April 25, 2025; Botting Introduction & Q&A

Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsoYmVq0SXU

Video Summary

Key Insights:

Introduction to Botting 👋 Vinh provided a comprehensive session on botting, discussing its relevance and effectiveness, particularly for sneaker and retail drops. 📈 The session aimed to educate both new users and those returning to botting after a break.

Types of Bots and Recommendations 🤖 Different types of bots were discussed, including retail bots like Stellar and Hayha, and Shopify-focused bots like Cyber and Valor. 🌟 Stellar was highlighted as a cost-effective option with a monthly fee of $35, suitable for Canadian retailers like Best Buy and Walmart.

Bot Insights and Performance 🔄 Stellar is known for its consistent updates and beginner-friendly interface, making it a top choice for newcomers. 🏷️ For Shopify sneaker bots, Valor was noted for its two-instance feature, allowing users to run tasks on two different machines simultaneously.

Using Proxies and Servers 🕵️ Proxies, particularly residential ones, are essential for retailers like Walmart and Pokemon Center to avoid bans during checkout. ⚙️ Different types of proxies (ISP vs. residential) have varying costs and uses; ISP proxies are faster, while residential proxies offer more flexibility.

Setting Up Tasks and Captchas 📝 Setting up profiles in bots is crucial for organizing checkout attempts; each profile should have unique billing details. 🛡️ Captchas can be handled manually or using capture-solving services; Vinh discussed using Google accounts for automated capture solving.

Market Trends and Timing 📅 Botting effectiveness can vary based on market trends and the types of products being released; Vinh emphasized timing tasks just before drops. 📈 He also suggested utilizing monitors and tools for getting early links to maximize success during drops.

Community Benefits and Resources 🤝 The importance of engaging in community forums for shared knowledge and tips on botting was underscored. 📚 Vinh recommended reviewing guides available in their resource sections for further education on botting.

Actionable Summary: 📝 For newcomers, starting with Stellar for retail drops is advisable as it offers a user-friendly experience at a low cost. 🔄 Utilize residential proxies to maintain access to high-demand items while ensuring profiles represent unique identities. 📅 Timing and preparation are key—set up tasks at least 30 seconds before drops and familiarize yourself with the botting process. 🤝 Engage within community servers for ongoing tips, updates, and the opportunity to join group buys for better pricing on bots and proxies.

Thought-Provoking Ideas: 💡 Consider the long-term profitability of botting against its costs; maintain awareness of market demands to avoid unnecessary expenses. 🤔 Reflect on the learning curve of botting; expect trial and error initially, but use resources and community support to improve your strategies.

Timestamped Summary

[00:00-02:30] The session introduces Vinh, an in-house authority on auto checkout and botting, who shares his insights on botting tools and strategies as well as a Q&A segment.

[02:30-04:50] Vinh discusses the current bot options available, including Stellar and Hayha for retailer bots, and Cyber and Velour for Shopify sneaker bots, comparing their performance and costs.

[04:50-07:00] Detailed insights on Stellar highlight its affordability and consistent performance across popular Canadian retailers, deeming it beginner-friendly.

[07:00-09:10] Vinh briefly reviews Hayha, noting it has less proven success for users and is more US-oriented, recommending Stellar instead.

[09:10-11:30] In Shopify botting, he points out that Cyber and Velour are quite similar but differ in pricing and instance flexibility, advising caution due to the lack of recent sneaker releases.

[11:30-14:40] Group buys for bots are mentioned, emphasizing the opportunity to acquire Stellar at a discounted price, while questioning the success of certain bots in the current market.

[14:40-18:10] Vinh provides a live demo of Stellar, explaining how to set up and configure the bot, manage accounts, and the necessity of utilizing Discord for webhook integration.

[18:10-20:00] Discussion includes the importance of using proxies, defining what they are, and the types (ISP vs. residential) suitable for various sites like Walmart and Pokemon Center.

[20:00-23:30] The segment covers the significance of unique card information per profile to avoid cancellations during checkouts and general best practices for running multiple tasks efficiently.

[23:30-26:50] Address jigging is introduced as a strategy to modify address details without alerting retailers, enhancing the chances of successful checkouts.

[26:50-30:00] Clarification on the use of individual vs multiple instances for botting, alongside insights about server usage and its impact on performance.

[30:00-32:30] Vinh elaborates on the ongoing necessity of adapting to new strategies as websites change their processes, advising botters to stay tuned to the latest information.

[32:30-35:50] Further discussion about Walmart checkouts indicates that the bot functions optimally when set up correctly and reiterated the importance of maintaining unique profiles.

[35:50-38:10] The session covers FAQ related to best practices when attending drops and maximizing utility through group pricing and community support.

[38:10-40:40] Final thoughts are shared on botting's unpredictable nature, where success varies and complex setups may yield better results, emphasizing learning by doing.

[40:40-43:00] Vinh wraps up the session by mentioning future live cop demonstrations planned for different drops, reinforcing community engagement.

[43:00-45:00] The discussion concludes with appreciation from participants, emphasizing continued learning and application of botting strategies in the current market context.

Video Transcript

(00:00) Okay, Vinh, if whenever you want, we can get started. Uh, we have a good handful of people in here now, and I'm assuming that even more people will pop in here probably within a couple minutes. So, if you want to get started now, we certainly can. Perfect. Um, oh [ __ ] Give me a moment. No problem. But for those that are just popping in here, uh we are going to be doing a session with QMTL or Vinh.

(00:46) He is he has been our in-house aco or auto checkout provider for quite some time. A lot of people have had really good success with him and he's going to go over uh his knowledge about botting, how how you can get into it, what kind of tools you need, and then we'll probably do a bit of a Q&A afterwards as well. So, it should be really good, really informative, especially for those that have not botted at all or have not botted for quite some time.

(01:20) Just let us know when you're ready, Vinh. Did we lose you? Maybe. I think we lost them. It'll be just a moment. All right, you're all good now. Yes. Beautiful. So, he is sharing his screen. So, just make sure you hover over his name in the voice chat and click view stream. and then you'll be able to view his screen here and see what's going on.

(02:18) So, thank you everyone for coming. So, today's goal is simple. We're going to go over what bots are active right now, what they're good at, and how to start botting. I'll show a quick demo and we'll end with a live Q&A and hopefully we can see some of you guys start cooking on the upcoming releases. Yeah.

(02:44) So, first thing first, there's different types of bots that there there's the retailer bots and Shopify focused bots. So, the retailer focused BS that are currently active are Stellar and Heiha. So, I will explain in a moment which is best and which is worth purchase. for the Shopify sneaker bots that are currently active and accessible for the public is cyber and velour.

(03:12) I will say they're pretty much the same in terms of performance but there's option that can influence you to buy one over the other. Sorry. So like pricing, site support, number of instances that is available and general preference per reference like the UI. So we'll start with the retail focus bot. So Stellar and Hayha.

(03:44) So, first off, I personally think that Stella is the best bang for your buck for only 35 a month and no initial fees, which I think a lot of but charge initial fees. I think it's a no-brainer. So, yeah. So, works pretty consistently on all Canadian retailers like Best Buy, Walmart, Pokemon Center, Costco, and Amazon.

(04:12) So this yeah so also the devs keep updating the butt often so making sure the software stays up to date and you can see that prove their consistent success on jobs and lastly the b the bot is pretty beginner friendly I think so that's for stellar for hayha I think is as for hayha I cannot really speak on their success if it has been doing well since I don't own the bot anymore.

(04:44) But what I can say it's it's more US focused bot. So yes, there's Canadian sides, but you're better off just investing on Stella which is cheaper and perform the same or even better. So we will move on to the Shopify synd like there's much sneaker releases but still it's also worth to mention that it works on procs and New Balance Canada.

(05:30) The renewal the renewal fees if price didn't change I believe it's £50 that equals to around $90 Canadian. As for Valor also performs well on Shopify and foot size. One thing to note Valor gives you two instances meaning you can run it on two different machine. So if you have two different computers, you can run it on two different computers.

(05:57) So at the same time, so while cyber only gives you one. So if you need flexibility or if you want to share an instance with a friend, Valor might be a better choice. I think and it's also a bit cheaper with a removal fee of $49.99 USD per month which works out to be around 25 each if you split with someone.

(06:29) But what I think is purchasing any Shopify sneaker bots is not the most wise move now as there hasn't been much releases recently. I I will recommend if you're looking onto to bot not just Canadian website but US too to make your monthly renewal worth it. Otherwise for can only users you're better off waiting or renting when a job is confirmed.

(07:00) Any questions regarding that? So, as Vinh is uh going through some things, I'm also posting some links in the voice chat chat there as well, just in case anybody has um wants a reference for what these bots where to find them and their guides and the websites that they support. And then I also mentioned that we currently have active group buys for both Stellar and Hayha.

(07:22) Um I believe the group buy that we have for Stellar is probably like the cheapest on the market. I've never seen anybody else have one cheaper than what we have. And then we're also working on one for Valor as well. I did try for Cyber Soul, uh, but we weren't able to get approved for that guy.

(07:42) Does anybody have any questions for Vinh so far? Uh, Laz, Cole, Chillin, Coin Drop, you guys want to manage your mute? Somebody has some some audio coming through there. Manage your mute or I'm going to kick you out. It's not me. I'm going to push the talk. Lazarus, you want to manage your mute, please? Or I'mma boot [Music] you. You're getting disconnected.

