September 25, 2024; Show Review
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Introduction (00:01-00:41)
The call starts with an informal AMA format.
Questions and discussions are encouraged; no topic is off-limits.
Introduction of new members, including Daniel, who is new to ticket reselling.
Metallica Ticket Reselling Overview (00:41-02:24)
Discussion about recent Metallica shows and write-ups.
Focus on breaking down ticket-buying strategies for newcomers.
Overview of Metallica pre-sales and insights into reselling dynamics.
Industry Insights (02:24-03:39)
Upcoming sports events: baseball playoffs, NBA, NHL seasons.
Emphasis on asking questions and group discussions to maximize learning.
Key Events to Watch (03:39-06:18)
Lincoln Park’s unique reunion show strategies analyzed.
Discussion of divisive fan reactions, including controversies surrounding the lead singer.
Strategic advice for evaluating events based on fan sentiment and ticket demand.
Coldplay UK Pre-Sale (06:18-14:02)
UK-specific resale rules, differences from the US market.
Coldplay's upcoming UK shows: pre-sale details, advice on risks, and opportunities.
General tips for navigating international ticket reselling markets.
Shawn Mendes (14:02-21:40)
Analysis of Mendes’ two announced shows: Toronto and Denver.
Recommendation to participate in the lottery for pre-sale codes.
Warning about non-transferable tickets with auto-buy features.
Metallica Ticket Strategy Deep Dive (21:40-35:38)
Analysis of Metallica’s ticket sales across venues and timelines.
Emphasis on patience and strategic pricing to maximize resale profits.
Specific advice for venues like Blacksburg, Virginia, with unique cultural ties to Metallica.
General Advice on Ticket Reselling (35:38-46:03)
Tips on pricing strategy: starting high and adjusting as necessary.
Highlighting differences between ticket reselling and traditional reselling markets.
Advice for new resellers: focus on learning and observing market behavior.
Sports Ticket Reselling Basics (46:03-59:42)
Recommendations for building an email strategy to monitor sports tickets.
Explanation of season ticket dynamics and their resale potential.
Suggestions for beginners to focus on local teams and build relationships with ticket reps.
Call Updates and Ongoing Discussion (59:42-End)
Highlights of other events like Zach Brown, Wu-Tang Clan, and Seinfeld & Gaffigan shows.
Overview of smaller, profitable events and niche markets like hip-hop.
Final Q&A with members addressing individual concerns, including account setup issues.
Encouragement to explore unfamiliar artists and events for new opportunities.
(00:01) and yeah we can get going whenever you like cool awesome um guys thanks so much for being here uh I appreciate it couple of things I wanted to cover tonight um a as as most of you know we we stick to a pretty casual AMA style format uh I will fill in the gaps with just various topics and discussions um has everyone that's here done one of these with us before is everyone has everyone done at least one call do we have any anyone that's brand new I don't believe Daniel's been in one yet yeah I Haven enjoined one of the calls cool um
(00:41) Brandon I mean uh sorry Daniel um if you don't mind me asking and putting you on the spot are where give me an idea of kind of where you land as far as are you just starting out with tickets you bought a couple things you're you're experience where I just want to make sure we cover stuff that that hits for everybody um I'm still like pretty new reselling tickets I think I've unintentionally done it in the past but okay cool never really tickets yeah yeah sure okay awesome um so I want to talk about um I want to talk about kind of
(01:15) obviously the the band of the week is Metallica I want to kind of go through those Metallica shows with everybody because the call that the write up that I wrote was very lengthy it had lots and lots of information and if you were new or um you know uh you're not seasoned uh that that write up may be may have been a little intimidating um but I want to walk through that and talk about Metallica and kind of where we stand right now um did anyone on the call by Metallica this week okay you did okay cool I think you do
(01:54) that I think we talked about it a bit uh last night when I was having some issues with listed and all of that sure sure sure yeah yeah yeah gotcha um yes we'll talk a little bit about Metallica Daniel I'm going to put you on the spot there because I do want to I'm interested to hear uh just kind of what you bought and and because you're new I'd love to walk through kind of what you bought uh the the thought process and then what we're going to do to turn that those decisions into some money um we'll get to that a
(02:24) little bit later um I also might cover a little bit about sport sports tonight I know we talked about sports a little bit last month um I'd like to cover a little bit about sports uh just because with baseball playoffs starting NBA NHL about to start back up uh it's a great time to talk about sports and then along the way um anything that you guys have that is on your mind you've been wondering about hey I heard this uh hey I made this mistake anything like that um you don't need my permission this is not a oneman
(03:00) show uh the more questions you guys ask the more the better discussion we can have um and so yes please I will I will really lean on y'all to ask questions there is no stupid question um and I will try to give as thorough of an answer for all those questions as possible uh Jordan you always do a really great job of kind of leading us out of the gate with a couple of just things that are on your mind or uh things in around the server that you've seen people ask what do you have tonight what can we start off with um to uh to
(03:39) talk about tonight so like there's no like General topics that I have uh this evening that I guess like there's a couple things that I suppose I would like to cover a little bit so definitely um talking about Metallica will be good um also like if you have looked through any of the calls that I've been also posting in the server at all if you have any feedback about that near the end and and then also I would like to discuss uh Lincoln Park potentially and then upcoming yes Coldplay for the UK yeah absolutely those are all really great
(04:13) things let's start off with Lincoln Park because I did um I did get a question about that earlier in the group I believe that person is here I don't know usernames uh for everyone but but uh Mr uh I believe it was hermit um Pi that ask yeah cool so let's talk let's start off talking about Lincoln Park because that's a really great place to start because some I got some DMS that were like hey man what's going on I didn't see you do a write up for Lincoln Park and I want to just stress first of all that um there part of my job is is
(04:52) taking an event list of things that go on sale which some days could be dozens of things and some days liter there are two or three thousand different events that are going on sale my job is to whittle that list down to a handful of things um that are easily digest digestible for y'all and I think will'll make money so as it pertains to Lincoln Park specifically for those who do not know they announced I believe it was yesterday that they are continuing this very weird reunion roll out of um and doing a uh a a show at the Texas Rangers
(05:32) baseball stadium in Dallas in like six weeks uh which just from a fan perspective from an industry perspective it's very very weird this whole thing has kind of been weird um they did the show in La about two weeks ago uh they did a show the next week in New York um both of the fan reception was was decent on those shows if you have not watched any clips from that I would encourage you to to do that and on that note it is as you get more and more into this and tickets I would certainly encourage you even if Lincoln Park is not your
(06:18) favorite band in order to just stay on top of and in tune with um the industry as a whole and and just how things are moving I would always encourage you for big tours and stuff like that to uh seek out some of that footage on Tik Tok or YouTube or whatever uh even if Lincoln Park is not your favorite band just to get a pulse on kind of what's going on uh same thing with the Sabrina Carpenter huge tour that actually started last night uh or sorry Monday night um you definitely want to seek out uh just watching clips from that and reading
(06:59) kind of Tik Tock comments and twe and tweets and stuff about that tour just to stay on top of kind of what fans are saying and that Rings especially true if you were holding any tickets for Sabrina Carpenter because obviously you're rooting for that tour to do very well um but anyway I digress getting back to Lincoln Park um so this entire roll out has been a little weird um they announced the LA and New York shows with like less than a week uh notice and now we have a stadium those were in arenas and now we have stad a
(07:39) stadium show uh randomly in Dallas which has no affiliation to the band at all that to my knowledge um and um yeah and we we we gave fans 24 hours notice before we put a show on sale that happens in six weeks uh just very un usual the the the big cloud over this entire reunion and the reason that um some people have soured on it fans and resellers alike um there have been some there have been some links between the new lead singer um and Scientology uh which we are not this call is not about scientology or anything affiliated
