think that it's probably not going to have a ton of sales because it is collectible but it's very expensive for somebody to just want a set of Stanley um the individual Stanley I

(3:03:41) think some of these have good potential but it's all going to be dependent on the stock that's released and if the releas them if they release them via raffle it's going to be extremely difficult to attempt to gauge that market uh I know Drew mentioned that it looks like they are going to be doing all Raffles I haven't seen any details that they are yet but if they are um I might proceed with a little bit more caution but I think I think with the original assessment that we have here I think some of these look Fair it looks

(3:04:12) like the ones that are going to be more pink are going to be the ones that look like they sell the most and so in here uh yesterday I put at that time how many were currently listed and how many were currently sold for each one on on eBay so the one that had the most volume the most sellr rate was the original icon so this one right now the first one that was today right so the one today was for the full set all eight of them together oh was it yeah why did I say the F first one was the first Barbie this one I'm pointing

(3:04:51) like you can see me pointing what the hell's wrong with you no this one the 10 was the set of eight the eight 40 oce ones oh okay so yeah this was the whole this was the whole set in my opinion like it was retail price but I don't think it's going to be that great I I think it's a little overrated yeah and I think everyone went crazy for harby so I don't know like that's why I have I asked you a couple times I just I don't know true I also think it's a it's a factor of like the Bobby movie came out last year so this one's just

(3:05:26) celebration of the whatever the anniversary right it's not necessarily tied to the movie release anymore so I mean it's still have the hype but slightly different perhaps yeah I think the hype has really died down because it's been a year since the movie right if they had released it closer to the movie release these probably would have been [ __ ] ridiculous uh but I think they were a little bit late to the game but like so we've seen like Stanley like Stanley especially limited edition ones had had a lot of hype previously I think

(3:05:56) a lot of the hype has really died down with Stanley it seems like more hype is more hype is going into like those AA cups or however you pronounce ITA yeah yeah yeah but I still think like there's potential here for Stanley but there's going to be again I think we just have to be selective with the ones that are going to be profitable so like right now the one that sells the most is this guy right here and the most profitable right now looks like it's going to be the 40 ounce one not the 30 oce one um and usually the US

(3:06:25) Stocks out before the Canadian right and there different stocks for each country and usually we can Canadians are a bit luckier in terms of overall quantity anything in demand yeah if they're doing General like standard releases like a lot of the releases that we saw previously were like the US stocked like say 20 or 30,000 units and Canada stocked 2,000 and on the releases like we if they're not Raffles we were able to watch the US market we could watch and see how quickly they sell out and we have ample time in Canada to purchase any units

(3:06:59) that we want some of them we had multiple hours some of them we had multiple days before they sold out yeah so I think if they are going to be regular release which I haven't specifically heard if they're going to be Raffles I think that would be the better way to go to see how much stock is actually there and how quickly they start going if they're Raffles it's going to be completely different because we're not going to be I think it's 99% yeah us is fully still have the same return refund sort of policy I think

(3:07:37) yeah you can still return them but I think you have to uh pay for return shipping yeah I would go for the only by Barbie icon and uh T and turn that's that's all I'm looking for I'm the same the first one yeah maybe in the 40 the 30 I don't know so this one like right now again it has the most Demand right now but also we may see that they release way more stock for this one which would obviously increase the supply massively so that's why yeah that's the thing yeah we just have to watch like I don't think I don't

(3:08:15) foresee it being released and going massively under retail even if it is over supplied so like if it is massively over supplied and you do buy them obviously you can return them you do have to incur that cost to return them but chances are you can probably get out of it for a very very minimal loss of any if you're just on top of the market and the price do start to drop yeah for sure so where did you see it um indicated that the US is doing Raffles for these guys oh I got the text uh saying that you had to enter today to

(3:08:57) for the raffle because I was signed up in the US I got that I got that too actually yeah it is a raffle now that I'm thinking about yeah 100% I'm not sure with the can I think uh I don't think the can will be rle but not sure yeah I I'm in Canada and I got that today that I had to enter well that that was for the full set I know that one was a raffle but it didn't mention the upcoming ones as well know what because yeah like the full set release that happened today definitely was the raffle for sure we didn't see any in Canada but the US one

(3:09:36) was a raffle uh I just yeah I didn't see any indications that the individual releases were also going to be Raffles even I haven't got any email or notification from the Stanley can so it should be might be not raffle might be open market who knows you I'm not sure um our scrapers did pick up like they added um they added listings directly on their website I think they're inactive at the moment uh yeah they're inactive but our scrapers did pick up them adding actual product pages so if they're going raffle only it's just strange that they would

(3:10:14) add a actual product page uh if they they are going raffle yeah I don't know now that I'm looking at the email if they are going to go raffle because um they listed it at 1200 p.m. and usually with the raffle you could there's a there's a timeline right a 4-Hour window where you could um enter the raffle like today for example you can enter from it was 4 there was a 4-Hour window enter y right and on this email it says that the drop is tomorrow at noon so drops every drops every day at 9:00 a.m. PST 12:00 p.m.