(08:19) Okay, Ben, you can carry on. Perfect. So, just to summarize, if you're new to potting, I recommend starting with stutter. It's great for learning the basics and if you don't want to miss out on the Pokemon releases, which are I think the most profitable at the moment, then once you get the hang of it and want to branch out, you can start exploring other bots based on what sites you want to target.

(08:44) I had a quick question for you, Ben. Yes. Uh, what have you been hearing for Stellar compared to Refract and success for Pokemon Center? Personally, I didn't check ST and Refract, but I don't see much success in for CA especially. Okay. For sure. Yeah. Cool. So, okay. So, I'll open my screen. Everyone can see my [Music] screen.

(09:25) All right. Give me a moment. All right. Okay. We'll begin with Stellar. So, so that may look overwhelming for the people that are new to Bing, but we'll go ahead and go on settings and we'll see all the section is already cut you off. Is there any way to make it a little bit bigger? [Music] Well, yeah, we see part uh part your internet browser, part stellar.

(10:12) Would you be able to make stellar full screen? All right. Um, full screen. We see half is like your internet browser, half is stellar. I'll go now. Uh, it looks like we just see Stellar now. Yes. Perfect. So, all right. So, don't need to use all of this. So, you you see all this. What you really want is Discord.

(10:57) You go you go to Discord [ __ ] So, remove this. So what you you want to do is you go to Disco web hook and add your web hook. So that's going to make sure wait while Vinh is doing something back in there. For anybody that's unfamiliar with web hooks, the reason um with what that would be is you can easily set up your own Discord server just by like adding a server on Discord.

(11:33) And then when you go into the channel settings, there's a section in there called integrations. And then you can uh on the integration channel settings, you can add something called a web hook. So you can produce a web hook that you can then integrate into Stellar and then that will monitor your checkouts for you. So, oh, it looks like you ended your stream there, Vinh.

(12:04) We're here. You're here. You're going to Oh, [ __ ] You going to create a add a server. Create my own for me and friends. Can name it whatever you want. So we'll name it ACO. So once this is done, go on general permissions integrations a web hook. You can name it and copy URL. Once this is done, you can save and then you paste it on start and you work like that. All right.

(12:56) So once this is done, we'll go over your identities. So that's your account sessions. That's your sessions. That's your accounts. So you want to go ahead and add your account. So you can go add session. You'll add your You can do it manually or you can import it. So we'll do it manually. So let's say whatever you want it. So and so could you clarify with this when you say sessions? So you're meaning like each individual kind of account that you're wanting to run. Correct. Correct.

(13:33) So for Walmart you account is required. So you'll have to add it manually or you can import it. So same thing for Best Buy same. No Best Buy I don't think it's required but for GameStop and Amazon. So yeah for everything Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Yes. Yes. Go ahead. I was just going to mention um just for like everything that you're running like so if you're wanting to run multiple profiles on Walmart with multiple cards, multiple addresses, you would add a separate session for each and every one.

(14:09) Exactly. You don't want to run the same the same card on multiple profile but multiple accounts. You you want to keep one card per pro per email per um per account pretty much. proxies. You go to Walmart. Let's add an account. So, we'll do a random hot mail. So, we'll do like that.

(14:39) Um, and so I also imagine that a lot of people in this session here are also very uh intermediate, maybe not know anything about botting. So, could you also explain what a proxy is and when we would need proxies and when we would not need proxies? So proxies. So there is two type of proxies. There is the ISP proxies and residential proxies.

(15:04) For ISP, you will use it on Shopify mostly Shopify. When there's proxy protection, ISP won't work. So you have to run residential. For residential proxies, it's recommended to use it on Pokemon Center foot locker on on the sites that are really strict, meaning use proxy protection or that that alone. And for those unfamiliar, proxies, they are essentially almost acting like a separate computer or internet connection for yourself. Correct.

(15:43) Yes, correct. Okay. And then so what is like the main difference between an ISP proxy and a residential proxy? Like what what is the actual difference between those two? Is it just the proxy protection? I speeds are much faster but they get clipped. Once they get clipped they get clipped. While residentials you can generate thousand of proxies and once they get clear that it's okay because you have thousand of proxies you can generate thousand and thousand if it makes sense. Gotcha.

(16:26) And so different obviously like different proxy providers provide different types of proxies and they're also different costs. Correct. So like what's like a standard cost for like ISP proxies and what's the standard cost for residential proxies? Usually ISPs cost between 1 to 1.5 depending on the if it's premium. But for residentials it's it's based on data.

(16:55) So let's say 10 GB of data it's $50 depending on what what you want to run. Like there's different types of residentials too. There's there's packet proxies I believe packet and there's different type of proxies. Some are good, some are better, some are yes and so once this is done you go ahead and add your profiles.

(17:33) So you can add your profiles or you can import them. You'll go ahead once this is done. So we'll do a random one right now. So say profile one. You'll add your email. So say hotmail up phone number. Same thing. First name profile. And so what Vinh is doing here, he's adding profile information about like the actual person and the billing and uh payment information when you're going to check out.

(18:30) This is where you enter that information in Stellar. And so obviously if you want multiple different names and accounts um or names and addresses, you would have multiple profiles in this category. And that's so that you have you're able to secure more units and and or have a higher chance of success as well. So with regards to proxies, uh I'm familiar with res's and ISPs but uh rotating residentials and static I forgot which one which are more commonly used for retail drops.

(19:15) So I personally use static but rotating is it will change your IP. So it means so let's say you're going to run and this one it will change it automatically while static it will stay the same. So but usually you use static for retailers work just fine. What what are rotating used for? Usually you can run it on Shopify and Foot Locker. Yeah. Gotcha.

(19:46) And so also to clarify, Vinh, um are proxies always required? Like say if somebody just wants to run like one profile on just say like Walmart for one drop, do they still should they still be using proxies in that case? For for Walmart, I would say residential is a must. the shop for Shopify it's okay if you run local like three tasks but Walmart they're more strict so it will get banned even if you run only one task so it's best to have high speeds and residentials for Walmart sames for Pokemon center and so for everybody that's in here

(20:29) every website is going to be a little bit different on what kind of requirements are depending on how many profiles you're running if to run it locally, etc. So, if you ever have any questions, you can always uh p or ping Vinh and he can give you a recommendation based on your personal setup that you have as well if you need pro if you need proxies and what type of proxies you should be utilizing.

(20:53) You got a good question. Yes. Um, can you have the same card on different profiles? No, you you cannot. So, one profile is unique to Yes. A unique card for each profile. Exactly. One profile has to be unique. So, to get ex for, for example, you go to Shopify, they'll you they'll get clipped if you have the same card, right? And so Kwami, a lot of that will also have to do uh individually with the websites uh on how things operate.

(21:37) So like for example with Walmart, if you're running one profile, you can attempt to do checkouts back to back to back to back on the same profile because Walmart's not known to cancel orders, right? And so it's okay it's okay utilizing the same cards in those scenarios, but different retailers will have different requirements.

(21:54) Like if you try to do that same thing on Pokemon Center for example, uh they're probably link your accounts and because it's only one or two one or two units, then they'll probably cancel your orders. Okay. So, do virtual cards work for most websites? Yes. I don't believe like there's any websites that specifically clip virtual cards as far as I'm aware.

(22:17) Okay, got it. Okay. added profile. Well, what about jigging? Uh, so as long as you jig, I'm assuming you would jig the same profile, right, for certain sites and then some sites probably don't accept jigs. For Walmart, I recommend to not jig. Keep your profiles as is. For Pokemon Center, you will need to jig if you want to hit on the same address.

(22:51) So I personally just add three letters three random letters and on the address. So so let's say this my address is that street avenue. So what you want to do is just add random letters like this on every each profile you won't you won't need to jig. So same thing. So this second profile add random letter like like so.

(23:30) And for those unaware of what address jigging is, it's just essentially slightly modifying your address so that when retailers when you're putting orders through that they don't catch it and cancel your account, but it's still similar enough to your existing address, but it'll still show up to your address.

(23:48) So, every retailer is a little bit different on how well they catch things. A lot of big companies, they don't catch things very easily. like Vinh mentioned with Pokemon Center, he just takes his address, adds free random letters in the front and it works. Whereas if you try to do that on some other sites or like some like really like small m mom and pop shits, um they're more prone to catch those types of things.

(24:10) So you you'll either have to get more unique with your address or you'll have to use completely different addresses. And I also posted a guide in the voice chat chat that we have on what address trading is and how to do it. Also, while you're filling that in, do you utilize servers? I do. Um, you just one just one.

(24:42) I just one and yeah, that's it. So, can see here, but it's not needed. Especially if you're a beginner, don't need a server. If your computer is slow, then maybe you need but for only one butt you can run it on a regular machine. I'm assuming your location matters too, right? Cuz which is why a lot of the servers are in the east coast.

(25:08) So like if someone's living in the west coast, would it be beneficial for them to have a server even if their computer is beefy and they have good internet? I I don't think it's it matter but maybe the speed there's a speed discrepancy but yeah that's about it that's really for the speed mainly and for those that are here as well that are asking you know what the hell is a server a server is basically like you're renting almost like a different computer and internet connection where like it's kind of like a virtual machine but it's hosted at like a

(25:48) u some somebody like um they have big servers like server farms where you're utilizing their internet connection and their computers essentially and so the purpose of that is to get either like Vinh mentioned about um a more powerful computer so you'll be able to check out quicker and a quicker internet connection.