(08:30) however very diversive subject uh also uh she was linked to the Scientologist that uh was affiliated with that sex cult uh Danny Masterson the that the huge case a couple years ago uh the lead singer has been linked to that and so there's been uproar online about how into Scientology she is how Affiliated she is all of that stuff uh and it has definitely put a damper on what was supposed to be excitement about the band has turned into people being pissed off about uh where she falls on the Scientology radar um so that's one
(09:12) aspect that's a big aspect as far as you know if you go through the Lincoln Park Reddit and if you don't use Reddit uh casually or for this job um I would highly encourage you to change that the best way to get an immediate temperature on how fans are reacting whether fans are clamoring for tickets to something whether they're excited about something not excited about something go to the band's subreddit um and just read through kind of some of those threads uh if you go to the Lincoln Park one you will inevitably
(09:48) see maybe not so much um at the top right now but certainly when the reunion first happened a couple weeks ago every single topic of conversation was about science ology and people being pissed off and that kind of thing so if when I say get a temperature and keep up to dat um something as simple as just visiting the Lincoln Park subreddit can do that for you and that's something I encourage uh because again at the end of the day as we've discussed reselling tickets is less about buying and reselling tickets
(10:19) and more about trying to predict fans behavior and what they want to spend money on above face value to go see live entertainment wise we are trying to predict the the behavior of that fan that is actually going to be sitting in that seat uh so the Scientology stuff already affected resale on New York and La New York did okay La started off okay but once the Scientology stuff uh took root and started rolling and snowballing um the bottom definitely fell out of New York um and so have kind of a divisive you have a a split group of fans of some
(11:05) of which are excited to see the band reunite and some of which are pissed off about XYZ so you take that and you couple it with uh an announcement yesterday and an announcement yesterday about an on sale today for a show that happens in a 43,000 capacity venue in six weeks um and you know you have to also keep in mind the average fan of Lincoln Park was in high school in like 2002 2003 2004 so those folks are going to be upper 30s low 40s right now and so they need more time uh they are not a teenager who can jump on a plane
(11:58) necessarily um or leave their kids and family at home to go to Dallas and see Lincoln Park reunite um so that's an important factor as well just about the age group of the fan and average that you're talking about so huge venue six weeks to sell it out um uh some social media divisiveness um and and really the the pricing I I think it was like $70 of nose B in a stadium all the way up to like $300 um if you really would like a if you would like to put all of what I just said into a visual you can actually venture over to Ticketmaster search
(12:42) Lincoln Park open up that Dallas show and you if you just click out of the password box um you can see how few tickets they sold today um and you can just and you can see kind of all that stuff in visual form now I'm not saying you know they will certainly sell more tickets during the public sale uh but for me personally uh I did not recommend Lincoln Park and did not open it today or search it or buy it for all of these reasons um these are the so essentially for me if I don't write about something it is much much less likely that I miss
(13:25) it uh I miss a couple things I don't miss much uh but more like I I'm just if if I don't endorse it I'm not going to do a write up about it um does anyone have any questions about that thought process um any of the and these are factors that you should also be thinking about when you're trying to decide if you want to go to a go for a drop whether I recommend it or not um you should be thinking about every angle and putting yourself in the fan uh in the shoes of the fan that might be buying your ticket how are they going to get
(14:02) there how expensive is it to stay in Dallas is it expensive to stay in Dallas right now things like that um all factor in but those are my reasons why I did not call Lincoln Park um does anyone have any questions about or isn't sold on that and and wants to talk through that further cool um so the next thing that we had that Jordan brought up was Coldplay now Coldplay is doing shows in the UK uh they have uh a couple of shows going on sale at wimbley Stadium tomorrow uh that is UK time so that would be I believe 3 A.M Eastern
(14:46) tomorrow morning um and and just in general uh I do not do a lot of UK writeups for various reasons number one there is just there the there it's a different set of rules over in the UK um they have different resale rules they have different account rules uh they will put your stuff at will call without blinking an eye and suddenly your choices are going to pick up your tickets in London or losing out on what you bought um things like that uh I do that is the the reason why I don't do a ton of UK that is not saying there is
(15:27) not money to be made uh it's just a different set of rules that I am not as like knowledgeable about in and out enough to advise a group of people every step of the way um with all of that said there are UK on sales tomorrow the pre-sale is uh tomorrow morning and then I believe I believe the public sale is like two hours later um will be putting up a call tonight for Coldplay um if you do not have a code uh they're floating around Discord for like as low as like5 or $10 if you'd like to buy one um I didn't I I was offline when
(16:14) they offered this code I believe it was to buy merchandise on their website um I missed that but a bunch of people did not so um there will be a call up about Coldplay tomorrow but I just urge you London for the most part is the safest place in the UK to buy tickets when you're talking about other spots like Ireland and other countries there are countries like Ireland that completely ban resale a lot of people got themselves in trouble with Taylor Swift in Ireland because they bought Taylor Swift not realizing the rules and they
(16:47) ran into a bunch of issues so overall London is the safest place to buy UK I will have a call up tomorrow for UK uh but it will be on UK time which I believe will be 3:00 a.m. and 500 a.m. eastern tomorrow again I'll need to look at my time zones but that is kind of London I mean cold playay UK uh the shows so far are doing very well in UK but again um the UK Market is not the American market and it's a different set of rules so if you're going to follow that UK right up for tomorrow for Coldplay um just understand that it's a different
(17:33) set of rules going in be prepared to have some patience uh but overall the buying process as far as Ticket Master Q is concerned uh is a lot a lot easier than what we deal with daytoday Ticket Master us um so yes there will be a call up later tonight for call playay it will not be super detailed it will kind of it will be very broad stroke but if anybody is interested in doing cold playay tomorrow there will be content for you to follow uh to try to do that um any questions about Coldplay Jordan uh I didn't have any followup
(18:13) questions about Coldplay uh we'll see if anybody else does but then after this I would just also like to briefly touch on Shawn Mendes potentially yes um any other questions about Coldplay specifically cool um so the other thing that Jordan brought up is Shawn Mendes um he is a like a tween pop singer that has not tored in a long time he has a very dedicated uh a very dedicated fan base who was younger when he first started making music and now they are older and have money and they still love him uh he has announced two shows one in Toronto
(18:56) one in Denver at Red Rocks um they are very different sized venues uh Toronto is about 2500 uh versus Red Rocks which is 9,000 um however both shows should do well there is a lottery sign up that I will post about tonight there is a bunch of content coming tonight on various things um one thing that is important and I will highlight this in my write up about this Lottery sign up they it's a it's a lottery sign up not everybody wins uh you know it will be a lottery for a unique code to buy tickets they are also offering what's called an auto
(19:43) buy what that means is you put in your credit card ahead of time and there are general admission areas in the venue uh where essentially if you win they will process your order for you so you don't have to or you don't have to go through the queue sounds like a dream here's why I'm not doing any of those signups because in the past on this site that has offered this um they have offered this Auto buy situation however they did not disclose that the any tickets that were purchased using the auto buy and again I just want