(3:11:10) EST I'm not 100% it could go either way but like their last previous releases that they've done uh like they did the Olivia Rodrigo with a raffle they did the the chocolate gold with a raffle so I mean they may they may do it this one as well and again if it is I think we should just be a little bit more cautious because it seemed like like with a chocolate gold one for example it seemed like everybody got units so they may be just intentionally oversupplying the market I don't think like have you seen the Walla

(3:11:50) ones yeah for me as a as a whatever whatever um the whole the whole thing about the Stanley Cups it's all a status thing I'm walking into the gym with this thing that's bigger than me it's a it's a thing it's a trend the aala isn't it's not trendy it's it's more um I think it's a better cup to be honest it doesn't leak where Stanley leaks right um see how those close and whatever issues that came up in January that people are kind of a bit more hesitant on them now and that was so stupid I think the people that are buying Stanley don't

(3:12:35) care about the lead or the no lead I think it's a if you're spending that much on a cup you don't care about lead I'm sorry you just well I definitely think that could have impacted it because people are like oh [ __ ] like get Le poisoning but like it was kind of stupid because it was like it wasn't on the interior of the cup so like I mean no it wasn't it was on the outside on the bottom but people definitely get Negative con connotations when they see stuff like that and they just read headlines oh Stanley's have lead [ __ ]

(3:13:02) those [ __ ] those actually I have to tell you the Stanley I was at the beach you put ice in there and the ice does not melt all day like in fact I brought it home and it still hadn't melted kind of cool yeah I gave my mom one of the a pink Stanley for her birthday and yeah she has that thing packed with ice and water all all the time yeah it does help you drink water I I'll I'll say that I don't know I have a I have a black bottle that has a straw it's massive sitting next to me all the time 64 ounces I think it was like 20 bucks

(3:13:42) on Amazon yeah bigger than a Stanley and a lot cheaper I know but yeah so I think again I think it has potential but it's just something that we have to proceed with caution with a little a little bit um so this guy the next one's going to be on the 16th which I think is next next week so it' be Monday that's when it's started and then every day after um yeah we we'll be watching uh for the icon one coming out on Monday for the individual and then there oh the 16th yeah the 16th yes oh my God here I thought it was tomorrow what's wrong

(3:14:29) with me no no noise on the 16 yeah yeah okay uh has anybody been has anybody been looking for the special edition Oreo Coke stuff no no oh I bought I bought the cookies have you listed them or are you just eating them they're they're coming tomorrow so but you know I don't know if there's like some is there pop rocks in them I don't know it said pop candy did you see that oh pop because if you look at Walmart oh it says popping candy yes it does yeah now that's cool so these as far as I'm aware they went up I think

(3:15:16) today or I think it might have been yesterday uh in the U in the US as far as I know in the US on Amazon they sold out uh they went up in Canada too I saw them in Canada by the way oh yeah we we posted about them oh I didn't see that I was I was doing my own research uh but these have a lot of Demand right now um I can see it depends if Amazon is going to be selling out the pop still I think has good value the Oreos themselves have come down a little bit but there's still profit to be made um but it's going to be

(3:15:54) dependent on if they sell out and also with these ones I think depending on the expiry dates that you get they could actually be decent to hold for a little bit and to sell back on Amazon because like the ones that were like the the Star Wars Oreos once Amazon actually sold out those were actually selling pretty decent on Amazon directly oh that's good to know cuz I could I could buy them and hold them I don't have a problem as long I don't they will Pro they will probably end up having some collectible value

(3:16:30) because like they are limited and like they are a big brand collab so like long like long term like not like probably like a couple years down the road they will probably have actually pretty good value but that's holding them for a long time and hoping that people still buy talk talking about the co you're talking about the coke not the cookies right I'm talking about both of them oh how long are the cookies going to last people are going to buy the [ __ ] even if they're expired because they just have collectible value that's dis that's

(3:17:00) disgusting collectible value is a big thing they're not gonna well I would assume they're not gonna eat them but you might have some weird YouTube show in 30 years that wants to buy them to eat them oh my God so funny like to bu them we're not need a bag but come on yeah the popping candy in me do they have a listing error you might be able to get them for free oh yeah where's my popcorn no mine hasn't shipped yet either okay it hasn't cancelled but it hasn't shipped no it probably won't cancel it might just ship like a month

(3:17:45) or two out that was like me you remember the Starbucks Coffee had an error yeah it was like six bags for the one or whatever yeah mine unfortunately never shipped it just like I don't know it just canceled on its own like three months later I'm like oh man oh really for those let me check my order history uh I had because those had restocked a couple times I'm pretty sure I ordered like 30 or 40 bags and I got them all Dam the coffee yeah so let me look at my order history Starbucks uh how many how many of them did you drink be

