February 19, 2025; General Hangout & Q&A
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_tGSLZeXs
Summary
0:00 - Introduction and Discussion on VAs: The conversation begins with individuals discussing their experiences with virtual assistants (VAs). One participant shares that they parted ways with a previous VA due to their lackluster performance, specifically citing poor lead quality.
3:45 - VA Hiring Process: Participants discuss methods to filter VA applications effectively during hiring. The importance of setting clear expectations and monitoring performance is emphasized as crucial for successful working relationships with VAs.
8:15 - Scaling and Performance Tracking: The discussion shifts to performance metrics and tracking. The use of spreadsheets and other tools for tracking efficiency and productivity is highlighted. There's a focus on the necessity of constant monitoring to ensure that VAs are staying on task.
12:10 - Personal Experiences with Travel: The participants share personal anecdotes about traveling, reflecting on the costs of travel versus potential business expenses. One participant describes a recent trip to a resort, discussing the use of points to make travel more affordable.
15:45 - Conversation on Supply Chain Challenges: The topic transitions to discussions around running businesses in the ever-evolving marketplace, tackling issues such as supplier difficulties and lessons learned from past experiences in both e-commerce and traditional retail.
19:30 - Inspiring Stories from Community Members: Community members are prompted to share their personal successes, particularly regarding their ventures in e-commerce, and how their backgrounds motivated them to succeed in business.
24:10 - Future Aspirations and Goals: The conversation reflects on future aspirations, emphasizing the importance of patience and consistency in business. Participants discuss aspirations to expand their businesses while managing their current obligations effectively.
30:00 - Conclusion: The video wraps up with encouragement for continuous learning and adapting to changes in the market, as well as fostering a community spirit by supporting each other's endeavors.
Overall, the video covers a range of topics surrounding the operational aspects of running an Amazon business, personal experiences in travel and community connection, and insights into how one might approach the challenges of maintaining and scaling a business effectively.
Video Summary: Insights and Discussion Highlights
Key Themes: Virtual Assistants and Business Operations Transitioning to New VAs:
The speaker recently dismissed a virtual assistant (VA) due to poor performance and inefficient lead handling.
They seek better quality leads and are hopeful about sourcing a new VA from OnlineJobs.ph.
Managing Applications and Filtering:
A surge of applications (over 100) was noted; techniques discussed for filtering applicants based on specific instructions in job postings.
Performance Monitoring:
Emphasis on establishing expectations for VAs and regular performance monitoring.
Application of tracking sheets to manage productivity and output effectively.
Personal Experiences in Business and Travel: Travel Experiences:
One participant shared their recent trip to Antigua, discussing financial strategy (e.g., using points for travel).
Investments and Future Plans:
Discussions on personal life choices, relationship considerations, and aspirations in both personal and professional facets emerged.
Amazon Business Strategies: Discussion of Sales Metrics:
Insights into current sales effectiveness for various members, highlighting future growth plans and specific targets (e.g., aiming for $100K/month by year-end).
Dealing with Inventory and Shutdowns:
Experiences with inventory management, prep processes, and quick pivots made in response to market changes or personal circumstances.
Engagement in Community and Market Legitimacy:
Talks about the importance of building community networks and relationships within the industry; how collaboration can amplify growth.
Digital Marketing and AI Tools: Utilizing AI for Efficiency:
Discussions centered around the application of AI to streamline workflows and tasks.
Ideas about leveraging tools like ChatGPT for generating formulas and assisting in inventory management.
Future of Education and Skills Development:
Mentions of online resources and workshops for entrepreneurship and trade education. Encouragement for collaborative projects among group members.
Challenges and Reflections: Overcoming Procrastination:
Multiple members shared their struggles with distraction and the need for discipline to maintain productivity.
The importance of self-discipline, setting goals, and tracking accomplishments were highlighted as crucial steps.
Concerns about Market Volatility:
Discussions of the risks in cryptocurrency and NFT markets, addressing personal experiences and broader economic impacts.
Transitioning from Traditional Work to Entrepreneurship:
A recurring theme was the shift from stable jobs to the unpredictable nature of entrepreneurial endeavors, emphasizing the sacrifices required.
Actionable Insights: Setting Up Efficient Systems:
Implement systems to monitor VA performance and establish consistent communication for feedback.
Explore AI-assisted tools to optimize workflow and minimize mundane tasks.