(26:10) I've heard of experiences where people specifically try to get servers closer to the places that are doing their drops so that they're pinging those websites quicker. Uh but that's getting really really deep into it and when you're first getting started with body that's definitely something that you don't need to concern yourself with.

(26:34) I did also post some information from our botting guide about servers in the voice chat chat as well in case you want to know about them. I will post the links that are supposed to be included with those guys as well below. Perfect. So once it's done, you go you want to go to task. You select your site.

(27:00) So we'll select Pokemon center here. Add your group name. So ACL for example, create task. You have start, stop, edit, and delete all. We'll go ahead and click on scrape task. Set your mode. So there's three modes. So there's guest and guess fast. What's going on, guys? Both both are the same. Pretty much the same.

(27:30) And monitor you don't need to touch this then because the model is locked. So you won't be able to run till something is live. So you don't need to touch this. We'll pick fast. You want to select your profile. So let's select this one. Proxies. Usually you stick with residentials on Pokemon drop Pokemon center region we'll select Canada the URL and P ID so the URL is for example this we'll take this link the URL is this link we'll go ahead and copy and paste the P ID is this number at the end can select You you want to sign coupon you can leave it as is delay usually I do

(28:27) 200 quantity you can leave it to 99 that's all you don't need to touch this same thing for NS mode and endless limit so you need a full URL and then the P ID separately or you take the the URL without the P ID and put the P ID in the P section. So it's either you this is the full link or like this like so with the P or only the P like so. Okay. Okay.

(29:08) So quantity 99 you can leave it at 99. it will adjust to the max quantity. So let's say the max quantity is four. It will adjust accordingly. Same thing is apply for Walmart Canada. So and let's move and let's leave it as is. So 3DS same thing start time. If you know when it'll drop, you can select but you can leave it as is.

(29:36) Quantity can five. Let's say six. And usually it create that since I didn't make a profile [Music] didn't. And so keep in mind that while you're adding profiles, you'll also want unique emails and credit cards. Like I mentioned previously, um we're basically trying to do everything that we can to not tell the retailer that we're the same person so that we avoid higher chances of getting cancelled.

(30:23) And depending on the website, uh some websites will accept like a catchall email. Some are more prone to catch those types of emails. So you might need to use like unique Gmails or Hotmails, etc. And if you're ever unsure about what you should attempt to utilize, you can always ask and then everybody in the server that does bot can give you their experiences as well.

(30:50) [Music] I think uh I don't know if at least back when I used to bot standard is still like age Gmails, right? Can you repeat again? For emails, the gold standard is still age Gmail accounts, right? For the gold standard, HGmail. Yeah. Is that true? No. And it's that's that's wrong. So, correct me if I'm wrong, Vinh, but with when people talk about getting age Gmail accounts, a lot of that has to do with the captures that are potentially presented to yourself. Correct.

(31:34) Yes. Yeah. So, like a lot of websites, uh, they'll have captures that pop up like those little, you know, scroll here or highlight this little picture or do a puzzle piece. And if you have Gmails that have activity on them and they're aged, you're more likely to either get less captas or less complicated captures.

(31:57) Uh whereas if you have like brand new Gmail accounts or Gmails that are never used, you're typically prone to have more captas or ones that are more complicated. So which email provider or you recommend we use or is it dependent on the store? You can can generate some some you can do it manually. You can I personally use my own email.

(32:25) I go on Hotmail and just do it manually. Yeah. Yeah. And so for if you're talking Okay, go ahead. Oh, no. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. Go ahead. If you're talking about Pokemon Center, email doesn't matter. It's it's mainly you want some solid jigging. So meaning three letters in front of your address. That's it. Simple as it.

(32:50) Yeah. And so when you talk about like getting deep down the rabbit hole with Gmails and whatnot, like that's when you start getting like really really deep into botting and going on specific websites, most websites like Vid mentioned, especially when you're first getting started like your Pokemon centers, your Walmarts, etc.

(33:06) They are very basic and you don't really need to do a whole lot. And like if you're wanting to just want one one or two profiles, you can just use your regular email and you shouldn't have any issues. And so Ben, while we're here, uh Miko here had a question in the chat. He mentioned when you hit a pre-order and the page is not up yet, like assuming on Pokemon Center, uh do we have any tricks to find this specific product ID to help set up your task? So, this would be for unknown drops that are happening with Pokemon Center or ones that we're not

(33:40) sure of. Give me a moment. So, what I usually do is I go on task. So let's say you're you're here. What I usually do is I already edit my task. So if I'm not sure that is the correct product, I I will stop my task edit and masking change. So meaning so let's say this one job and create and save and then you start test.

(34:36) Yeah, it's pretty simple. And what happens if we don't have a link or the product ID is are we able to still monitor and cop these drops? No, you cannot. You you need to have the URL op. Yes. So, yeah, that's why it's like also important as well, like if you are waiting for some of these drops to watch some of the channels.

(35:07) Uh I know if you have Stellar and you're in Stellar's Discord server, they often uh do really good jobs with scraping the links early. So, you'll typically be able to get those URLs pretty early and then we get them as quick as we can as well. And we always share them uh as soon as we're able to. But with most Pokemon Center drops, um, besides ones that haven't, like if they've never hit, uh, we typically have product IDs for most products.

(35:50) So, like if there's ones that you're wanting to set up in advance, just let us know when we probably have them. Um, depending on the drop, like sometimes they will drop in like say like the UK first. Uh, recently they've been dropping at the same time as North America, but sometimes like previously they were dropping in the UK first and their exact same product ID.

(36:10) So, we just have to edit the URL to be the Canadian one versus the UK version, right? And we constantly have our monitors scraping Pokemon Center for all new drops. So if you look in like the Pokemon category, for example, we have there's a reason why we have a CA scraper, US scraper, Japan scraper, and UK scraper. Japan typically has its own subsection of products, but the UK is shared.

(36:37) And because they're ahead of us, they often get the products before we do. And that's one way we can get those SKs and product IDs. So then it's just setting up another profile here. But yeah, like with anything, if you're ever unsure, always ask. Like if you need product links, if you're unsure what delays to set, what kind of proxies to use, always ask.

(37:37) That's part of why we're here um to help you and ensure that you have the best success that you possibly can. So for example, so let's say huge is dropping. So say you already started this task. You'll go to module disabled. That means the dev didn't enable the module. So once something dropped, usually the task start automatically.

(38:23) So So let's say that there's another product. So you will have to stop, select all, edit, and then you go ahead and press the correct link and then choose your proxies and you start from here. And so, yeah, with Stellar, they typically have the Pokemon Center module disabled because um when they had it previously enabled consistently, uh Pokemon Center was was finding out how they were monitoring their website and they kept changing it.

(38:59) So, they only enable the bot basically when a drop is coming, when they detect a queue, right? Like like similar in the server when we detect Q, that's when they enable it. So once you get notified that queue is coming up, then that's when that's when it's time to make sure that you have everything ready.

(39:19) And so Vinh, uh, Evan's asking, so you create the profiles on say Stellar rather on the rather than on the retailer's website. Is that correct? Right. And so Evan, with your profile in Stellar, so like with your profile, you're inputting your information. So like your name, your credit card information, your address, right? And then you're edit you're adding additional profiles for different addresses that you want.

(39:55) So that's the profiles that you're that's that you're utilizing. That's the ones that it's going to attempt to check out on. Um, websites that require accounts. We haven't touched that yet with Pokemon Center. As far as I'm aware, Vinh, Pokemon Center does not require accounts. Correct. Pokemon does not require accounts.

(40:15) So, we'll go ahead and select Walmart, which Walmart requires an account. So, in this case, go to Walmart. Yeah. And so with what Vinh is setting up is like so essentially it's setting up to do like a guest check out with Pokemon Center. So you're just inputting your information. It's going to attempt to be a guest checkout and you don't have to log into the account.

(40:39) Whereas with Walmart, which he's going to demonstrate shortly, you have to have the actual Walmart account and enter in your details to log into that account. So for Walmart, there's four modes. There's guest, account, monitor, and account jam. So for guest, it's mainly for random products.

(41:01) So usually you won't need to touch this. But account, that's for the hype releases. So like Pokemon drops, everything. Monitor, that's if you want to run 24/7. So you'll run monitor. Account gen is where you're going to create your account. So start with this. Select your profile that you want to run. residential delay and password choose whatever you want.

(41:36) So let's say 0123 catch all if you want to use a catch all can download this one but see I won't and so what Ben did there is he's actually having Stellar create the Walmart accounts for you so that you don't have to do it manually. Yeah, that was my question. So with this one, you didn't you didn't need to have an account on Walmart.

(42:03) You could create an account right from inside the bot. Yes, you you you can do it with the bot or do it manually. So you can so you can add it here. If you do it with the bot, it'll automatically add it here. If you want to add it manually, so add it here. Okay. So once this is done, you'll go ahead and go to select account, save your profile, whichever way you prefer. See is the skew.

(42:35) So the skew on Walmart, it's pretty simple. It's either so let's say this this product. So the skew usually it's at the end. So this is this the skill or if you're not sure you can go ahead and go into specifications and you'll find the skill here. You can copy and paste it on the bot you select your delay.