(3:18:23) honest none I sold them all okay so I ordered uh five five of them and I think each one had I think was it six units per per yeah I think so yeah so I had 30 bags so yeah I didn't I didn't drink any I sold them all the popc I'm not I can't even eat pop and I'm like I going order it anyway so those like honestly like it sounds stupid but stuff like that is actually really easy to sell locally because you think of that like you get a box of six of those for less than You' buy one single box for so if you are in

(3:19:04) like a decent sized city like Toronto Vancouver or even like where I am which a small City Saskatoon you post that [ __ ] on on Facebook people actually really want it cuz it's very cheap you can sell the the case of six um so normally that would retail for like what 30 bucks it probably be very easy they could sell a case of six for 20 bucks yeah and everyone drinks coffee so yeah like I'm I'm talking like with the popcorn you can probably sell the case popcorn easy for like 20 bucks oh yeah and for extra money I bought 12 cases of the popcorn

(3:19:47) so yeah you think about that like if you sell 12 and you profit I don't know 15 bucks a unit it's pretty easy to make 180 200 bucks yeah yeah yeah for sure and if they only ship the one pack then you just get a refund for it basically yeah all you have to do is just make a open up a uh support uh window chat with uh Amazon and you say hey I was expecting a pack of six you can see what that's what it says here and they'll just refund you for the entire unit you can keep it because they don't except uh food for

(3:20:20) returns but I'm fully confident that they will actually ship full cases there were ones that were Orville Redenbacher that we got a couple months ago that was the exact same thing I got them they were full cases and this particular as it was priced previously like it was going to be a full case of six um I think Amazon just [ __ ] up and price matched it to another store to be a case of one which they tend to do quite often uh Nick everything's Nick so you know everything's prepped everything's prepped oh nice some Nick did you ever end up

(3:21:03) trying to get any cologne at all oh no like I didn't go through that one yeah kind of risky ask how many bottles he has yeah I don't know how I feel doing that it feels a bit like that's completely fair with my morals you know I don't know it feels a bit weird but I have been abusing factor factor like every weekend it comes on the porch I've been eating that for the past like month haven't cooked really any dinners since oh my God I got a tri factor is it good yeah it's good I like it um like it it's all homemade or whatever like it's made in

(3:21:47) but it tastes like you know when you make a nice meal at home and you heat it up like a day later so it's not completely fresh but I like it I mean for the price I'm getting it at just being the shipping it's well worth it saves me tons of time too uh Melanie did you try anthropology yet no I have not did you see anthropology I have not I just for the first time did Uber eeds you're behind you're behind no and I was so stressed out cuz football was on and we're all starving and the thing wasn't going through and then I just did it on

(3:22:29) my normal account on my phone because I never I don't I don't normally order an Uber eat so I'm like okay let me use my real thing next Sunday is going to be another issue so uh I think it was last week it was my brother girlfriend's birthday and we were at my parents house and they were going to order Chinese food so like I'm going to try uh Uber Eats and like it was regularly clipped for me because I don't have an iPhone but she had an iPhone so I was like I'm going to follow Drew's advice and try it on her iPhone

(3:23:04) worked I placed three backtack orders all the same restaurant and so the food that would end up costing $120 plus delivery and tip uh all in with deliver and tip cost us 30 bucks and we fed I think we fed like it it breaks human that's seven or nine people have you thought yeah have you thought of just about buying like a shitty used iPhone and buying like a cheap SIM card or something I definitely considered said yeah I should send you my six I don't know if it'll work on like a super old one because like you you need

(3:23:43) to have the updated browser and like the I think oh yeah I think maybe yeah I think like maybe like the the cloud email may also make a difference as well have you tried using like blue Stacks or something you know the um the like desktop mobile app I have not I think I I triy but I don't think that would work yeah all the request will go from the blue stick not from the actual server yeah like a lot of it really that's the one kind of like you to load in Android you cut out there Drew what was that uh that's just a provider is is one

(3:24:32) kind of app the blue that works as Android you can download all the application and everything but the your request really grow from the application not from the actual server so that's the issue that see yeah like it really seems like it's like device operating system linked like apple seems to like block the ability for people to determine that like it's that that that specific device I see yeah so like Androids eventually get clipped but iPhones don't it seems so like we've uh some people have been having issues recently with

(3:25:11) iPhone uh but it seemed like that was the case right guess what's that true let's wait for the new updates I think they try to find uh they they found the clip how they going to call us yeah I this is a straight for another eight and to start back on who knows right maybe not download iOS 18 then yeah well like we we don't know like maybe yeah like maybe when the new iOS comes out maybe it'll fix it maybe the old iOS works better we have to try multiple things to see what works yeah I just I to give a full weekend for Uber to see if they're