(20:22) to clarify autoby is not referring to like a bot or any kind of software this is Shawn Mendes official lottery entry and they are it will make more sense when I post the entry uh uh form but this is not I want to make this very clear none of this when I say Auto buy I'm not referring to anything botting or technology or anything like that but in the past when this website that does these Lottery signups has offered Auto buy anyone that does the auto buy those tickets were non-transferable and they did not disclose that ahead of time
(20:59) um so for me personally I am going to advise against using that Auto buy feature and instead do a normal entry and if you win you'll get a code that will be good for next week um for those two shows uh I don't know what the code value will be there will probably be some code value there um nothing crazy maybe 50 or 100 bucks I'm guessing um but it is certainly worth it sign up for those two shows uh and we I will have a write up about that tonight that is a free uh situation where even if you're not going to be around next week uh you
(21:40) should still enter as many accounts as you can because the code will probably have value and hopefully there'll be somebody who wants to buy it um so that is Shawn Mendes that is something else we'll talk about tonight in a write up uh just about entering that Lottery what shows there for and then about the auto buy situation um any questions about sha mundez cool so I want to talk a little bit about Metallica And I want to um I want to bring in um oh gosh I forgot your name already it starts with a D um I want to
(22:21) bring I want to bring in our our fellow who who bought our new fellow who bought some Metallica this week um would you you mind sharing just like what you bought and just walk us through kind of what you walked away with so we can talk about it a little bit uh yeah I can do that cool um so yeah I saw the guide for Metallica so it was profitable or at least it had the green little symbol beside it so I looked into the guide sort of looked at the tickets for a little bit before I purchased some got some in section 136 row T at blackburg
(22:57) which recommended one follow the guide recommended section and everything got a decent price on it uh what did you pay by the way just just out of curiosity I think it was oh 540 us for both of them and then okay and okay go ahead sorry no no what were you gonna say I was just so did did did were those the only tickets you bought you bought a pair in blackburg was there anything else yeah it was just those ones just those two cool Okay cool so um metal is our our big on sale this week um pre-sale started on Monday we've had pre-sales every day
(23:37) this week uh Tuesday was for Verizon Wireless customers or T-Mobile customers only uh you have to like link your account to Ticket Master to do all of that through your Verizon account it often breaks so I don't and it's very frustrating so I don't talk about it a ton because it just makes people frustrated uh but today we had a bunch of pre-sales for Spotify and um Ticket Master and a Live Nation pre-sale and a venue pre-sale and then we'll have one more pre-sale I believe tomorrow and then we'll have a big public sale Friday
(24:12) um and so Metallica is a really great spot to start with all of this because number one uh number one there's a ton of inventory these are stadiums they are huge venues uh that hold 50,000 plus um and there are a lot of pre-sales there's a lot of different opportunities for people to acquire inventory um now as always your best chance at uh the best inventory at the lowest price is going to be the earlier pre-sales as the week progresses when you have a ton of pre-sales like this is prices tend to creep up uh Dynamic price if you will um much
(25:02) like airline tickets will will uh go up in price as uh as the flight gets sooner uh and there are fewer and fewer seats available on the plane similar situation here when there's a ton of pre-sales there's also a lot of opportunity for the promoter or Ticket Master whoever to look at how tickets are selling and they can bump up those prices any way they want in real time based on what the demand and the activity uh the buying activity they've seen so whenever I post do a write up for um a a tour that has multiple
(25:44) pre-sales don't ever tell yourself well I'm just gonna I don't feel like getting up for this one I'm gonna I'll wait until there's tons of pre-sales I'll wait until do the one on Thursday because chances are number one there's going to be significantly less inventory available by Thursday and number two those prices are probably going to be higher on Thursday than they were on Monday because they have dynamically priced it as the week has gone on to meet the demand so that by the time we get to Friday the only thing typically
(26:14) that's left is expensive scraps and there are exceptions to that rule but that's just like a general concept of typically how these things go so um if read the write up I was very very very bullish on blackburg Virginia I am from Virginia originally born and raised uh I grew up about 3 hours from blackburg uh so I'm very familiar with that area and what goes on there there are two big college campuses within like six miles there it's Radford University which is one of the largest public schools in Virginia and then also you
(26:55) have Blacksburg which is obviously a force uh thanks to Virginia Tech hokey football and their engineering program and a bunch of other things so that combined with the fact and I talked about this a little bit the other thing that I really liked about this was Lane stadium has I don't believe has ever uh thrown a concert before um but if they have it's been only a handful over the years I cannot remember a concert ever being happen ever happening there um but so you have a so blackburg is about 30 minutes from the Virginia Tennessee
(27:32) border and so you've got all those people uh that don't live in Nashville Tennessee that live right around like where the Bristol NASCAR racetrack is um who never ever get concerts ever they either have to drive to Nashville they have to drive to Washington DC which is about five hours they have to drive to Richmond which is about three three hours Etc so for this to be right in their backyard um it's a big deal and then the other big deal that I didn't even really mention in my write up is if you follow Sports you know that the
(28:13) Virginia Tech fight song is a Metallica song every time that they come out on the field to do the kickoff they play interent Sandman and it is a huge deal if you have never seen this go watch a YouTube video just type in Virginia Virginia Tech hokey s Enter Sandman um that song is a huge deal in Virginia Tech it is basically a religion and so that is contributing as strangely as that sounds uh that is a school that is very big on football culture and that is playing a factor as well so all that is to say those are the reasons and again
(28:52) that is me just going through every aspect of this sh show the venue the culture um anything that could could be attributed to this show um in blackburg Virginia Tech Etc I am literally just walking through any connection that a fan could have to this concert that is my thought process when I am walking through these things um and I'm telling you that just so you can get an idea of where these thoughts come from when I say them um I'm not yeah I am literally just trying to look at these concerts these shows these events from a
(29:36) fan perspective and thinking about anything that could positively influence uh fan Behavior wanting to be at these shows um so with that said um he bought uh 136 rote which let me let me get a seing chart up very quick for blackburg so we can talk about this in specifics um so if you're looking at a cting chart uh 1306 is going to be 136 is basically going to be in the corner um just past the goal line if you're looking at it from a football stadium perspective though it's going to be in the lower bowl and uh it's going to be in the lower
(30:30) bowl it's going to be about halfway up this venue uses single letters and then double letters so it's a to z and then a a to ZZ um so it's going to be right right on right smack dab in the middle of the section and he paid 578 for I'm sorry 540 for a pair so roughly uh 270 a ticket uh for lowers and uh he's going I believe he's going to do very well on those and you know just taking a quick glance at section 136 um you know it quickly uh you have a couple of pairs in like the 225 range but it quickly jumps up to 300 three and
(31:15) a quarter uh if you have not priced have you sold these yet by the way no that was sort of part of the problem I'm running into like I uh so I put it on listed after you guys mentioned it last night and then they put a hold on it and they told me to contact their support so I messaged their support and then they said my information wasn't accurate so I went over it again like double checked everything message support again instead I redid all my information and when you say information is this is this personal
(31:48) information like a scan of your ID or information about your seats like an order receipt uh so like personal information they didn't ask me to put my ID but like you know name and address and everything and then okay said their system isn't verifying it and I can't sell tiet on their site got it are you a minor by chance no I'm not okay you don't sound like a minor okay that's really so typically that happens when you have miners that are uh trying to apply and and their social is essentially saying that uh you know