(43:04) Usually I leave it at 2000 99 session. And so to confirm there, Vinh, while you're adding those products in there, when you're putting a quantity 99, that means that you're attempting to check out 99 products. Correct? No. That that means you it will adjust to the max quantity. For example, this this one max quantity is six.

(43:33) For example, it will adjust to six. It will adjust to the highest quantity. So, in the rare events that there is actually the possibility of checking out 90 products, you will get them, right? Yes, you will get 90 Pokemon. So, yeah, you just want to like with like with anything else, there's a there's a learning curve, right? So, like botting like it's not rocket science, but it takes a little bit of time to learn and to do efficiently.

(44:03) So, you just want to ensure that you're not getting over your head with what you're doing. And like if you don't want 90 of a product, then don't input 90. If you if you have a set limitation, then put that in there. But like a lot of websites will have purchase limits, right? But some don't. So, you just want to take that in consideration.

(44:26) Yeah, got it. As for postal code, since we're not Oh, [ __ ] There's shipping and pickup. That's if you want to pick up. Usually we'll ship the order. So in this case, you don't need to add a post code. Same thing is with pickup radius. Endless mode. You can leave it as is. Same thing for endless limit. Watch that.

(45:06) That's for monitor. We'll go in. We'll go do that later in a moment. So you stop cash back same thing you create. So once this is done you go ahead and for monitor pick up uh usually you stick with ISP but can do both same thing API add to cardart usually I do both maximum price if monitor delay you will leave it at 10,000 for restart for same thing for reset delay and select start time you can leave it as is and create and so here um with that maximum price so with some things like if you know like the

(46:09) price isn't going to really change a whole lot it's fine to leave it blank but if you're unsure or if it's like a website like say like a like a a check your website, which happened recently, is they have the potential to change the price. And if you don't have a max price in there, then it'll try to check out at any price, right? And so there was a situation recently where there was a record that was supposed to be like a 100 bucks and the retailer changed it to 1,200 and it was still checked out, right? So you want to ensure that you

(46:37) just be mindful of that. Otherwise, you might end up being stuck with a product that is too expensive. And there's some retailers that will attempt to um you more so like the hype retailers that will just attempt to release release things with a high price off the hop just to trick bots. And like a a recent example was like a year or two two ago like Jay Baldin released some sneakers and the sneakers were released at $20,000 each, right? So people that didn't have maximum prices input in there were checking out sneakers for 20

(47:08) grand. So those are things that you just want to ensure that you are mindful of when you are doing botting on certain sites. Major retailers like Walmart and stuff, you don't typically have to worry about it, but other boutique shops, you certainly do. Yeah. Well, would it check out on Walmart if it's sold by a third party? So stellar is only check out when the order is shipped by Walmart.

(47:43) So when it doesn't detect third party so you don't need to worry about that. That's for stellar. But yeah those are always good questions to have and considerations that you want to ask when you are setting up a bot especially for a site if you're not familiar with it. So, like say you're setting up a brand new bot for like Amazon and you want to watch certain products, make sure you clarify with that uh with that botting provider if they will uh see or check out third party sellers along with Amazon as well

(48:17) because third party sellers you may obviously want to avoid. So, any question regarding Walmart? So for Walmart accounts when it generates them it uh does it also jig the address? No. And for Walmart you don't need to jig address. You just just Okay. One one um one card per account. So just don't do five five cards on the same card on five accounts, right? So keep one card per account and so or you can you can have multiple accounts with the same address.

(49:10) Is that that's what I was asking. That's fine. Okay. And when you're generating the accounts inside Stellar, it's not actually inputting an address for you. Uh, you're inputting the address on your profile tab on Stellar and you use ISPs for Walmart. On initial you can, but for restocks, residentials are the best, almost reliable.

(49:43) And so, Miko asks in the chat here, if the product stays in stock for a while, will it keep order? So will it keep or ordering in a loop until the product is sold out? Yes, it will. Yeah. So be mindful of that. Yeah. And that's where also max quantities can come in too, right? And if you're wanting to cap yourself out, you want to ensure you utilize max quantities accordingly.

(50:15) And for those that also um if you're wanting to use multiple cards, so like virtual credit cards have always kind of been an issue in Canada. We do have some providers in here. We don't have as many as they have in the US. Um but like we have like the recent call that we did with Vinh, for example.

(50:35) You can generate as many virtual credit cards as you want with them. We're going to be having a um a partnership with another company that's similar called Keep and Keep is completely free and you'll be able to generate as many virtual credit cards as you want with them as well. So there's multiple services that you can utilize in Canada that either cost a small monthly fee or they're even free.

(50:59) So if you do want to explore making many many profiles, you'll also want to explore those options as well. But when you're first just getting started, just try with the credit cards that you have. Uh you don't want to get too deep too quickly because expenses can add up very quickly. If you're trying to go super super deep, just try it out with what you have first.

(51:19) Just limit yourself to, you know, your personal your personal data, maybe one or two accounts. Uh try with some a small amount of proxies, try without proxies, and just slowly build it up from there. Otherwise, you're going to start incurring a lot of expenses before you even know it, before you're even profitable. I got a question. Yes.

(51:47) Uh, how fast does it loop reorder? Like how can we how can we know starting out what we should set the quantity to? So usually so I don't think you mentioned the stop number but so usually just for if you if you're going to run um good drops you just let it run. So in in my case for ACO I just let it run.

(52:29) If it hit like one, two, I will stop the task just in case it Okay. So, you still watch it manually for the most part. Yes. Exactly. Yes. Okay, cool. There are things where you can like obviously set it up and it can be running while you're not at your computer. Like you can run it 247. Um, but if you're just if you're doing that and something comes in stock and you don't have uh limitations in place, then you could just end up getting a lot more units than you're expecting.

(53:08) Yeah. So, no question about Stellar. We'll move on to Eric. Anybody have any questions specifically about Stellar at all? It looks like we have one coming through on the chat here. So, we'll just wait a moment. And again, with everybody that is here, if you haven't used any body before, like a lot of that can seem very overwhelming.

(53:37) Um, and like at first it can be, but once you break it down and like look through the guides that exist, um, Stellar has very good walkthroughs on how to utilize things and then re-watch this video, ask questions, etc. It becomes a lot easier. And it's a lot about just trying it, getting used to it, and repeating, right? With any, like as with anything else, like I mentioned before, there is a learning curve.

(53:59) So does take some time to to be able to use it effectively. Are there any trials at all like before you actually subscribe with most bots? No, I don't believe any have actually like free trials. So like with Stellar for example, we have a group buy in our utility server that uh brings it down to no join fee.

(54:25) uh they don't have a join fee at all and $35 US per month. So you only have to invest the $35 originally. Um you can also rent uh keys or like so you can go on like a website called BotMart and you can rent a key for Stellar and I imagine you can probably do it by the day or by the week for a little bit cheaper.

(54:45) So that's always an option as well if you want to try it out at a cheaper price to begin with. All right, got it. Hey Jordan. Oh yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I just want to make sure that I've concept conceptualize this process, right? So when you open the software stellar, you create your account and there's a particular product that you're wanting to bot.

(55:15) Um so each you create uh a profile and a profile as I if I understand it correctly is a check it constitutes a checkout attempt and for each profile that you create you specify the uh quantity of the item that you want purchased for a retail retailer and say it's you create uh three profiles and you have um a quantity of six for each.

(55:37) So you'd have three separate attempts to check out six units each time. Is that right? So the profiles themselves are like your information. Oh, Ven, did you want to go ahead? Yeah. So profiles is your information and if you want to run it's three task. You have to run if you want to hit six, you'll have to create six stacks on the same profile.

(56:01) You'll you'll be hitting six item. It makes sense. So yeah, your your profiles are your information like where you're inputting your name, your address, etc. And then your tasks are telling the bot um that you're going to connect to your profile that what products you're wanting to run and how many you're wanting to attempt for.

(56:26) So like say if you want to if you want to get six units total uh and or so sorry if you want multiple checkouts and six units in each checkout you would create like say three four five tasks and all those will attempt six units at a time. Oh I see. Okay. So yeah I was just confusing task for profile then. Yeah. So, your profile is sort of your main heading where your shipping information, payment information is, and then you have a uh you tell what what the bot what you want it to do, namely a task for for each attempt at a checkout.

(56:56) Correct. Okay. Anybody have any other questions about Stellar before we continue on at all? So Stellar is primarily good for Amazon and Walmart and Pokemon Center and Best Buy. Yes. Okay. And Costco. Oh, and Costco. Yeah. So, Miko asks, I think you mentioned earlier that prices on residential proxies depend on consumed data.

(57:34) Does running tasks for 247 take a lot of data? Yes. In the in the case of running monitor proc monitor task, it's best to run on ISP so you don't get drained. Does that make sense, Mo? He says yes. Perfect. And if you also um I just wanted to mention as well if you also like look in the guides like say if you're setting up Stellar uh Stellar has like their guides in the link that I sent earlier in the chat they also have breakdowns on what they recommend for different scenarios.

(58:31) So they they are pretty good at um making proper recommendations because I mean they're the developers of the bot. So if you're ever unsure, always just try following their guides to a tea and that will typically ensure that you have a pretty decent chance at success. So, kind of a tangent, but so back when I used to buy years ago there, you know, I was was with seller and I would get some hits, but using using the recommended guidelines from seller and their modules and all the information they had for delays, uh, proxies, etc. But I noticed

(59:12) there were people that would hit at a higher rate than others. So, what separates the two? I think it's more proxy related and how many tests you run. Some people have multiple instances and profiles. So yeah, so all depends on the proxy you're using and the profiles how many task you're you're generating. Yes.