(3:26:08) working or not Jordan so how do you how do you do your three orders back to back you have a different email you have a different you you just jig jig jig yeah so like um Drew shared some details about how to get like the the cloud Plus or apple plus whatever the hell it is where you get to like basically hide your email and get like a new email that goes to like the same one uh you pay I don't know like it's like a dollar or two for that with iOS so you can easily make a new email very simply so you make a new email uh

(3:26:40) you open up a private browser uh you enter in a jigged address and then you you order it and then you generate a new email you open up a new private Tab and you repeat the process oh [ __ ] it it takes a little bit because you have to like generate new card new email Etc then you have to make sure you don't close your your tab so you don't lose your order make sure you can contact your driver but yeah like gu it's not that bad we good Mexican that's good that's good yeah I think because I wait too long and I'm hungry I don't have the patience for

(3:27:30) it I think if I kind of planned it out now for a while when I was abusing Uber it's like basically I wake up it's like okay I know I'm going to want breakfast in like 30 minutes or an hour so right when I wake up order it it's it's it's it's here by the time I'm already up and ready oh my God you're so funny or well I'm Welling in bed before we take the dogs out we're good to go you know what I still wanted to try I don't think I don't think it would work though is my Uber thing that I got from Costco why can't I use that as payment

(3:28:10) so be careful with that because I believe when you load that card on your account you're going to load the entire balance I don't think you can use it like a gift card oh so if you do that and your account if your account gets clipped which a allot those account to do after the order is placed then you're going to lose that balance yeah okay so that's not worth it yeah getting those Uber gift cards is just better to utilize them regularly yeah I think so to no I really need to get someone to list all this stuff on eBay that's in this

(3:28:50) room yeah I've had like a backlog of I've had a backlog a bunch of stuff that's why I posted um those dolls the other day I'm like I have a bunch of [ __ ] like I'm probably going to list some more stuff but I'm like these sell really good I could sell them for more but like I can probably just sell them to one person in bulk uh and so I post them five minutes somebody contacted me I sold them I like that's a lot easier somebody else can make some money I can make some money goodbye oh I know like I I in the back of my

(3:29:20) head it's always like okay you got to post on eBay because to get your account even going you need to have some listings and then there's just always something else to do there's always stuff to do you so I never get around to it and now I'm sitting in here looking at the stuff staring at it you have to make it a priority just those doorbell things that we got those are here are here the blink doorbells yeah get them listed money sitting there I know yeah if anybody was taking if anybody was paying attention and looked

(3:29:58) at those star links that were posted those things were massive those things were massively profitable Oh I thought you meant massive as in the size of the Box you're cutting out Drew what what's that did youy ever try to sell those star links on the eBay Star links oh got off what were you saying Drew can you hear me now yeah so did you ever try to uh sell those star links yeah so these on the these these ones are moving very well on eBay yes and so the standard kits are over but there's still the actuated kits that are

(3:30:53) technically still on sale it's just we haven't seen a restock of these yet and these ones are even more profitable did you try to use your MX card to purchase from the bass buy because mine doesn't work yeah I've used MX with bass buy quite a lot cuz I tried like 10 times keep canceling my orders all the time do you think it's because of AMX or do you think it's like something else I think uh I call them they said that you you have a what you keep cutting out you Wii I call MX they said everything is good from them side then I called

(3:31:43) back again M by they said you have a issue with your credit card but looks like they probably issue with my account I account I guess because they are not allowing me to purchase more than one taling and I place order for like three four quantity probably that's why it shouldn't matter like I mean it's it might get clipped but like it seems like when they're available like I've ordered multiple at a time I haven't had any issues um try like have you tried I know it's going to take a little bit longer but have you tried checking out with

(3:32:18) have you tried checking out with PayPal nope now work um I believe Best Buy has oh try that one yeah I believe they have an option to check out PayPal you're gonna have to be very quick because they're going to sell out quickly but you should have the option to check out with PayPal that might work I'll I'll try that one yeah those star links I was looking at them and like they sell on Amazon us uh the only issue was is like they were all under generic brand but like if you could make a listing for starlink or

(3:32:58) find one that is like out of stock I think those could be massively profitable on Amazon too yeah I got a couple of those actually and listed them on eBay but they never sold so I actually end had to end up sending back uh I sold a good couple I think they are still selling quite well let's take a look at these guys starlink kit I spell it right Starling kit so we have a lot listed I think a lot of people found these that they were on sale but yeah we have 287 sold uh and it looks like we're selling there's multiple units that are being sold every

(3:33:41) day and there's units being sold for 500 400 500 550 so it might just take a little bit to sell through if you have a lot of stock but I definitely think these should sell and I think if you have a market locally these could also be viable locally as well yeah there's one of the uh Auto checkout sers too who are you have to ship it to them but they're paying I think they they're pay 250 USD for each one for the cash out servers yeah uh the the buying group one I foret it's called the buying group okay yep but they have