(32:23) they're a minor and they're not allowed to sell on there um I can't speak for them specific Al I will help you uh if listed has said that you know you can't sell on there I will certainly be happy to help you uh any way I can we'll talk about that offline a little bit um but uh you know when you do sell these uh you know one of the things that I want to really stress to people is that I realize a lot of you came from a sneaker background maybe ps5s gpus what have you where it's very cut and dry if something sells out in 2 seconds it's
(33:02) profitable if it doesn't sell out in 2 seconds then it's a brick it's it's you know worthless whatever um and those rules just don't apply here um tickets are a much different Beast um for various reasons but uh I would just encourage you to try to break that mindset I see a lot of discussion about oh you know they're they're sitting excuse me they're sitting uh they're a brick Etc and and that's just that's just not true I mean 50,000 60,000 seats uh is is a that's a tough that's a tough thing to move in in three minutes so um
(33:44) all of this is to say if you did buy Metallica tickets my advice to you would be to wait until after the public sale on Friday after because if you're a fan and you didn't get tickets in any of the pre-sales this week you're holding out hope maybe I can get lucky on Friday I've been trying all week and then once Friday comes and that show you know is all but sold out Friday afternoon then it becomes a reality that if they want to go to the show they have to go to Stubhub that is when you will see the activity pick up big time I would
(34:23) encourage you to look at prices right now for some of these Metallica shows I actually did a summary of the pricing and stuff uh late last night early this morning that's changed a little bit obviously but just make a mental note jot down some of these prices um that are happening right now and then go back and look at them Friday afternoon and I guarantee you that most of these shows uh will be higher on Friday than they were right now um and so if you did buy Metallica this this week uh especially blackburg I would encourage you to
(35:01) either price your tickets really high and when I say really high I'm talking about looking at the cheapest ticket in your section and adding like $150 or $200 a ticket uh you can always lower your price back down where you need it to be but if you price something too low and someone buys it you cannot get those tickets back so it's always best to price higher and walk that price back down than to price lower because you're too scared or you think it's a brick or whatever just let the market breathe a little bit um people are already
(35:38) freaking out about Metallica and we still have another pre-sale tomorrow and a public sale on Friday so um if you're new to the game and you came from a more cut and dry black and white resale like sneakers or ps5s nothing wrong with that just know that your mentality is going to need to shift a little bit because these are not sneakers at all uh you can't just toss them in the in the back of the closet until they become profitable so um all that is to say my man I think you made a great purchase blackburg is going to be I think the
(36:12) best performing show of the bunch we've already kind of seen that a little bit um and uh I I don't get yourself too worked up about the listed stuff I will I will help you even if we have to do it through you selling on StubHub as individual um that is not ideal but we can certain there are certainly options if if we can't uh if we can't get the listed thing to work but overall um Metallica has been a great buy so far the the cheap tickets are doing fine in most places uh my write up specifically uh encourage people to focus on the
(36:53) single shows versus the two-day shows and the reason for that is number one the two-day shows are more expensive obviously but also uh you cannot split up the two-day pass so if you're a Metallica fan and you just want to go to one show you don't necessarily want to go to two shows like that's not really going to be an option for you on the resale Market uh and so um it just gets really hairy with the two-day passes uh because it's the same barcode that is used for both shows so um I encourage everyone to stay on
(37:33) the single shows uh which it seems a lot of you did and um I the uh upper level seats are doing very well in most places uh you know at least a 20% return um excuse me and then uh you know your your floors um that is a very big general admission floor I've seen some people making some comments about you know the ga prices and you know they're sitting and Etc it's really important to remember that number one Metallica has an older fan base I would probably you know they they've ranged from college kids all the way up to like grandpas but
(38:13) uh I would probably say their average fan is somewhere in the neighborhood of maybe like 40 and a lot of 40 year olds don't want to stand on a ga field for a 5H hour show um for whatever reason either physical physical issues or discomfort or whatever so that GA field um is going to be fine it's just going to take some time for that many tickets that are all the same to clear out a little bit it's also very important as we talked about with Lincoln Park which only had a six week timeline until the show this is the opposite situation
(38:51) where we have seven to eight months for most of these shows which is a lot of time to for tickets to sell down on the secondary market for prices to creep up um for fans that missed out on the pre-sale to uh figure out they want to go and get their Logistics in in order um all of those things I think there are a lot of positive things working for Metallica um my personal advice uh for anyone that is holding Metallica is I would probably want to sell them with in like two weeks of the public sale or unless you're planning on holding them
(39:34) uh until about 30 days before the show uh where I think it could heat up again but um that is all those are my recommendations for Metallica if you participated this week uh you're probably in a very good spot as long as you did not buy really expensive upper level seats I saw uppers as expensive as $150 $175 a ticket and I just want to emphasize that like there are very few bands on planet Earth that I would pay over $125 a ticket for on you know on to to resell I mean you have your your Morgan wallins and your your
(40:15) adel's and your Taylor Swifts and stuff and those are anomalies those are not normal but and your average artist uh it is I would always want you to second guess paying more than $100 a ticket for a nose bleed seat because that is really expensive you got to think about it like if I buy this for $100 a ticket it's 130 a ticket after fees so I've got to sell these things for what $175 a ticket $200 a ticket to even make 70 bucks um a ticket so you've always got to think about like okay if should I buy these tickets well what do I have to sell
(40:56) these tickets for or to make a profit always be thinking ahead about what you anticipate doing with these and not just being excited that you acquired them because acquiring them is great but we're actually here to make money and not just spend it um and so I would encourage you when you're trying to make those tough decisions about those expensive uppers how expensive is too expensive think about it on the other side what do I have to sell these tickets for in order to make a profit do I really think that someone's going to
(41:29) pay $200 a ticket to sit in the last row of a stadium for Metallica is it possible absolutely is it risky sure um so that's kind of those are my thoughts um that was a lot to throw at everybody what thoughts do we have what questions do we have does any of that make sense does none of it make sense where do yall land on that if nobody else comes on I will yeah that's fine um but yeah so we had some people asking some questions in the chat that was answering there but we have another pre-sale for Metallica tomorrow
(42:06) correct yep we do yeah so um I don't have that pre-sale password yet but I will I will gather it up I will probably do a a similar just summary of I will probably do just like a similar kind of summary uh tonight just kind of how I did two nights ago uh or last night rather just about kind of where we are with Metallica and where we hope to be going but yes we have one more public sale tomorrow uh and then we have a public sale on Friday and um yeah again if you are new to this and you are not doing anything
(42:43) on Friday I would encourage you to pick a couple of shows on Metallica maybe a couple of two-day shows a couple of single shows and just watch the subhub watch the subub activity throughout the day and by that I mean the number of ticket listings uh and and also kind of just the prices on various things it's a great opportunity to learn and watch a market as it is in super high demand people are buying people are listing it's complete chaos uh but but watching that and if you really want to get deep into it keeping a very basic spreadsheet
(43:26) of this show I'm monitoring these three sections and I'm gonna I'm gonna jot down once a week over the next six months how many ticket listings and what the you know what the lowest price is in those three sections um that is how you learn ticket markets that is how you learn how to price um and stuff and well I know it sounds very boring and very tedious it is both um that is that is really how you gain knowledge um uh in this industry and again my writeups are great but I am one person I cannot cover possibly even put a dent in