(59:44) And not all proxies are created equal. Some will certainly work better than others. And like kind of as we touched on earlier, like if you are getting deep into botting, some people will get very specific with servers, right? And like chances are when you're running a server, you're probably going to have more success in general uh just because it's running on a more powerful machine with a better internet connection.

(1:00:06) And if that server just so happens to be closer to that retailer, it's probably also going to have a higher success rate. So people that are getting very very serious and checking out, you know, or attempting to check out hundreds if not thousands of units, those types of things can make a very big difference at scale.

(1:00:23) And are are there still like uh gated proxy groups where they only have a certain amount of people that they uh provide proxies for? Because I think that uh the number of customers you have for a proxy service that also affects the success rate. Am I wrong? I would Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Proxy can buy proxy like subnet.

(1:00:59) Subnet it's it's a private ISP. I believe they you can buy but it's it gets expensive. So if you want to buy more expensive, it's up to you. But usually it's more private so it get banned less. Yeah. Yeah, like if you have a concern of where it's like proxies are getting flooded and are going to have a lesser success, then yes, maybe some of those things will make milliseconds differences.

(1:01:30) And in some drops that may make a big difference, but most drops these days, like Pokemon Center for example, or like grabbing a random restock on Walmart, most of the time those types of things probably won't make that big of a difference. Milliseconds aren't going to change a whole lot. Yeah. where like something like that might really change things is on something that's like super limited like one unit exists or there's only 30 that are being released etc.

(1:01:58) Those types of things can certainly shine in those cases but most people that are utilizing these bots are probably not going to be focusing on a lot of those types of products. Like the reason I asked is uh back when you know PlayStation fives and Xboxes and graphic cards and uh the other hype drops released like in 2020ish there like I would run a lot of tasks, you know, hundreds of tasks, but I only hit a few and then I would see people, you know, hit hundreds upon hundreds.

(1:02:31) Uh so that's why I'm trying to kind of figure out the differentiating factor between the two. There's also luck and playing there's also luck and usually yes all sometimes a lock sometimes with proxies. Yeah. But yeah, like if if you look at so one of the paid acco that we have in the group uh BFG, he has went really deep into bot setups before and I know like I've talked with him uh like a year plus ago and he has very specific setups with very specific delays for websites, very specific servers.

(1:03:21) He's a person that will try and get servers that are like very close to certain retailers uh or like that that retailer's server rather. And so at scale with those types of things, those are going to be the things that make a big difference. And so like he was the one that it was like I think it was like two years ago when there was originally a restock of um Watch the Throne vinyl that before they reprinted it, it was very expensive.

(1:03:49) I think it was Graffiti Records was releasing 30 copies and a lot of people wanted those wanted those right and he himself I think he got like 20 of them 20 out of all the 30 that existed but it's because he spent a lot of time going very deep and spending a lot of money into those types of things like the highest quality product providers that you can get uh the highest quality most expensive servers finding them closer to the retailers servers where their websites are based etc.

(1:04:21) So with those types of things it will certainly matter but most things it probably won't and uh I guess also I've noticed some people at least back then people would have even two instances of Stellar running so two separate keys running on different machines. Does that still make a difference? That all depends if you're how many profiles you want, how many tasks you want to run.

(1:04:59) If like if if say you're just beginning one instance just is fine. If you want to run heavily like acco you have 100 of pro proxy and task you can run multiple instance at what point would you say you would need another key like if I'm say if say if I want to run like a 100 task over 100 tasks would that be sufficient with one key or I would need multiple That's if you if you're really scaling.

(1:05:41) So we're talking about 500 task to 1k task. So it depends if your machine is and no longer it's too in intensive. So you will need two instances instead of one. Yeah. So doing that like what been mentioned a lot of that is going to come down to your your computer performance, right? If it's going to be if it's going to be able to handle that much load or like the server that you're utilizing.

(1:06:14) And that's where it makes sense to split up instances into different machines. Does that make sense? Cool. Chilling. Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot I was on push to talk. Yeah, thanks. Cool. [Music] Any questions? [Music] And so just keep in mind like what Vid mentioned uh before he continues onto Cyber here, Stellar is very easy to get started with, very userfriendly, well as user friendly as bots can get.

(1:07:09) uh very inexpensive for most bots and will work at your most standard retailers that we have in Canada. Like the ones that people want to focus on, Pokemon Center, Walmart, Amazon, etc., Stellar provides a solution for most of those. I think Stellar even covers like Canada computers and a couple other sites as well.

(1:07:29) And then if you wanted to look at Shopify sites, that's where Vin is going to talk about Cyber Soul here shortly. [Music] Uh, was Stellar work in the US? Yes, they do. They they support even more sites in the US. Pretty sure they're primarily US-based anyways, says most of the bots I saw. Yeah, in Canada. In Canada, we kind of get a little shafted with website support.

(1:08:02) Uh, US tends to have a lot more support. like Stellar works on like Target and Walmart and a bunch of other US sites. Gotcha. And I I kind of came in late. Um it's so um are you able to add custom stores or it only has like integrated specifics? Only what they support. Okay, cool. Just checking. Yep. I'm totally new to bots, so completely fair.

(1:08:30) I believe probably most people in here are as well. I just mentioned that like I used Stellar probably four to five years ago or three and a half now and it just absolutely killed on target. Like I would send it to I hit Pokemon cards all the time or like the collector's editions for Elden Ring. It's a really great bot still. Surprisingly kept up.

(1:09:00) And they've gotten a lot better over the years, too. Like, yeah, in recent years, they gotten a lot better, too. I mean, they've been around for a long time. I've noticed like when I was asking around about the if the the top tier bots back then when I was botting are still around, they're like gone right now and sellers still here.

(1:09:22) So, yeah, a lot of the other bots, they were very very heavily sneaker focused. And when people stopped going so heavy in sneakers, then they didn't have as much. Some people just wanted to try different products, but some people just didn't have as much of a customer base anymore. I think I remember Ominous used to be the best for Canada for even retail drops.

(1:09:45) Uh I know it was better than Stellar at the time. And then Wrath was a really big one and their keys were going for like 5,000 US plus. All righty. Then I think we're ready to carry on. Perfect. So So for cyber pretty much the same same things applied web hook. You're you're going to add your web hook. You can name it whatever you want. Discord with whichever you want.

(1:10:22) Discord of Slack. Okay. Save. Email accounts not needed. It's mainly for us. Google accounts. You will need to add your Google accounts to get one clicks on your capture solvers. So you got it PayPal account. Same thing. It's more for EU data. If you want to import your data via EYCD, you can do it here. Capture providers.

(1:11:08) That's if you want to use third party capture solvering services, you will need it's to capture all this. And so what what Vin is mentioning here about capture solvers and whatnot. So like that's getting a little bit more deep into botting. And so like that would be like software that's essentially doing captures for you so that you don't necessarily have to do them yourself.

(1:11:31) Um there is a section in the guide that we have which I'll post here again in our it's in a sneaker it's in our sneaker guide but we have like an entire subsection uh that Vin helped greatly with for botting and all different kinds of um information about botting. uh what things like AYCD does, those types of things. So, if you're wanting to get deeper into those types of things, that's a good place to start with a reference as well.

(1:11:54) So, in that guide, that guide that I just ooped the wrong one. In the one that I'm going to post, there's a full subsection there on botting, what captures are, uh what aging Gmail accounts is, all that kind of stuff. It covers all all your basics. So, what kind of kind of a side note again, what kind of accounts do you recommend uh that or what kind of accounts do you buy? Like if you were to buy accounts for a website or Shopify or retail, do you buy any accounts or you just generate all of them for Shopify? For either for retail or

(1:12:33) for like for Best Buy, do people sell Best Buy accounts? No. Oh, usually they just generate or do it manually because I'm not sure if I'm misremembering, but I know there were certain accounts that people would buy for. I think you're you're talking about Gmails, right? Yeah, there was Gmails, but I think also Amazon. I don't know.

(1:13:00) Like some people would sell aged Amazon accounts or something like that. So, Amazon itself can be tricky with accounts just because like Amazon can connect accounts and um limit your your purchases, right? Right. So, like if a lot of items like have like a purchase limit of like five or six or whatever and if you're wanting to get around that, um you will need access to accounts that either you you produce on different ISPs or that somebody else produces for you and that you have unique information attached to.

(1:13:36) uh if you just like produce like say your main Amazon account and then another Amazon account and you have your same name and information attached to it, the chances are very high that if you order times two on item that has a purchase limit of six uh one of your orders are going to get cancelled and so that yeah I think it was uh the accounts well when I would buy accounts it was like Gmail accounts they would have options for other accounts which I never really bought but uh they would send you a different like you mentioning you

(1:14:06) would have to have a different proxy or attached to it so you don't, you know, have both of your overlap between one of your Amazon versus the other. But, uh, yeah, I was just asking if there are accounts that people generally buy that aren't Gmail for retail or for Shopify. Shopify usually doesn't matter because like Shopify is like just super easy to bypass and you can do like guest accounts and whatever.

(1:14:37) So Shopify wouldn't matter at all. Uh the only one that I could probably see are either specialty sites that really track it or potentially Amazon. But with Amazon like for most most general releases that happen like say like the first time like the Prismatic blister packs released uh they have no purchase limit.