(3:34:25) a by the way on that buying group one they actually have a Canadian group chat so only if you request access to the specific Discord link then it does give you access to the can one uh than the generic one I did not know that I have them here yeah so not the max out deals one uh the other one yeah that one yeah so they have a Canadian seller Ro which you got request access so if you go to they've just recently launched that and even they have a like a seller Ro for Sellers and stuff so you just have to open up a

(3:35:01) ticket with their support and a you have to if you have like sold anything to them prior they give you the the seller Ro as well as then if you want you can ask them to add you to the Canadian um recently kind launch you have to open up a ticket with them to get access to the Canada one yep okay I will do that I did not know that good to know let me do red right now good to know yeah let's see so here I can add let me see if I can add you to it yeah it looks like at one point they're paying 290 USD yeah so they were saying that they

(3:35:58) would you would just add to the US like commit and you would have to find a way to ship to them but yeah if you're close to the border and you're able to take it over yourself that' be definitely viable for sure yeah even just ship it while a chi chats or something yeah 10 bucks for a couple because what was retail what was retail 199 yeah yeah so they're cashing they were paying 260 us to either Miami or Oregon as the as the warehouse yeah so yeah well look like here they had the it posted for 290 so yeah if they're doing 290 that's

(3:36:39) a cash out of almost 400 bucks so that's that's that's pretty good yeah yes that would have been use what's that so you just you just s how how you send the delivery to us what the process you just go to the Canadian Post and uh send it to the US that's all so the most viable option would be either obviously take it over the Border yourself or to utilize a AC crossb shipper uh you can ship it like with Canada Post or other services but it's probably going to cost too much if you have something like locally like Chit

(3:37:17) Chats or stallion uh they can probably ship it over the border for cheaper for you yeah do we have Jordan are do you have um there's a Canadian buying group I don't know if you it's not they don't have a Discord they have a WhatsApp yeah I'm not I have I've never seen that if they have a Discord or not no no but then they don't provide any they just simply gave you the payout based on whatever the value that's never ever commissioned to it so yeah I'm actually a member of the Canada buying group and yeah it's they hardly ever pay out

(3:38:00) commissions and actually what I've been I've noticed over the last few item for the last few items I've bought uh for them is um more I think we're more retailers especially big box retailers are aware of their addresses so uh those ters are actually canceling the orders oh yeah Best Buy has their order restricted their address limited um so that's for sure and they have like usually they they sell out pretty quick on their order limit on their like portal you got to register before you you ship and like sometimes they hit their limit that's

(3:38:40) why yeah probably that's why my order keep getting cancelled because I put the cash out service address and probably they knows the address yeah 100% even Best Buy us the only one which I find is not as picky is Amazon us for example I've had even even issues with like Google like google.com I used to like do chomecast uh they they have limited my that address too and it's not like in us like for us if you like have 20 units they allow you to they send you a free label to ship it to them from your Us address but for us

(3:39:27) that's limited for the Canadian one I've actually sometimes bought in stuff from local stores and actually dropped it off because they're like 15 minutes away from me but it's just like not worth the effort yeah I mean to to me it seems like it's worth it if you're close by one of their the the warehouse to drop it off otherwise it just for the amount of effort and time that's involved and uh it's not worth it even if you're getting the cash back because most of the time the cash backs only may be like two or 3% yeah so that with the US

(3:39:58) solers are much better like max out deals and stuff I you yeah well the the business model yeah the business model makes more sense in the US because they're they're getting around the um the the the possibility being having their address clipped by the retailers by giving you the shipping label right so there's definitely I think possibility for something like that at a larger scale than what exists right now in Canada and like I've had some people talk to me about it like uh one guy in the server um he had mentioned that he

(3:40:34) was considering doing something like that himself but specifically to sell stuff on Amazon so like if we find the right people that have the right markets or that want to buy the products in more bulk I think something like that could certainly be more viable maybe maybe eventually like start like group buying stuff in the server to resell with higher amounts I think something like that could be interesting yeah absolutely give people the opportunity to get stuff and cash out quickly and also other people to be able to buy

(3:41:06) larger quantities and resell them yeah it would definitely help especially if you're there's a um a certain item that you want to sell but you're unable to navigate the purchasing limits and so if you have the combined um you know purchasing power of of people in the server to get the units that you want then that certainly would help I mean there's the issue of competition and whatever but uh um yeah I it comes out to trust and payment and all that fun stuff too right of course of course that's a lot of cash flow bases too like

(3:41:43) a lot of these cash out service take about 10 days to pay you out right so they're also leveraging their cash flow if you ask me for any seller that would be their first thing is like okay they're paying they're obviously not paying by cards so they're probably paying you direct debit so hey you know that's part of the factor yeah but if you consider buying something and buying it and listing on eBay and waiting for it to sell or buying something pack packing sending to Amazon I mean cash flow is probably coming back to you