Networking and Collaboration:
Engage with fellow entrepreneurs and leverage existing community discussions to access valuable resources and insights.
Encourage sharing of strategies and experiences to foster a collaborative environment for problem-solving.
Evaluate and Iterate:
Regularly assess business strategies, including sourcing methods and inventory management.
Stay flexible to adapt ideas that lead to sustainable growth.
Final Thoughts: The discussions highlighted the dynamic nature of entrepreneurial journeys, underscoring the mix of strategic planning alongside personal growth. Continuous learning, adapting to marketplace challenges, and leveraging community resources were key takeaways for participants seeking to expand their ventures.
Video Transcript
(00:00) it's a lot more structured and so like the VA that you had prior did you like just recently part with them yeah part with that VA probably two weeks ago maybe okay and was it like a performance issue were they just not were they find gotta um the leads were pretty bad like they it was kind of getting worse and worse over the past couple months yeah tried whole bunch of warnings here and there but yeah it just wasn't going anywhere yeah that's fair I mean with some people there's only so much that you can do right yeah exactly so hopefully this one
(00:37) works out better the new vaa that you found where did you find them at online jobs uh pH okay cool did you get a ton of applications like over a hundred in like two days yeah crazy yeah I mean it's like it's cool but it's like also it's like when you think about that like so many people are looking for work it's like there's so there's so so many people that need a job yeah it was crazy I I did like the online forms as well and within two days like 50 60 people it quite a lot yeah did you find like did you put it did you
(01:16) try like that trick of like putting in like any random instructions for them to like indicate in the title like say this or I said like a certain fruit and then I kind of filtered off based the ones who put that in subject so that kind of narrowed it down to like maybe 30 or 40 yeah out of like the 80 or so yeah yeah cuz uh I found like the very first time I did it if I didn't do that um it would have took forever to try to filter through all those applicants yeah there's it's it's crazy I even use like the filters on uh Google
(01:51) Sheets to help me out so that was pretty good for the the Google forms part M right on well I hope you're new one uh works out for you well I think a lot of it just very important about setting expectations and then just monitoring that performance um did you start utilizing like any type of like like RVA sourcing sheet or any kind of variants to try to track performance exactly I'm using the the sheet that you had there and then I did a couple lessons that I filled myself um kind of set that Foundation from the
(02:22) start expectations and everything is pretty good pretty good lesson yeah Beauty yeah like I find um right now we have including uh Nestor Jong who's in uh This Server helping us out here full-time we have I think it's nine full-time vas now and I've had some the longest one that's been with me right now has been just over two years so like not super long but a decent amount of time and I find like even so like even some like my longest employees like if you don't keep on top of them to a certain extent um per performance can start to
(03:00) dip and like if you don't address it sometimes like they'll just never get back into it so like it's it's very important when you see those kind of things that you try to address them as soon as possible I think it's just like a a a natural human nature thing like especially with something that's like they're not in an office they're not seeing you every single day um sometimes they can just people can get complacent very easily yeah that was my issue I was definitely too lenient at first for my last PA and then that kind of like bit
(03:31) me in the ass later down the line yeah and after a certain point if you with somebody it's like say you were super lenient and you have them for like six months a year plus and then all a sudden like you try to start making all these changes sometimes it's very overwhelming for them it just doesn't worked for super good hello everybody Ron Ethan Jaden aan how's it going all going everybody beautiful I'm still uh I still secretly hate you a little bit Ron because you're in Jamaica and I'm sitting here in cold ass to
(04:21) skatan to me Jaden you recently went on a trip is that correct I did I was in Antigua how was that Prett good and can't complain uh used I mean used a bunch of Hilton points uh at a allinclusive resort which would otherwise cost you $3,000 a night USD so yeah good bank for your buck enjoyed that enjoyed a lot of food and drinks and did that for a bit did some tourist hopping and yeah how long back into it how long were you there for uh about a week nice it was just yeah wish I stayed a bit longer and skipped all the 50 cm worth of snow
(05:13) storms we had in the last four five days was it just uh you and your lady yep nice are you going to be popping the question anytime soon uh we been dating for about 7 years uh I would say give it another year year and a bit it's time it's time she hasn't been hounding you yet no it it's uh I mean it's kind of two-way street part of why it's taking so long is just figuring out things on her end and stuff in her life as well so all in due time yeah start to see signs it's crazy um the one guy uh in here uh he has his username bra moment he's like