(1:14:55) So you can basically order as many as you want and then typically if they restock from there then they'll have a purchase limit and that's where having multiple accounts would certainly be beneficial. Yeah. I think like some of the tricky ones were Target in the US. No, are are they still pretty easy to bot? It's it's mostly US. For Canada it's only Amazon.

(1:15:24) Yeah. So for once this is done we'll go ahead and if you have Shopify account that's for say mostly US billing same thing you add your billing proxies t so we'll do an example so let's say you want to What? So lifestyle. So let's stop. So let's say you want this

(1:16:31) product. So how keywords work is you're going to let's say Salomon speed cross you type salomon you add a comma speed cross and let's say if you don't want the the blue one you'll just do comma minus And so yeah, what Vin is doing here, he's he's inputting keywords because like this will be monitoring a site and then trying to find your items based on the keyword instead of you entering in like the product URL because you might not have it in advance. Often you won't.

(1:17:16) And so instead, this is going to attempt to find keywords and then it'll check out anything that it finds with your keywords. and by adding a negative keyword that will help prevent you from uh checking out products that you don't want. So like in this case, he's looking for the Solomon uh speed cross shoes and then he doesn't want the blue ones.

(1:17:35) So he's put in a negative keyword as blue. So it'll check out anything else that is Solomon uh speed cross minus minus the blue color. So usually on initials it's save or safe preload. Yoi don't touch this. This doesn't work. Fast fast fast preload that's for restocks or if you know they doesn't they don't use bug protection.

(1:18:09) Super safe it's for domain change can use shop app but usually safe and safe. So choose your proxy, select your profile and create a class. Multicard is if you want another item in your cart in the same cart. So let's say I want a perfume. We'll go ahead and add perfume and your cart. Everything in the same cart. advance that you can leave it as is.

(1:18:48) Press check. That's if you don't want you don't want it too expensive. So let's say like the J Bvin the price was 20K. So max price you want 300 in this case. And you create that. And so here guys as well um as far as I recall I believe Stellar supports Shopify as well. Isn't that correct Finn? They just they're just not as successful as Cyber Soul for example.

(1:19:26) Yes, exactly. So yeah, for like standard sites like say like we have like Amazon sellers in here that are looking for like restocks of products and it's on like a Shopify site, uh utilizing something like Stellar will probably work absolutely fine, right? where something like Cyber Soul will really shine or where you'd want to consider something like Cyber Soul or Valor would be on the products that are going to be releasing that have a very high hype behind them.

(1:19:51) So like sneakers, a lot of street wear, some of the drops that we mentioned if they're Shopify sites. That's where uh bots like Cyber Soul and Valor are going to probably more likely have better success than Stellar. But you can still attempt to utilize Stellar for Shopify sites as well. Yeah, for sure.

(1:20:09) And I believe they do Foot Locker as well, but you're better off using velour for Foot Locker. Cyber is not great on flocker but the best but currently on flocker is balor. I'll go ahead and open Velour. And so yeah, you can see like the process is more or less the same from botto. Their their UI is just a little bit different, but they're all very very similar in terms how they are utilized.

(1:21:09) Any question for Shopify and for anybody that's curious um for Cyber Soul I did attempt to get a a group buy with them. They indicated that uh they didn't think that we were established enough, like we're still too new. So, if you want to get Cyber Soul, you can just sign up for their weight list, and I've heard most people get approved within like a week or two.

(1:21:42) Uh, for Valor, I'm still actively attempting to get a group buyer group discount, so hopefully that will be coming up in the next week or two. And while Vin is typing this in, I'm also working on another bot as well called Refract. Uh, the reason why I'm working on that is just to give people options that want it and that would be specifically more so catered towards the US and Pokemon.

(1:22:11) Uh, I've heard that some people have been having decent success with Refract. Um, not necessary. Um, most people probably don't or won't get it, but I want the option there just in case somebody does. Uh, and like just in case they want to say try Stellar for Pokemon Center and if they aren't happy with the results or they want to try another bot at the same time, then they also have an option to try something like Refract as well at a discounted price.

(1:22:38) But again, in most cases, you'll be fine with probably just one bot. So for initial it will be like that. So let's for I'm running on currently on my IP IP address. So three tax maximum and let's say the drop is in 30 seconds will start. option and it it'll get in queue and then before let's say you your delay was at 20 you'll go ahead and drop your delays and save and have your capture solver ready to be solved like Oh, and so for Oh, no. Sorry. Go ahead. And

(1:23:45) for restocks, you will change the mode to safe instead of safe preload. So safe. Usually I run more task say it's ISP. So more task I will be running 24/7. So I will find my test that I go ahead and it will say find product and yes that's it. Any questions? And so when you see his uh captures pop up there.

(1:24:34) So, like that's something like when you if you're first attempting to run a bot, again, this is where like the learning process comes in because like you probably not used to doing this and you definitely may be unsuccessful your first couple times when you try it. So, that's why if you're wanting to to try getting into types of bodying, it's important that you just try some drops as they come.

(1:24:58) And the more that you try it, the more you're going to get experience with it, the more successful you're going to be. because chances are on your first drop, you're probably going to panic and you're probably not going to have a great success. It does take a little bit of learning in order to make sure that you can check out more units, especially if you have to do captures and things like that.

(1:25:25) Anybody have any questions for Vinol? I just want to say this is super great and I'm glad we were able to sort of come together and make this happen. I I've been out of the scene for a while for botting. So, it's nice to see that um a few things have changed, a few names have stayed the same and the processes are um definitely worth diving into for sure to at least try it.

(1:25:57) I I know that like it's probably a better investment as we get closer to like the holidays, but uh it's still worth trying to practice now and then using it later on. So, thank you. Definitely. It's very appreciated, Vin. Um but yeah, like with this like I guess it also depends on what you're trying to get, right? So obviously like the whole big hype right now is very much so Pokemon cards.

(1:26:28) And so if you're somebody that's trying to get more Pokemon cards than just personal um botting right now can obviously be very very profitable, right? And there's going to be ups and downs for things um depending on what kind of releases are happening on whether or not maintaining bots, servers, proxies, etc. are going to maintain profitability for you.

(1:26:48) Um we always cover a ton of t a ton of different things in the server. So, we'll always have some type of opportunity. Uh, but like say once Pokemon dies down and we're not having anything that's like popping up in the near future, it may not be as worth it to maintain all these subscriptions. Um, and that's something that you obviously want to keep in mind as well to maintain your expenses and ensure that you're more profitable than what all the software is costing you because if you're just if you just have a bot and

(1:27:16) you pay for proxies and stuff and you never utilize it, it's probably not worth your while. So, if you're going to have the stuff, make sure you're using it, too. Yeah, for sure. What I can do is for the upcoming releases, I can do a a live cop so we can guys can see how the process work. And yeah, that would be sweet.

(1:27:56) So, what's like your what's like your hit ratio for like say a Pokemon drop? Your success rate roughly. So, for Pokemon, I usually hit all the drops, all the releases, but when I'm not home, I usually miss the drop. For example, the the Prismatic, the ETB Prismatic on Pokemon Center. I wasn't I was at Costco, so I missed the release. So, yeah.

(1:28:34) But usually it's it's easy, especially Pokemon. You just have to start your task and usually you're it's very smooth. Like do you hit for all your profiles the drop? Yes. I think it was yesterday or the day prior. I don't remember what day it was, but Vin mentioned like he hit every single one that the information was accurate on.

(1:29:03) Anybody that had incorrect billing information didn't hit, but every single one he hit. Yeah, I I mine hit, by the way. Thanks. Forgot to post in success. But yeah, I was just trying to get a general idea of what the success rate is for Pokemon Center or Best Buy, for example. Uh yeah, I believe I believe a lot of it does come down to the the units that are allocated.

(1:29:38) And if there are very very limited units, then it does have a large element of luck as well. Like if you're trying to get like the founders edition GPUs and there's only like 10 that restock, uh you're going to have a large elemental luck in that guy. Oh yeah, I think Stellar, at least back then in 2020, that's when Best Buy had the the Q system and Stellar wasn't that great for getting those back then.

(1:30:06) So more manual And I believe that's another important thing to mention is when you are botting, don't specifically only exclusively rely on your bots because some things can and do change. Like so like sometimes bots can break, sometimes websites can change things. And so if you are going for a drop, uh when you're first trying botting, just try to just focus on your bot so you can learn how to use it properly.

(1:30:41) Uh but when you know how it works, be prepared to do with your botting and also manually as well. Because if you look at things like those um Tops uh Murakcomi cards that released, bots completely [ __ ] the bed on that release because they uh they completely wiped out the queue. And so you want to always be prepared for both um because things can always happen.

(1:31:04) Botting doesn't guarantee success. It just greatly increases your odds and typically allows you to potentially get more units than you would just doing it manually. But it's not always guaranteed It's all you, Vin. But but yeah, for Shopify, it's pretty simple, but we'll move on to Foot Locker.

(1:31:59) So for Foot Locker, it's easier to set up. You just go to a random link. So let's say we going for this shoes want to create task store select your store foot locker Canada random and the skew for the skew we enter skew the skew is between the this and then you enter it. If you don't find a skill on the link, if you're not sure, you can just go on details and you'll find the product number I believe profile residential for Foot Locker as always.