(3:42:12) still even quicker that way all yeah but like where the things like this get very interesting is when you have people that are able to do also like Bing and stuff as well and get a lot more units that's where be Things become very interesting oh yeah yeah I remember back in the day oh sorry no I just to say it would help with too with um all the uh you know saving you the extra steps of having to register for new cars and J your address and use VPN and all that kind of stuff to get around OA purchasing limits right

(3:42:48) which can be really [ __ ] exhausting 100% what were you gonna say there Nick oh just back in the day when before I even got into Amazon like years and years ago I remember seeing on Twitter all the people you know botting the Supreme drops and like Yeezy drops when Yeezys were big back then like literally people getting like 400 pairs of Yeezys on a drop right and like they would flip them for like $400 profit each is insane yeah yeah I I know a friend of mine who had a full-time job at Roger is in communication and him and both his

(3:43:25) girlfriend really both quit their full-time jobs they have like a full-on degree and just flip sneakers like she has a sneaker Instagram and that's all they do they just have a couple of good Bots and that's why they make a living Drive Ben's own a house I'm like okay yeah it's a big business I was like interested it in it in the past when I was like 19 and yeah like sneakers even today are still very viable I think the business model has changed a lot like prior years there was a lot of hype a lot of stuff resold for ridiculous prices now it just

(3:44:01) seems like it'd be a lot more selective with a stock and there's generally like less stuff available that's why we see some guys come in here that come from the sneaker world like their sneaker heads and they're getting to Amazon like Vin our ACO provider he comes from Sneakers but he got into Amazon because he wanted something that was more stable makes sense yeah I don't know like for me even like I think the Amazon World benefit of it is obviously just you sell stuff in and it sells and it sells right I find eBay that way it's

(3:44:31) like hey you're relisting or you're updating your price or whatever and you have your labels and stuff like that way even even though stockx takes a bigger fee I prefer listening things on stockx CU it's just on there and you know once it's they give you a label and you just print it and you send it right it's convenience factor I guess make it a listed on eBay isn't that bad dude you can almost copy over all your info the only thing that you really have to do is like add pictures yeah uh those uh I think that special

(3:45:04) edition Lincoln Park album that I called out I think yesterday I had bought some of those yesterday and make a list on eBay took like a minute fair enough didy to push more on stockx like I mean they sometimes have those seller free days and stuff so it's not too bad like list is the astrobot controllers like I have two of them y uh I've list on stockx as well as what I'm supposed to do eBay I haven't done it yet but sure what were you gonna say there Evan no I just wonder if you heard the the new single of [Music]

(3:45:41) the I I have heard with the new singer yes I think she's pretty decent uh there's know a lot of controversy around it but I think maybe a lot of people are pissed off because she is singing Chester songs but I mean it is what it is yeah I mean that's what uh I mean obviously he never sang the the the new uh single but I have to admit I was a um when I was streaming the the performance the other day I was a little bit uh uncomfortable with the fact that she was singing his songs I mean she has a great voice but I still don't think she and

(3:46:21) she has the grunge element that that he had in his but I don't think she has the vocal range that he that he did yeah I'm I'm certainly like not by any means like a diard Lincoln Park Fan I grew up with them I certainly like them I'm not like a super fan or anything so I can't really give a good opinion but uh I don't know like I'm mixed like with some bands like they they really for the lack of better words die with the specific people that are in them like Nirvana would not have existed without Kurt gobain if somebody tried to

(3:46:55) reboot that like that just wouldn't work some of it like obviously like there's space for like a band but maybe they should have done like more of a spin-off I don't really know it's it's hard with singers um I think it's easier when you swap out say drummers and guitarists and so on I mean there are certainly exceptions to that but with lead singers it's much more difficult especially when you have somebody with um such tremendous vocal range and a very distinctive voice like I couldn't even imagine what you know

(3:47:25) something like Black Sabbath would sound without aie yeah like some of them like that or like a really good example also like Red Hot Chili Peppers like good luck replacing that because like Anthony has a very distinctive voice right like that's part of their sound so but yeah like with certain things like obious like guitars like you can't replace slash and stuff like that you can't replace um certain drummers you can't replace certain bass players like you can't replace flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers it just wouldn't

(3:48:04) work but yeah I heard that uh apparently she from the headlines that I see I didn't look into it at all but apparently she's a a gung-ho Scientologist well it's like everybody else in Hollywood for some reason I don't know if it's true that's just a headline that I saw so you know that she's a little bit crazy yeah never thought that the works of Science Fiction would transform into a religion but okay have you ever heard of the Church of the uh Flying Spaghetti Monster Ross or pastafarians uh yep I have I actually um it was one

(3:48:49) of the um well it was in a a part of a course or component of a course in which I had enrolled in the university on religions and Cults so the the preoccupation of the course or the focus of the course as per the name of it was to distinguish between religions and Cults and it was actually pretty difficult to distinguish the two by the end of the course but I think that's pretty that's like any University course for that matter have a good night Drew if you're taking off but yeah I saw like quite a few all right good night guys have a good