(44:06) the entire ticket industry myself and so my goal here is to teach you guys Concepts teach you how to fish so that you can eventually uh expand what you're buying outside of my writeups into uh genres that maybe you're into maybe you're big into EDM EDM is one of my blind spots you will almost never see me do an EDM call it's not something that I'm very good at uh if you know I would hope that I could teach you Concepts so that you could start buying tickets in whatever Sports realm you're interested in or whatever music genre you're into that
(44:42) you know a lot about and you can apply those Concepts to those artists as well um so um and I lost my I lost my train of thought there but uh yes short answer we will have a Metallica more Metallica fund tomorrow um and again the thing you want to be paying attention to tomorrow we are now on the fourth pre-sale um is paying very close attention to the pricing and does this pricing seem reasonable you know you Unfortunately they do not make it possible to see what the previous pricing was I think they probably should
(45:24) in an effort to be transparent but uh they don't so you don't you don't really know whether that $125 upper level ticket um you don't know that it was priced at $55 on Monday There's no way to know that um and so it really the Thursday free sale tomorrow is going to be great for obviously if you get in early there will be stuff to buy um but it is really going to be kind of a state of the union of let's see how tickets are moving how many tickets still remain kind of where do we stand after four pre-sales before the public
(46:03) sale tomorrow and then We're Off to the Races uh for hopefully a very big weekend of Metallica sales um that is how I look at those pre-sales there's always of course a chance you'll find something to buy but I would go in to the pre-sale looking more for an education um and a state of the union of how many tickets are left left for this show for the public sale tomorrow and if you find something that seems worth buying that falls within the parameters of the call uh then obviously that's just a bonus cherry on
(46:40) top um but yes we Jordan we will do Metallica again tomorrow Beauty what else you got uh I see like Nick is typing a question in here um okay he said on the right up it says pre-sales Monday Tuesday Wednesday and general release Friday am I missing something um um no let me let me just verify because it is very easy to get those confused um let me just take a look at tomorrow and Nick what may have happened is like I will typically transfer information into a drop channel so like if we didn't transfer over like chokey
(47:26) had another call yesterday about Metallica um but it looked like on the original call yeah it just said Wednesday didn't say Thursday but yes there is one tomorrow there is one tomorrow uh but let's see it it looks like it's using the same passwords that it was using today so let's just see what they can tell us um yeah from what I can see it looks like your standard record and set list passwords uh yeah so tomorrow let's see public sale is Friday tomorrow there are pre-sales I mean I'm looking at the Atlanta show there is a
(48:20) pre-sale for the uh the soccer team if you're a season ticket holder there uh there is a venue pre-sale tomorrow so there there should be pre-sales tomorrow I I will gather up all of that it might not every venue may not have a venue pre-sale every venue doesn't have an MLS team so there may not be an MLs season ticket holder pre-sale tomorrow but I will round all that up uh and throw it into my update about Metallica tomorrow so everyone's up to date but yes there will be some kind of pre-sale at least for some of these venues tomorrow
(49:02) Beauty um and you know I will take a look at I'll go through all the venues uh tonight so you don't have to and I will uh you know if my recommendations change uh based on you know just the shows that are performing the best I believe it was like FedEx field and Landover Maryland where the commanders play and blackburg actually uh were the two best performing single days but we can take another look and see where things stand so I can give you a recommendation on venues to go for tomorrow um and then I will round up all
(49:37) those pre-sale passwords and uh also there is a there is Toronto tomorrow which T Toronto has they don't have City cards in in Canada and uh so they and they don't have like I don't think they have Verizon password like Verizon pre either so Toronto has a pass has a pre-sale tomorrow and they have not had as many pre-sales the rest of the week so if you're looking uh if you're looking for something to do tomorrow that might have the most amount of stock or the best opportunity Toronto might be your play tomorrow and again I will
(50:17) throw that in with all of my Metallica update for tonight [Music] um any other what other questions do we have I want to talk a little bit about sports I don't want to get super deep into it but there are a couple of things that I want to talk about with sports because uh I know that a lot of some of you are chomping at the bit to to look at Sports and uh it's a decent time to do that um any other questions about what we've gone over so far cool so Sports and and again we I could you know I could teach a college
(50:56) course on this for a whole semester we'll try to fit it we'll try to get the Highlights out here but number one with sports um the number one thing that I can recommend that you do for sports create a new email account number one number two use this email to solely sign up for the mailing list of every single major sporting team in the country as far as NHL NFL uh NBA and uh [ __ ] what am I forgetting uh the big four hockey basketball football baseball all of those teams you should be on the mailing list on this email account um I
(51:41) would also suggest like your your 60 or so prominent college football teams um and the reason that I recommend you do this is because number one especially for the college football the college basketball that a lot of it takes place not a lot of them use the same website that you see for blackburg uh Metallica that website is typically reserved for College athletics so it's not on Ticket Master so it doesn't make the rounds a lot because stays under the radar so if nothing else college football and college basketball are great thing to
(52:21) have on the email list because it will keep you up to date on when that stuff goes on sale now okay you sign up 300 teams on their mailing list who the hell wants to monitor that kind of email account uh nobody here's what I would recommend you doing from there use Gmail to your advantage set up a Gmail filter with for like any email that comes in that has the word pre-sale in it or password or code or anything that might signal that the email content is about some kind of ticket related on sale create a Gmail filter so anytime that an
(53:05) email from that inbox with all of your sports uh mailing list subscriptions anytime a ticket related email comes through you set up a Gmail filter so it automatically forwards to an email account that you regular that you regularly monitor that way literally the content is coming to you you are SI you're having Gmail or Google sift through those dozens and dozens of emails that you'll probably get every day from those teams and you'll essentially only see the ticket related content which is what you care about to
(53:43) begin with that is the single biggest free tip that I can give you about sports if you have any interest in doing sports uh that is that is the best free thing you can do uh I know for a fact every single year do Los Angeles Lakers send out um a unique pre-sale code to everybody on their mailing list for both the regular season and for playoffs imagine being able to get your hands on uh NBA playoff NBA Championship tickets for the Lakers because you had a unique code because you took five seconds to sign up for their email list and set up
(54:23) a Gmail F like a a Gmail filter um that is the kind of stuff that takes very little time and effort and money and could possibly result in a huge uh upside so that is my single biggest thing about sports um the biggest reason or the biggest difference between sports and concerts is a the majority of sports inventory is eaten up by season ticket holders uh by the time the the single games get put on sale a lot of it is picked through by season ticket holders um and they have adjusted those prices to reward the season ticket
(55:07) holder who pays a ton of money up front uh they you know the rivalry games your your Cubs vers white socks uh Red Sox vers Yankees all of that stuff if you're buying it alart you're going to pay a premium price for the option to buy just that game because that's the game everybody wants um the people the season ticket holders take all the games or some of the games if you have a you know a partial game package um and they get those tickets at a significantly discounted rate often season ticket holders pay anywhere from 25 to 50% less