(1:32:56) And usually you run 500 to2,000 task. Once this is done, usually you just start one minute 30 second 1 minute 30 seconds before the drop and we let it run. Usually I keep my delays at 4,000 and 5,000 or 5,000. You save and you're going to run. That's it for follow. Any question regarding? Doesn't seem like it.

(1:34:09) I mean, like, it's it's in Foot Locker is kind of in an interesting place because a lot of like the profitable sneaker releases I find are locked up behind like the reservation system. So, I don't know if that's something that a bots or you just botting like straight stock of whatever they're going to drop at a given date and time, if they even give the public a date or time.

(1:34:34) I don't think Sabre velour doesn't support reservation, but I believe a Hayha does. Not sure if it's up to date, but yeah, that's good to know. Thank you. Yeah, I know sneakers in general are kind of in an interesting place at the moment. Uh, Vinh, are you still doing a lot with sneakers today? No, I I stopped.

(1:35:14) I just the market really crashed and I just stopped completely stopped mainly doing Amazon and Pokemon as of now. Yeah. Not to say that there's not profitable releases because like there certainly are, but it's just a very different market for sneakers versus what it was a couple years ago. Yeah, for sure. Any question regarding Pokemon Shopify? No, I think it's been great.

(1:36:05) Like I said, Ben, you you've done a great job hitting for a lot of us so far. And you're right now that Pokemon Center has kind of switched now to like a very strange Q system. Uh I think yeah, makes the case for Stellar for a lot of folks even even more so. Like I don't know in terms of like the drop that we had yesterday like how early or late you were to it because I know that you've hit ETBs for like a lot of other folks but I'm sure like some people even ended up with like booster boxes and stuff like that from

(1:36:33) Destin Rivals which you land any one of those products and it will definitely make your monthly back and then some. So, I don't know if you wanted to get more into the process behind how how you operated that so well and when. So, yeah, for $35 a month, I think it's it's a steal. So, like I said, I will do a live cup in the upcoming days and I will post it in the group how the process works and yeah, that'd be fantastic even for a Pokemon draw because I know that like those are really hard to time. That would help a

(1:37:11) lot of folks out if that's where the money is currently. Yeah, for sure. And I don't want to make any promises, but eventually whenever I can have some time, I will be joining Vin and helping do supplementary acco server. He will still certainly always be the main provider. Uh because I am not experienced like he is whatsoever.

(1:37:41) But when I have some time, I'll get uh a few things set up for some people just so that those that are not wanting to run bots or want to supplement it can have even potentially a bit more success. or in the event that Vinh's at Costco, then maybe some people can still hit some units. But yeah, more questions.

(1:38:19) CC seeing a live cop, especially for Pokemon Center, I think it'll be really good. Yeah, for sure. For the for the upcoming job. I have a stellar question. I'm not sure if you want to backtrack. Yeah, for sure. That's cool. Um, so did you say um the proxies were optional or because I heard like something about some talks about paying for certain servers or something or is that different? So for proxies, it's it's a must for retailers, right? So you have to run residentials mainly on retailers. Mhm.

(1:39:04) But for if you want to run your local IP, you can do it on Shopify. Shopify, it's three tasks maximum. But like I said, Pokemon and Walmart, you have to runs, okay? bad and u the residentials. So I mainly do like Walmart, Best Buy. Uh those are my big too. Um so would I have to pay extra for a server? Is that what you're saying? Or no, you can you can run it on your local computer.

(1:39:41) Just make sure just make sure it doesn't crash. Just make sure your computer can handle all of the task and you should be good. Okay, cool. I I think I got it mistaken with some kind of like paid server talk that someone was talking. No, proxies are different than servers. Uh yeah, proxies are like uh what it is a proxy.

(1:40:04) You're basically duping the system to for them to see that you're someone else so they're not getting it from the same location. Uh, but with regards to proxies, like I think I recall Stellar had a way to check the proxy speeds. Is there any other way that you vet different proxy providers for their quality? Usually I just I just stick with one that works for me.

(1:40:41) But this the this when you're testing your proxy on the bot usually it's not accurate. You want to actually use a a real live proxy tester. So in this case I think live proxy has a I have a link. Let me let me give me a second. Cuz like I think you also want to check your ISPs that they're not dead, right? Yeah. Yeah.

(1:41:18) So, while Vin is pulling that up, I just wanted to mention to yourself back about like with proxies like cold mentioned, you're kind of like getting like a separate like internet connection essentially. So it looks like it's coming like an order is coming from somewhere else. So you can kind of think about it almost as like a VPN but better.

(1:41:36) Um and then like a server would be like you're renting like an entirely different machine in a in a different location and you're basically remote accessing that machine. It's like a remote desktop. Basically you have access to a remote desktop with its own internet provider and all of that stuff. Gotcha. Okay. And that's not typically required unless you're doing very very heavy botting or your computer is just not very good and can't handle the amount of tasks that you want to run.

(1:42:06) Yeah. Oh, I think I remember this. Hey, I just have a quick question. I don't know if you guys can hear me. Yes, we can hear you. Yep. All right, I'm just asking so we you guys were talking about proxy earlier. Uh this is question for uh QMTL. So would you uh prefer better remote desktop protocols directly or proxies? So like you have multiple RDPs on your computer and bing or it's better just to have simple proxies and that's it.

(1:42:55) If you're just beginning you don't need I believe you don't need a server. That's if your your machine can handle other task. But usually proxies if you don't run that many task that much task you don't need to to have a server. Okay. I was also late to the call, Vin, but did you cover um like res's versus I think it's like static IP proxies and how cuz I I remember like back in the day for me like res's were super expensive to run 24/7 for like target drops and I would just buy like weekly like the the different the other

(1:43:46) type of of proxy that you would use so that it's the IP is static but then I would just cop whenever I could. I don't know if those are still viable in 2025. Yeah, Vinh covered that earlier in the call. Uh but if you have a question about it, certainly feel free to ask. No, I said my illiteracy strikes again.

(1:44:11) Thank you. I don't know if it's a thing for uh retail botting, but uh when I was doing botting for NFTTS a couple years ago, there was something called mobile proxies where they essentially uh like do a proxy for for mobile. Is that a thing that's uh in botting nowadays or for sneaker and retailers? It's not a thing. I think it's mostly for NFD.

(1:44:45) Okay. Yeah, thought so. Cuz it was really new when I saw it and they're like, it's supposedly better than I isn't she technically use that for Stellar or other bots? I think it can work but not sure how it will perform. Never use it. So, hey, I just have another question. Yes.

(1:45:33) Um, which browser do you prefer for your proxies, Google Chrome or Firefox? for your proxies. Yeah. Don't you like input proxies in u in your browser? Like there's a place where you can input your proxy in your browser and then that's only if you're wanting to do like um containers and like doing things manually. So like if you're if you're trying to check out things manually on different machines or if like say if you're trying to do tickets for example because you can't use bots with tickets with like regular botting like with stellar or whatnot. You're entering them

(1:46:08) directly in the bot. Oh, okay. Yeah, I came in late. I need to, you know, take the call when it's done. Yeah, like t ticket uh doing tickets and whatnot like that's something that's totally different and that's something that we can certainly always touch on at a later time. All right. Back to you, Vin.

(1:46:56) Okay, so that's for shop Shopify and Foot Locker. And we'll go ahead and start. No. So this one here is Valor and this one uh would be another alternative for Shopify as well. Correct then? Yes. Yeah. So you you'll choose commands, you go on the new site. And so uh just in case anybody wasn't here in here earlier, Valor is another bot.

(1:47:49) Uh we are working on a group by group discount for Valor and I'm hoping to hopefully have that set up in the next uh week or two here. So you might leave it to default URL. You take the URL. So let's say we're going for the shoes URL. You pick your the size you want. So say we want 10 10 and a half. Color you leave it blank.

(1:48:22) Monitor delay you can leave it as is. Same thing for retry delay. Profile say I want to delete [Music] anything. So for new bands ASP are better. In this case, we'll run 100 and it can run you can start 30 seconds before the release and let it run. any questions for anybody else? So yeah, if anybody is doing any

(1:49:32) specialty sites and you're unsure on like what to do, like I mentioned earlier, you can always ask what the process is, what kind of delays you should run, when you should start the bot, etc. Uh but more or less they are very very similar in processes from site to site. Just if you want some little nuance you can obviously reference the guides from the from the developers themselves or you can always ask in the server as well.

(1:50:09) So for Shopify it's the same process same thing. that stop which you will go to dead stop. Same thing save all the same stuff. Um [Music] I believe random just like that can enter password that's for password when for password page app

(1:51:15) when for like like let's say Hobbiesville they drop stuff on V app exclusive so we'll have to toggle this on create and just like that same thing same process 30 seconds before then start depending on the queue Um, that's it. Any question regarding So as you guys can see um for a lot of drops it is if you can it's important

(1:52:21) that you have early links right and that's why like when we have early links available for drops we will post them as quickly as we can it's important to have because that's going to have a better accuracy and some websites obviously require URLs or product IDs etc like with Shopify you can run keywords with a lot of retailers is you're going to have to get the actual URL itself.

(1:52:44) So, we try to get early links whenever we can. And so, it's important that you either watch the channels for certain drops if you're wanting to do uh participate in those drops um or you're actively attempting to monitor our monitors for those links as well. Okay. um for things like um Walmart Pokemon drops.