(3:49:20) one good night I saw like many many years ago when uh that thing was happening with the pastafarians with them wearing uh cers on their heads I thought that I thought that was just hilarious speaking of music I saw in your setup picture you have a few biggie posters or paintings I'm assuming you're a big biggie fan I am I do nice stuff are you a big fan of like 90s hip-hop in particular I am yes very nice me too and a lot of uh even like I wouldn't say it's modern day but like more modern hip-hop is what I grew up with so yes

(3:50:07) such as well I like like things like atmosphere brother all Le okay I I like things like old snow goons I like things like Lord lus I like things like let's open up my Spotify playlist and we'll look I have a very diverse range of artists and songs that I like uh one recently I wouldn't really consider him kind of hip-hop his name is Matt Citron I like some of his songs uh what do we have in my list here from Recently modern day I like action Bron okay yeah I like mind flip I like for Canadian I like snacked Ripper I like

(3:50:51) mercules I like Evil Ebenezer okay I like KO I like uh what's his what's his name thousand miles away what the hell is his name uh Quake Canadian hip hop okay uh you're really into it yeah modern day more Stu I like Chris Webby uh easy mac Canadian he makes some really [ __ ] up music uh yeah all kinds of stuff sunreal for Canadian hip hop I like him how about yourself awesome um so like you know big big 90s fan like all the classics you know like Wen tribe gangar like all those guys right um and then for modern day I guess

(3:51:45) are you know like I have a pretty wide range too like I like stuff from you know the more rugged and like gangster stuff like uh Griselda and stuff and I don't know if you're familiar with them um but then you know all stuff from like Joey Badass to like Kendrick and stuff of course right but my heart and soul like what got me into was like 90s hip-hop like the Golden Era yeah I agree grew up on a lot of that stuff yeah and then I grew up with a lot of uh Angry un underground stuff so like you're right me too MF Doom and stuff yeah a lot of

(3:52:24) Immortal Technique and necro right right Jedi Mind Tricks and stuff yeah Vinnie pas of course yeah yeah's still kicking around today yeah yeah Army of the Pharaohs apathy yeah that's awesome yeah was that was my stuff but I like I like a wide variety of Music uh but yes I've always been very much so very into hip-hop nice but yeah I'm trying to expand to expand my pal a bit more right like I grew up a lot you know like into that stuff and a lot of like EDM and stuff too right like you know growing up in high school like really

(3:53:08) into dubstep and stuff all that yeah yeah not so much these days but then I grew up you know some R&B and stuff too I grew up a bunch I grew up around a bunch of dirty dirty ghetto kids so it just kind of came with [Laughter] it stab you with a screwdriver kind of thing oh yeah as say with the rusty screwdriver funny but not funny um my cousin actually got stabbed with a screwdriver oh Jesus Christ dude coming out of coming out of an off sale like oh God you guys are ghetto that's crazy people are so stupid yeah so there's a gang scene in

(3:53:54) saskatch one yeah a lot of uh a lot of Aboriginal gangs that's that's very rampid around here it's gotten like a lot better in like probably the last decade or so uh when I was in elementary school and high school there was like a lot of like really small clicks gangs that hang around everywhere like you have like your Indian posies and your terrorist Squad and little things that call themselves like baby blues and stuff like that and like most of them like were pretty like just real ghetto and just real real

(3:54:30) dicks to people around their neighborhood and cause [ __ ] unnecessarily but in like recent years it's obviously still exists but that's not really you don't really see it a whole lot anymore is kind of interesting because you think that with the the cost of living becoming increasingly unaffordable that you would see more of that kind of activity I think you see like General crime but like I think around here like a lot of the gang stuff is controlled because as far as I'm aware uh the only real street gang that

(3:55:02) exists around here anymore is Terror Squad and they're very connected with Hell's Angels so they keep things to themselves more or less right so the less conspicuous variety yeah don't get me wrong if you see those people you definitely know but yeah yeah I have uh I grew up around a lot of gang culture uh Associates so I'm was I'm not in that world but I'm very familiar with that world unfortunately anybody like The Black Keys uh yeah I enjoy The Black Keys back in the day but their new stuff seems kind of strange but I enjoy The Black

(3:56:01) Keys were you gonna say something else Evan or Nick no no I just I I've never heard of that is was that um is that a hip-hop group The Black Keys they're kind of like kind of like ack Funk kind of if you like good music listen to some of their song you've probably heard some their songs like some of their hits were on like a lot of movies and [ __ ] yeah you probably have they're pretty big but uh yeah I probably know the music but not the name I'm it's it's hard for me cuz I'm more of like a a classic rock metal kind of person so if you like good

(3:56:37) music you you'll like some of their Classics yeah I'm pretty mainstream like um anything from uh lead zeppin to um you know Nirvana grunge Lincoln Park um even probably the more extreme would be like Marilyn Manson you'll probably you'll probably like them then definitely partake Marilyn Manson got really uh really weird over the years he's gotten like uh he's like always been like very like strange and stuff but now he just looks like an old man D bought well he's actually um he like many musicians uh got really heavy into