(55:46) than non-season ticket holders if you're just going into an on sale on Ticket Master to buy Los Angeles Lakers single game tickets you're going to pay substantially more per game per ticket than someone who has season tickets and so when you're side by side reselling your your Laker tickets and their their cost is 50% less than you you quickly see why Sports become a little complicated they take a lot of research um and but you can you know a great place to start is with that email list if you are dying to get into sports I
(56:22) would recommend starting with a local team first do not try to call the New York Yankees if you live in Arkansas and try to buy a bunch of Yankee season tickets it will not go well for you I would recommend picking a team that first of all you enjoy if you're a hockey fan do your hockey team if you're a baseball fan do your baseball team Etc start with a local team and get yourself you express interest maybe start off with a partial game plan maybe uh the team offers 12 games throughout the year and some teams will offer playoff rights
(57:02) with those partial game plans so you will buy 12 baseball games throughout the year uh for let's just say the Texas Rangers and the Rangers make the playoffs and you as a partial season ticket holder get a code to buy uh to buy playoff tickets ahead of everybody else if they went to the World Series you get the idea uh Sports is essentially assumed to be a break even or a small loss situation during the regular season depends on the sport and the team obviously um the real money in sports is the playoffs and deep playoff
(57:46) runs um so that is where the real money is but I recommend starting local uh you know make friends with your ticket rep sports are an in-person thing you should go to games throughout the year you should meet your rep you should shake his hand you should remember how many kids he has and send him thank you cards and things like that that is how you build a relationship with a sports rep so then when Taylor Swift comes through the Texas Rangers venue your rep will think of you and say hey look I've got I've got a couple extra you know this is
(58:26) same situation but it happens it's happened a bunch of times your rep will say hey I've got some extra leftover tickets for XYZ like would you like to buy them at face value or whatever that is why you develop a relationship with your season ticket rep um but season tickets are more of a an in-person situation you're not just sitting behind a computer buying them you do need to nurture that relationship with your season ticket rep sometimes uh they will want you to come to come to the game specifically to meet
(59:01) them or whatever um but if you are looking to do Sports start local start small um and then build yourself up from there once you learn how Sports tickets work and you've had a little bit of success um I realized that I just opened a thousand cans of worms but any questions just about the basic concepts discussed there does that make sense to anybody does anyone have any like concerns or questions about anything that I just talked about there with shorts cool um would highly recommend even if you don't anticipate buying
(59:42) season tickets I would still recommend going through and setting up that email account uh because you just never know a couple years ago the the no last season the um oh [ __ ] who went to the Stanley Cup the Canadian team that went to the Stanley Cup not the Canucks uh I can't think of them uh the hockey team that went to the Stanley Cup they they decided to randomly put Stanley Cup tickets on sale and they only alerted mailing list members like 10 minutes before it happened so the only way you knew it was happening is by getting an
(1:00:19) email from there if you had signed up for there you've suddenly got access to Stanley Cup tickets that resold for like X um these are all extreme situations that I'm mentioning but the I am mentioning the extreme situations because um it takes very little effort to to create that email account and and set that up and you will have a ton of potential sports information coming directly into your inbox that you don't even have to go find excuse me um any questions about that we can get dig deeper into sports we prob need an entire phone call to
(1:00:58) entire voice call to do Sports thoroughly uh but those are kind of my highlights about sports and also hopefully that sheds some light on why I don't we don't talk about sports a ton because a lot of the opportunities with sports are related to season being a season ticket holder or being a partial season ticket holder um it is much more rare to have a non-season ticket holder related on sale that is going to be profitable um it does happen we talk about it a little bit but that's the reason why we are concert heavy on content uh because
(1:01:36) sports are just a little more complicated to acquire that inventory than your average concert um what questions do we have about anything we've discussed or anything else [Music] a few things I just wanted to quickly mention with everybody here um I know that we've mentioned in the server but because everybody here might as well mention it um we're currently working on um similar to the other retailer deal email that we have we are loading one of those up for artists so then we're just going to have like so it's essentially
(1:02:19) going to be a Gmail inside the server that's pulling all those emails through we have like 300 or so different artists emails that we subscribe to and those will aut be coming into the server and because chokey mentioned it will also do that with all the sports as well that's not to say that you shouldn't do it yourself because you can obviously catch things a lot sooner if you're on top of it but in the server we'll have that available you can set keywords to get paying for that information if you want um so like if you are super lazy you
(1:02:44) don't have to but I'd still recommend that you do uh guys nice for chime in here and and I did not know that that was news to me as far as I know and I am pretty active all around any Discord that has tickets in it I don't know that I know of another server that does that for their members that is a huge huge bonus for members if if that sounds just kind of willy-nilly to you I would encourage you to dig into that because the value there and the time that it would save you uh literally if you're lazy or just don't have time you have
(1:03:21) school whatever like that is a huge thing I can't name another server that does that for members that's huge make sure you take advantage of that because there is nothing but money sitting on that server it does take some time to sip through it uh but there are plenty of diamonds in that rough so that's a big deal make sure you take advantage of that that's a that's a that's a big thing for members it took us a long time to put this [ __ ] together to make the emails come through properly so yeah like it's our own and house stuff so I
(1:03:50) don't I don't believe anybody else has something like that yep 100% um did you have any other housekeeping notes Jordan uh not specifically for that uh when we're done the call I'm just going to go over because I like I know you'll have to go at the end uh just some of the events that we've been discussing recently like the calls that I personally been doing and kind of where they're at if anybody wants to look uh and sit through and see how those are performing um I can certainly I can stick around I've got a couple more
(1:04:21) minutes I would I know you wanted to take a look at I would like to take a look at um can I see what you've let's see what channel is it that you do your calls oh just these these other ones that you've been looking at yeah like the drop channels at at the bottom of the category y so um the way that we've been doing it is when things are in white those are just informational posts because like they have some potential and then red is like very low profit yellow is medium risk medium profit green is higher potential profit lower
(1:04:54) risk and then a mixture could be a mix of either just okay just to give people like a a really brief visual for those that want to focus on specific things so like some of the things that I just wanted to just mention with some people and like obviously if you have feedback on how the posts have been done recently I would certainly appreciate it um for those that have been looking at some of these posts recently we've been saving prior calls in the ticket archive just so that we can have access to that information um but then also like some
(1:05:24) of the stuff that's come up recently so I looked over the hve show that one seems to be like maybe slightly profitable it looks like it's kind of break even so that would be a show that probably would not have been so great uh the show in Charlotte right now when I had that pulled up I think that was performing the best and had some profit attached to it um with Ghost Face Killer and rayquan I don't see any shows any tickets listed on on StubHub for the December 7th date I believe but they have another date on December 5th and
(1:06:04) sixth and those guys right now they're looking like they're going for like a minimum of about 70 bucks uh but it does increase quite quickly and there's not a whole lot of tickets available so if you did get those tickets it probably wouldn't be unreasonable to be able to offload those if you just wait a little bit for like $100 plus y uh just something I want to add just about GA shows in general uh GA shows behave differently than a seated show because everyone's on the same playing field as far as seat location is