(1:53:07) We've actually found a method recently to consistently find early links for Walmart drops for Pokemon. Uh the early links up until their release are going to be gated behind Gold Team just to ensure they don't get out anywhere else. Uh but as soon as they're dropping, the links will be provided. So, like for example, earlier today, we got a link for the Prismatic uh super premium collection for Walmart.

(1:53:34) If you attempt to find that on Walmart's website right now, you're not going to find it. We already have a link for it. So, uh that also gives people motivation to get those points and get into gold team as well, so you can get early links for stuff like that. So, you can be ready. All right.

(1:54:32) What's next on the list? F proxies. What do you got lore? So, all these other bots, do you have are you using them because you have ACOs for them or there's uh because you mentioned earlier there's not really that many profitable drops for sneakers. So, so fiber I have last time so I just keep it. But velour I usually just keep it for foot locker new bands for shoes specifically and stellar for Pokemon all the other stuff.

(1:55:19) Pretty much a simple setup. So yeah, in terms of what works for you and what you need, it's going to be all dependent on the kind of drops that you're wanting to go for. In most cases, chances are for most people here, the only thing that you will probably need is Stellar. If you're wanting to go very more specific drops or have more success on Shopify, then that's where or like a lot of foot sites, then that's where Valor and Cyber Soul will come in a little bit more.

(1:55:52) Oh, also does the seller still sell license keys or is it only monthlies now they had because I know back then they were selling like full license keys so you don't have to pay the monthly like for lifetime. Yeah, I want to say they sometimes have lifetime keys but I don't think it's that common.

(1:56:14) You can typically do yearly or monthly now. Uh they don't they don't actually even uh publicly advertise it monthly plan. They have quarterly. release every 3 months or every year like do you know if I I can probably check on the uh like bot mart or something but I think that's where people are selling the license keys for a lifetime. Yeah.

(1:56:39) Um that's more in the in the in the cool group more in the US cool group I realized that they usually sell sell sell lifetime key so you'll find it more in private cool group so the US especially but if there's demand for lifetime keys you can let me know and I can see if I if we can access In my case, I it's a lifetime key, so I I paid around 1.4, I believe, USD.

(1:57:17) Damn. When was this? [Music] I believe once one month ago. Oh, recently. Okay. cuz I I remember back in 2021 or 2020ish, they were going for like 350 or 400. If you actually If you look on their site, if you look on their site right now, they actually have lifetime keys on there and they're uh 1,499 US. Damn. Yeah, they went up.

(1:57:52) Yeah. like um WOPS or not [ __ ] uh Stellar's standard price is $1.99 for three months and so that comes out to $66 a month where our our our pricing is 35 and you only have to pay month by month. Yeah, then it wouldn't be worth it because I was thinking it was if it was around like you know four or 500 bucks then I'd probably buy it but yeah it's a little too much right now.

(1:58:22) Yeah, they've had a lot more demand like in the last little bit for things like Pokemon obviously, so they're certainly charging accordingly. Vinh just mentioned that his mic shut down, so he's just going to be a moment here. But yeah, I think even we had yearly keys for Stellar for a while and they were even cheaper.

(1:58:56) Um, they ended up being I think slightly less than $30 per month, but we ran out of those. I'll see if I can get some more. Um, but yeah, even like really really big groups that I've seen that have discounted rates, even like their quoteunquote preferred partner, it costs more than the than the key that we have.

(1:59:26) Are you back, Finn? Yeah. So, so yes. So, I paid 1.5 for the key. Vinh's dish. Yeah, Vinh's dishing out that Pokemon money. So, what's next? What's next on the list here, Vinh? Just taking questions. No, no more questions regarding all the abs. Anybody have any questions about anything that was covered or bot related whatsoever? Does going through this help clarify kind of how botting works and

(2:00:33) give you a little bit of confidence in getting started if you haven't before? Yes, absolutely it does. Yeah. Yeah. I'll probably have to watch the recording a couple of times, but Yeah. Yeah. And so keep in mind because I know like obviously we have a primarily Amazon focus group, right? So obviously botting can be used for all the hype drops, releases, etc.

(2:01:04) But also keep in mind that it can be used for like OA as well, right? So, if you have products that are at websites that are supported like Walmart, Best Buy, etc. that are consistently out of stock, utilizing a bot like Stellar or another bot can help you secure those units more quickly as well. Usually, like if you just have restock monitors running for those units, like we have the private restock monitors in the server, usually that's sufficient.

(2:01:32) Um, however, if you're wanting to get a larger quantity of those units, these can certainly help out a lot for that as well. Anybody have any other questions, comments at all? Maybe, maybe not. Yeah, I just have a question about the um using botting for OA. Um obviously if you have multiple profiles, depending on the site, you'd have to have um you'd have to [ __ ] your address.

(2:02:24) But uh wouldn't that be an issue though if Amazon ever asks you to submit um you know your invoices for your products just to verify your supply chain? 100% it would be so if you in scenarios like that if it' be recommended primarily to utilize like say Walmart because you can you can use the same address back to back.

(2:02:50) If you are say doing heavily on Best Buy and you need to jig your address and you need the invoices, what I recommend that you do is for any profile that you have, go into your settings on Amazon and add that as another address in your account. It'll just be like a secondary address because you can add additional addresses in your account.

(2:03:08) People do it for prep centers as well. So in that way, uh you have that documentation. Yeah. So, as long as you have um at least one of the the address or the addresses on file that correlates with your invoice, you shouldn't have any any issue. Correct. But you want to make sure that it matches. So, if you're using some weird address, make sure you add it as a secondary one as a just in case.

(2:03:36) But I would imagine for most people for um arbitrage, you're probably going to be probably focusing like say Walmart, Shopify. Um probably Walmart more so than anything. Um so with Walmart, just keep your same address and you'll be fine. Yeah, I haven't really run into too many issues yet with uh getting the the quantity that I need, but and that might be in part because much of the the buys that I'm still doing your test buys 100%.

(2:04:11) Where this will play is like if somebody is wanting to get like a very hot restock for arbitrage. So like uh a couple years ago like say like the Celtic sea salt that was super hot, right? and people uh a lot of retailers couldn't keep it in stock or like say if you're trying to find like a certain um panini uh sports card set that retailers do sometimes stock a few units that will be really beneficial for things like that as well.

(2:04:40) Most regular retail products if they're not super in demand right now you'll probably have no no issue getting enough units Was there anything else that you were wanting to cover at all tonight, Ben, or was that was that uh everything that you wanted to cover? That's everything. Beauty. So, we'll probably wrap up here shortly.

(2:05:10) So, does anybody have any additional questions, comments, concerns about anything before we do? Make sure you speak it now. And as I mentioned, um, if you look back, um, in case you missed it and you weren't in the call in the voice chat chat, I did post a lot of resources from the things that we discussed today. So, the different bots that Vinh talked about, uh, their guides, which will show the websites that they support.

(2:05:42) Uh there is I copied and pasted some information from our um botting guide. So specifically explaining what the difference between ISP and residential proxies are um address jigging, what servers are, etc. And then there's even more information in the guide that we have if you click on that guy and I'll post it in this chat again in case you missed it.

(2:06:05) It is part of our sneaker reselling guide, but there is a whole subsection in there about botting. And it doesn't specifically necessarily have to apply to sneakers. Uh it applies to all types of botting, but we have it in there because that's kind of where the main focus was prior. And then of course, if you're if you're trying out botting and you need help, you have questions, always feel free to ask.

(2:06:30) That's what we're here for. Sure. And if anybody missed it as well, um, as I mentioned earlier, if you look in our utility server, if you're not in the utility server already, join it and let me know when you do and I will get you access. In that guy, we have uh discounted pricing group buys for multiple different bots, different proxy providers, uh, a couple that offer servers, etc.

(2:06:58) So, you can certainly look in there if you want to get discounted pricing for those guys. Uh, don't feel like you have to. I don't benefit from it in any way. I don't get any kickbacks from it. It's just discounted pricing for you guys. So, feel free to utilize that or of course feel free to find any other services that you want as well.

(2:07:17) If there's ever any certain proxy providers or other bots, etc. that you're looking at. Uh if you do want to see if we can get a group eye for it, send it my way and I will certainly see if we can before you purchase it. Uh there's power in numbers, so a lot of providers are willing to give us some form of discount and some quite substantially.

(2:07:39) So always worth it to try. So before we wrap up, anybody have any any questions at all? Just want to confirm before we finish here. Cool. Was there anything else that you wanted to say at all then? I have a lot uh we'll have a live cop um for the next release. So stay tuned for that. Yeah, that'll be very cool.

(2:08:15) So Vinh will do a live cop with probably Pokemon and so it'll be a demonstration on exactly how he goes about securing units and botting for that drop. So it'll be a good demonstration so that if you're wanting to do it yourself, you'll have his experience to go base off of and it'll take a little bit less trial and error for yourself. Very cool.

(2:08:44) So then I think we'll wrap it up there. Uh it's very appreciated that you were able to do this with us, Vinh. I know a lot of people will benefit from from this and it was a long time coming. Uh we had people asking for something like this for a very very long time. So I certainly appreciate that you took the time to do this today.

(2:09:01) For having me. Definitely. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you, Vinh. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you, Vinh. Have a great weekend. Thank everybody. Take care and have a good rest of your day, everyone. Yeah. I shall enter.