(06:07) 20 21 and he literally just got married I'm like damn you're so young to be getting hitched Inca are you able to hear me now yeah I can hear you now you're good how's it going good good are you not too bad not too bad here what's been happening on your end how are how are eBay and Amazon coming along good just I just slowed down on eBay just a tad bit um just focusing going heavy on Amazon right now um currently doing roughly 3,800 units that's what I did last month at least shipped in so nice and how many are you selling
(06:57) through every month my sell through it's still uh 4.5 it's better than the 5.4 we were at or 5.2 we were at before but yeah sales are they're going at least it's crazy you're still maintaining that I mean that's super good I don't know it's just the leads I pick I guess but uh just yeah just been delegating all the tasks I got virtual assistant finally hired thanks to you of course um finally got a couple people working for me as well for all the prep and shipping that's how I'm able to free up a little bit more time
(07:30) Beauty yeah other than that it's pretty much same old same old and how are the was one VA that you hired yeah I hired one VA he's doing pretty good honestly um he has a fair bit of experience and he was employed by a Canadian Amazon Seller before as well so he knows what he's doing I didn't have to teach him much just a little bit here and there and that's it cool was that one of the one of the guys that I sent you away yeah it was through your list yep cool cool I'm happy to hear that he's doing well yeah I yeah I sent those guys to
(08:06) you and I've I've never talked to them so it's hard for me to judge if they're going to do good or not right yeah of course um I interviewed all three of them and the one I picked he was the most competent at least even when he was speaking English and all that and uh just I asked him just some general questions as well related to sourcing and he was able to answer them pretty confidently as well that's why I was like yeah let's go with him and of course I had to f um follow your uh document that uh hire quicker but fire
(08:33) even quicker yeah with and like with with positions like that I mean like we don't have an exp obviously like you don't want to be an [ __ ] but like like in Canada like you have to give certain amount of notice unless unless you have a reason to fire somebody uh whereas like with vas you don't necessarily have that requirement so right I mean you don't want to be an [ __ ] and leave somebody completely stranded but it's a lot easier to filter through people that way and I I find like interviews and like just initial
(09:08) conversations it's very hard to judge how well somebody could actually do you you don't really know start working for you absolutely yeah because like somebody could just make up a bunch of [ __ ] when they're talking to you and you would never know until they start working right yeah that's why the interview was like five minutes I just wanted to see if he's a real person or not and he knows what he's he's confident at least and he was so I uh gave him access a couple days later and just let him do his thing and tweak some
(09:35) things and explain some things to do better and that's pretty much it Beauty and with you hiring people locally like have you have you secured like a warehouse space or are you prepping like out of your house yeah no no no I did secure the warehouse space it's roughly 3,000 ft it's massive it's in a the only thing is the way it's a little bit cheaper than usual is cuz it's in a residential area um so it's not Zone for anything commercial really other than just exactly what Amazon um is which is just dry storage prepping and shipping
(10:06) so I got lucky there and it's a massive warehouse for me at the moment um but hopefully middle of this year end of this year it'll completely fill it up and uh just start scaling even more and you have the entire 3,000 sare feet it's not Su no complete to myself and rent is roughly 33,000 a month including utilities sorry how much per month 3,000 yeah that's that's not bad at all no it's not bad um primally because it's in a residential area that's why um but there's a large enough driver where I can get an LTL shipment without any
(10:41) problems so um that's why I just decided to bite the bll and go for it no loading docks though no loading docks but there is a forklift nice nice yeah so it like it is in a residential space but it is an actual Warehouse is that correct it's not like yeah yeah yeah uhuh that's right yeah cool cool nice man that'll be uh very nice especially if you're going deeper into wholesale to help secure some additional uh yeah going super deep into the wholesale just slowly transitioning everything from OA just getting all the
(11:11) funds I can and then just going deep into brand direct wholesale type the deal now Beauty yeah and so with the employees that you hired to prep for you like are they people that you know or you just found some I just I put up a Facebook ad and um I just wanted someone who has experience in the warehouse field at least who knows um just how to Pick and Pack at the very bare minimum and um I got a an unbelievable amount of people messaging me regarding it so I just picked a few at random um called them all in at the same day and just told