(1:06:36) concerned no seat is better than the other you do have Exceptions there sometimes you have a front pit and a back pit or uh balcony general admission floor general admission but typically general admission is general admission is general admission and so for those you're specifically number one obviously the show has to completely sell out to make the secondary viable play for people to want to go to Stubhub you know with seats it could be a variety of reasons you know maybe the show's not totally sold out but I want to sit in
(1:07:06) the best seats and the best seats are gone so I'm going to go to Stubhub with GA you know every ticket is the same uh so you had you are waiting for that show to completely sell out which I don't know if that that wuang show did sell out completely obviously we have we have a public sale on Friday but GA shows typically you need a little bit more patience they are lower priced typically they're cheaper um but they also might take a little bit of time to clear out uh some of those undercutters scared money mommy's credit card that sort of
(1:07:43) thing um so just be aware that not every GA show just because again just because the ga show does not sell out the same day does not mean it cannot be profitable it might just take a little bit of time uh and if you have a big timeline between the on sale and when that show happens you've got plenty of time to sell down or sell through um and and and suddenly you blink and a month passes and you've got a profitable event on your hands um the other thing that I wanted to add here is I'm looking some of these calls Jordan they look really
(1:08:20) good um just so y'all know I provide for other groups and so when I pick my stuff I can't always do small GA shows because I'd be recommending it to literally thousands of people and we could sell out the venue single-handedly which sounds great in theory but it's not great in execution um and so I have to pick those smaller venue shows very carefully because I'm recommending it to such a large audience however Jordan something that I could do for you guys because I really love just providing here and I love how many people just how
(1:08:53) active the the calls are and stuff I have a great time doing these what I could do to help you and help the group if you want to ping me when you put up a new post I will be happy to chime in with commentary additional stuff um just additional thoughts if I have any uh on these calls um I won't do that for I don't want to put that out to every group I provide for but I'm happy to add a little bit of extra commentary on Jordan's calls uh to both help him and then also just add an extra um opinion and set of eyes for some of this stuff I
(1:09:27) won't do it for every call but stuff that I have strong opinions about um if Jordan pings me just P me my DMs or whatever Jordan I'll be happy to kind of tag team some of these calls and add a little bit of additional commentary if I have something important to say um to help you guys just get another opinion and just have a more full circle understanding of the show and it's potential for profit I would definitely appreciate that and like so like with everybody um I'm very databased uh obviously chokey is as well but he also has a lot of past
(1:10:01) experience with a lot of these events so that's why he can provide a lot more insights on like this is what you should pay for these specific tickets whereas not with every show I can do that because I may not have that prior data um yeah and and I again a lot of that is for the most part I have bought tickets to just about anyone who has toured on the planet with the exception of upand comers like a chapel rone or a Sabrina uh Carpenter that are doing their first or maybe second tour so yeah I mean I've got 20 years of kind of just experience
(1:10:33) data analytics and stuff that I can certainly would certainly be useful for some of this stuff um so I'm happy to chime in I won't always have something super profound to say but I'm happy to chime in uh with just a little bit of extra commentary if that if you think that would help uh members and and help the group I'm happy to do that um and and I think that would be a good nice one two punch on on just offering a couple of different insights 100% I would greatly appreciate that sure and then um um oh sorry go ahead no I'm I'm
(1:11:07) good sorry I mean inter R go ahead uh I was going to touch base on with Seinfeld and Jim gaffan so like with that one I had mixed opinions on whether or not it'll perform because it's really large venues um Seinfeld was doing pretty decent in his recent shows that he was doing but those were smaller venues um with these bigger almost like stadiums uh it seems like so far with the current pre-sale some of the tickets like we mentioned that are closer to the stage are doing actually fairly decent so if you bought in and you got in a good
(1:11:37) price it does seem like those guys are doing good uh but like I mentioned with the floors if those are going to be at the top of the face value price I think those were extremely overpriced yeah I agree I mean look uh $400 you see a comedian I don't care who it is uh Seinfeld Seinfeld but first of all uh typically comedy does not do great in venues that are larger than like a theater so when you get into your Arenas which the this is and I know it's Jim Gaffigan and Jerry Seinfeld um but still I mean I think the cheapest ticket
(1:12:11) was like $85 or $70 or something that's a really expensive ticket to sit in the nose beds of the of the of an arena and listen to Somebody essentially talk um so and the other thing about comedy is uh almost always they will add a late show so if there if the original show is Friday at 7 o'clock they'll suddenly add a 9:30 show on Friday and a 7 o'clock on Saturday and a 9:30 show on Saturday as well and then all of a sudden you've got four shows instead of one um so for comedy I'm always weary uh you know it's
(1:12:51) it's very very few comedians can command big prices in arenas so always be I always try to stay cheap with comedy I try to stay under $100 with comedy unless it's something exceptional uh da you know Dave Chappelle in a super tiny venue or some other crazy thing but just as a general rule comedy in big big big Arenas normally doesn't translate well for a variety of reasons um and and you can see some of them playing out here with Jim Gaffigan Gaffigan's got a great fan base Seinfeld's got a huge fan base obviously but when you when you put them
(1:13:30) in a big venue and you slap a huge sticker price on it uh people just interest starts to uh wne a little bit so always be uh always be cautious of comedy in huge venues because there are very few people on the planet uh who are funny enough and have a fan base large enough to fill those kind of venues at those prices I should say if this was a $50 a ticket it would have sold out you know in 10 seconds uh but at you know to to pay 300 $250 Plus for someone to do comedy uh $500 for a pair you better have some damn good seats if
(1:14:12) you're if you're paying that much of course and then I also wanted to mention with everybody was Zack Brown uh I think this was a little slept on um because it looks like Zack Brown is actually performing quite well so far and I think like it's it's a relatively large Arena again but I believe it has potential to do very well um I don't disagree I actually slept on on Zack Brown uh just because I was all wrapped up in Metallica um uh oh this is the New Year's Eve show okay gotcha yep that that makes sense you
(1:14:53) know man uh uh for those of you who are too young to remember Zack Brown there was a period of like 15 straight Summers or something where Zack Brown did a tour every single summer uh to where it got to the point where basically his own fans were like you've got to stop playing shows so we can miss you a little bit so they took like I think they took like several years off and and they are starting to play shows again I believe they're going to play the sphere next year um at some point so that's that'll be something to look at uh but
(1:15:23) yeah New Year's Eve is always a dicey one because it's always more expensive than usual and everybody kind of has their own thing they like to do on New Year's Eve uh if you bought this good on you I did not I slept on this um and probably wouldn't have had a ton of profound things to say uh ahead of time so for those of you that had conviction about it and bought uh hell yeah hope you make money on it yeah and like I said um I'm 100% database when looking at this [ __ ] so I'm just looking at everything that I
(1:15:54) can see 100% data um and then like the last one that I wanted to touch on is we had one I think it was last week for uh rakee uh or Rim however you say it uh where was that call so this guy I believe again is a very low a much lower key show which of course chokey will not be providing for those guys uh but his shows it was flat $30 face value there is no I don't I don't believe yeah there's no tickets on the secondary right now for the October 3rd show but if we look at some comparables like for October 2nd for example um those ones