(3:57:21) drugs and put on a b put on a bunch put a bunch of weight but he released um um new singles and a new album is forthcoming he looks a lot better now um in fact the the first uh single that he released um I think it's called a sick as the secrets within it's a really sad song about his um descent into drug use um but it sounds much more like him than or much more like the Manson of the 9s um so I think he is slowly making a comeback I think for a lot of music not always but for a lot of artists and it's very unfortunate to say but I think

(3:58:03) their [ __ ] up lives and substance abuse really makes their music like I used to be when I was a kid a huge Eminem fan he made real real real music it was very much authentic it was driven by drugs ever since he got off drugs I have not liked his music and it was directly correlated with one another as sad as that sounds you're speaking facts right now yeah because what you're what you're what you're seeing whether you realize it or not regardless of what musician is is is their their struggle with Fame a lot of people um a lot of people desire

(3:58:39) Fame but if you actually look at the people who have it it's the last thing that they want yeah and I think it [ __ ] with most of them negatively so it doesn't it no longer makes them authentic and what I what I liked about early Eminem he was as [ __ ] up as he was he was very himself and very authentic and he made real good music and ever since he's been off of drugs and thinking straight his music has not been as good in my opinion and I think it's also the hunger of not being successful as well that plays the

(3:59:11) role into it I feel like once you've kind of quote unquote made it it's like you don't feel like you have to try as hard right or your your mental state just changes definitely and that's why it's very interesting to see some artists that blow up and they never change and they're always good actually it's interesting now in um in uh university courses especially specifically those that are um targeted towards more modern poetry um some of Eminem's music for the early '90s is actually uh set as a as a case study for

(3:59:48) poetry and music well yeah I mean he made really really good really dark songs and with a lot of meaning and he was very lyrically talented like nobody yeah but I mean it's very very Progressive for even universities to to do that because typically anything mainstream is is not even an object of discussion especially where music is concerned right I guess now though he's considered uh considered vintage because it's been you know 20 30 years so now it's now it's time for them to analyze well he's still he's still

(4:00:22) releasing music like and some of some of the newer stuff he released at least within the last 5 years is not too bad true um like yeah I remember in high school um not sure if anybody here is familiar too much with Mortal technique but relatively I am Dance with the Devil and stuff yeah so is that more yeah yeah so some he has some relatively hard hipop and very he's very like political um has a song called Peruvian cocaine where they talk about the wraps about the entire process of how cocaine comes from Colombia basically driven by slave labor

(4:01:02) Etc but very hard very rugged uh a friend of mine and myself in one of my English classes in like grade 11 or grade 12 we were doing some type of I remember remember what it was for it was some type of analysis report I don't know if we had to do it specifically for songs but we did and we chose that song so our report was basically going up in the front of class playing this song for everybody as really rugged and then talking about it so that was very interesting yeah just sitting up there as a songs playing your teachers just

(4:01:41) like looking at you like like what the [ __ ] what's wrong with this guy oh she was like a pretty Progressive teacher so it was uh I think it was okay but At first she was like what the [ __ ] is this yeah yeah uh are you familiar with Winnipeg's most no they had some good hip-hop out of Winnipeg probably like 10ish years ago I don't think they're around anymore but they have some good songs nice would highly recommend you partake nice yeah you know you know a lot especially like the newer underground stuff like I fell out of the

(4:02:32) loop of music just like I just listen to stuff that is like almost Comfort to me now like the stuff that I already know I like it's I haven't been exploring too much I've always went down like quite a few rapid holes of music cuz like that's something that I've really enjoyed my entire life um but like for the longest time I've always been a cheap ass so I would never I I never had Spotify until like I don't know probably like a year and a half two years ago I refuse to pay for it and I refuse to listen to ads have a good

(4:03:12) night Evan um I refused to listen to ads and pay for it so my expansion of Music taste was very limited for a while but then I finally decided to get Spotify and gave you the capability of going down different playlists and similar songs and I found so much music doing that I was very sad that I didn't do it sooner have a good night Jaden yeah that's a big one Spotify is really good with that just kind of introducing you to new stuff yeah and like not even like going into songs that are not like they're not like super

(4:03:51) underground or anything relatively popular but gting a lot of recommendations for stuff that I would have never found somewhere else like that guy Matt Citron that I found recently like I don't know he has like a couple thousand followers on Spotify I would have never found him previously so he has like 13,000 monthly listeners I like I would have never found his music otherwise yeah yep YouTube used to be really good with that too like I found a lot of hidden gems with just like the recommended videos sometimes they'll pop

(4:04:24) up and I'm like yeah I'll check this out and then it ends up being really good I found they were better before for that now yeah they give you like the same recommendations for songs over and over again I agree yeah before used to be a lot better yeah the algorithm changed up or something