(1:16:33) are actually performing decent uh it's a ga show uh they're selling for about 52 bucks so again there's not going to be a ton of profit that's there but there is going to be some money that you probably could have made that's all I wanted to mention are you still there chokey cut out go away might have here problem no problem [Music] I missed the like last two sentences of that for Rakim so yeah like there's absolutely no shows on the secondary for him right now uh let me check I'm not
(1:17:37) 100% certain if he sold out is relatively lowkey yeah that was be my next question is it is it sold out on the primary because if if so and there are no listings on the secondary that's when you know that's a rare situation where you get that's so lowkey you get to pick your own price because you don't have anybody else to compare it to so yeah that day did Sello wow uh yeah that's that's a if there's nothing yeah that's a big one um you know obviously a ticket is only worth what someone's willing to pay but when
(1:18:08) you don't have competition uh you get to at least play around with what people were willing to pay so that's a big one guys uh I will make a point to start paying attention to Jordan's calls um and uh and and chiming in there because it seems like uh maybe even there might be some stuff that I can learn as well which is the great thing about this industry to begin with um so yes I will make a point to start jumping in and trying to offer Insight when I have something to say about these to try to encourage some folks to uh dip their toe
(1:18:45) in a little more for maybe something that uh they wouldn't have bought otherwise and I do just want to say that if you're looking at a call and your first thought is I've never heard of that artist I'm not going to buy them that is the wrong mentality your mentality should be let me head to their socials how many followers do they have how many monthly listeners do they have on Spotify what does their song stats if you do not have the song stats app s o n g St a TS uh that is a uh a free app that will give you analytics by city for
(1:19:22) any artist on planet Earth uh your first inkling if you read a call about an artist you don't know go find out everything you can about that artist and then decide if you want to buy it but don't just look at something and say I've never heard of them it must be nothing uh because there are bands every day that I look at and I spend a significant amount of my waking hours finding new bands um there it happens to me all the time so if that's your mentality change that mentality go figure out who that band is instead of
(1:19:51) just skipping over them yeah and like you guys may find like some quite often especially going forward there'll probably be more calls for a lot of like really lesser known hip-hop artists that I'm providing just because I'm very familiar with that world and then there's like a lot of artists that are like from like my childhood from like the the 90s um so if you are a little bit younger than I am you may not have heard of them but a lot of these bands I'm familiar with and that's why I'm I'm I can pull them out
(1:20:22) of the lists that we see I'm like oh that looks interesting then I start exploring them and that's why I provide information to everybody else absolutely and and that's a great example of uh you when you're doing tickets start with focus on what you know uh start with genres of music that you listen to um you know sports that you pay attention to all sorts of stuff even stuff like e gaming like there are fortnite National Championship events live that do insane ticket numbers that nobody buys because it's such a niche so
(1:20:59) like whatever your Niche is music Sports gaming whatever figure out how that translates into tickets and start digging deeper into what you already know um which is exactly what Jordan's doing here with hip hop and stuff um and that is how you start really buying stuff that the real the real key of doing this is anyone can buy and Swifts and buying you know the big stuff but buying finding the lowkey stuff um the niche uh little pockets that is how really dominating those and H and and finding those consistently is really how
(1:21:39) you make money here so I would encourage all of you to start digging Beyond just the calls you see in the group focus on something that you know and already love and are good at music-wise or Sports wise or what have you and dig a little deeper into that um but Jordan's doing uh Jordan's doing the Lord's work here by by literally showing youall the way on how to uh dig deeper into some of this ticket stuff because you know when I started providing here and started doing these calls uh I do not believe that he was
(1:22:12) doing that kind of stuff so um you know Jordan is literally painting uh painting the picture for y'all on how to do this so make sure you follow his guidance because he's really putting out a a lot of good content appreciate that um with that said guys I'm going to jump off um and I uh I will Jordan we will connect on when we can do this next month um and then I appreciate everybody being here uh and taking the time to listen to me talk uh I love doing this for y'all and love chatting um so if any questions always ping me in the chat
(1:22:52) please ping me anyway just because my notifications are all sorts of [ __ ] and uh if you can't always you can DM me and I will try to DM you same day uh unless I am traveling or flying uh but please reach out if you need help with anything um and uh good luck on Metallica I'll have a couple of things about Shawn Mendes and Metallica and some Coldplay stuff tonight uh so you'll get a couple of pings for me sorry about that they might be a little late uh later this evening I mean but thank you all for listening I appreciate it we'll
(1:23:22) be in touch soon we'll make some money to week with Metallica Jordan thank you as always uh for everything you do for me um and I will uh talk to you very soon thanks Shi take care and so lastly just for everybody that's in here um of course if you have any last minute questions before we hop off feel free but definitely make sure you sign out for Shawn Mendes um I don't think it was hit home enough some of his shows right now they're going for like $400 or $500 plus so there's going to be a reason why those codes sell for like
(1:23:53) 50 or 100 bucks because that's just a chance to buy the tickets so even if you don't want to buy tickets yourself sign up to the codes because if you do get one um you can make some money easily that way and I also seen that seat tools if you are part of their service if not don't worry about it but if you are they are doing that event as well so you should set up all your lines for Shawn Mendes to have a larger chance of getting potentially additional codes but it will be smaller venues so chances of getting codes will
(1:24:25) probably be slim so don't expect it but we can always try so yeah I know I'm not chokey but if anybody else has any last minute things that they want to say or questions please hop on the mic otherwise we'll be wrapping up R away here um it's just relevant to the whole Metallica thing do you think I just give you a call after we're finished up here uh yeah for sure 100% okay sweet definitely but yeah like for your for your listed account um for that specifically uh I may need some of your information just like your how what
(1:25:01) email you sign up with and your first and last name and I'll see if they can help you get up with listed um if you're not providing any fake ID there should be no reason why you don't get approved uh they just want your information for tax purposes uh so as long as you're not trying to script the system there's really no reason why you shouldn't yeah I don't know I'm just like a bit worried of the whole situation right like especially since he's pressing like get rid of these tickets in like a week or two otherwise
(1:25:27) you'll probably have to be waiting um and then getting declined uh to post my tickets on that website it's just you know kind of sucks it's just eating up time and I feel like I'm not really getting anywhere so I'm just sort of coming to you guys for some kind of solution or hoping you guys have a solution 100% so right after so like we can chat privately of course right after we talk um I I will send a message to my contact right away just so I get sun I don't forget and then we'll go from there um but yeah like I would assume
(1:25:59) you weren't providing any fake information or you weren't you weren't busted trying to do any type of ticket fraud in the past or of course not Bing tickets anything like that no Okay cool so then yeah there should be no reason and like uh like Chi said worse comes to worse you can just sign up on a place like StubHub and listen manually um it's not as ideal but you can certainly do it people buy and sell tickets directly through stub all the time that's what listed is doing on our beh have yeah okay sounds good yeah I'll just finish
(1:26:27) up here and then I'll give you a call for sure cool so if nobody else has anything else then yeah I think that was a good call uh we will do it again next month and just like everybody else I'm always learning what comes to tickets I'm still I would consider myself a novice with tickets but I've been slowly getting like a PhD from doing these sessions and um yeah I only want to expand it further going forward to be able to provide a lot more valuable information every single weekday so then we'll wrap it up there
(1:27:01) so I hope everybody has a good rest of their evening and I'm sure we'll chat soon