(11:45) them I gave them like a little breakdown for about an hour hour and a half on how we pack how we do things um and there were I called four people total and I stuck with two okay and so do you have them fulltime or I would imagine part time it's part-time just on an on call basis pretty much but soon enough I'll probably need them full time that's very exciting M and you have a lot of space to grow into of course 100% without a doubt but now that I have the space I know I can grow yeah it's it's going to hopefully
(12:20) light a fire under you that's like I have to fill up the space yeah yeah without a doubt cuz when I was working my basement I remember it was completely jammed back to the brim and it was roughly like 600 800 square ft and uh it wasn't fun taking up 20 to 30 bucks at a time couple times a week no definitely not no so right on so are you having them I imagine it's still early so I imagine like you don't you don't have the prep folio Source yet do you s what did you say like it's it's still early that you just like you just recently got the
(12:53) space so you don't have the prep fully outsourced as of right now do you no no no no no prep is no nowhere close yet no okay yeah I'll slowly get into it the weather's just been absolutely terrible here as well we got completely [ __ ] on with an unbelievable amount of snow and it it just kills your motivation man I'm telling you it's unbelievable I I know I know like I honestly I'd rather take the cold that you have and like minimal snow compared to how much snow we got here ridiculous I don't know if we had uh that much snow
(13:24) but I mean we get consistent snow all winter every winter right so yeah yeah um but yeah like sometimes like having to clear out the [ __ ] the the driveway of the warehouse and [ __ ] is a [ __ ] pain in the ass it's terrible I also run a landscaping company and I also have a couple plow contracts so I I'm lucky enough to have my own plow truck and all that and um that's another reason why I was able to get this space cuz it was through one of my Landscaping buddies and um it's a multi-purpose I'm not doing it just for
(13:57) Amazon nice sorry like you you said you run a landscaping company as well yeah I run a very small landscaping company we only we mainly just do it in the winter time and um it's just a few residential driveways and stuff nice yeah every time I talk to you tell me you're doing all kinds of additional things I swear I'm doing a little bit of this bit of that I'm I'm very well Diversified to say the least I swear you're doing more [ __ ] than not but I'm [Laughter] doing uh that's funny that's that's though man you're yeah
(14:32) exactly you're not super old are you like no I'm 22 Yeah because you're still in school right yeah yeah y damn damn what's good man I'm happy to hear young guys like that are able to to succeed the way that you are you do what you got to do at this point the economy is absolutely terrible it's unbelievable our dollar has gone to complete crap do you still live at home with your parents yeah yeah I do I my my costs are minimal that's why that's why I'm able to get away with a lot of things that I do [ __ ] yeah that's solid yeah yeah like I my
(15:07) costs are pretty much nil I just keep it down to a bare minimum whatever I make reinvest reinvest and just stack it up that's the best way to do it yeah there's no need I don't need a place or anything like that I'm happy where I am that's it if I ever need a place to sleep I can just sleep in my warehouse 100% be like Elon M just sleep on the floor that's right definitely but yeah no like that that's beautiful I'll help you scale so much quicker than a lot of people can yeah without a doubt yeah it's also just a
(15:37) way of marketing yourself too um I've seen that by saying that you have such a large Warehouse usually implies that you're somewhat successful at least and a lot more people are willing to uh deal with you in that sort of sense as well 100% like we still have a small Warehouse base and I've had actual suppliers come and visit us and I I could tell when I met them outside they're kind of like what the [ __ ] cuz looks kind of it looks kind of shitty on the outside but then once they once they got in and they seen how we're set like
(16:03) oh like you guys have like a real operation going on here like yeah man like we utilize our space super efficiently without a doubt yeah I'm just reluctant to move because it's so cheap how much are you paying 500 bucks a month and how many square feet is it a th 800 oh okay that's pretty good yeah yeah but we also have a uh I think it's a 20 20 x 20 pad on the the exterior too so like we can easily move around pallets we have our recycle bin out there um like it's it's not enough space but we we can certainly and we do make it work
(16:42) uh but the thing that I would certainly like would be a a loading dock yeah that's one thing that I probably will um be missing out on but as long as I have a for Cliff won't be an issue honestly yeah 100% yeah you won't even have to pay for lift gate so no nope not at all yeah that's nice how about everybody else what's going on with everybody else not much really I'm just doing some prep right now while I'm listening to you guys and yeah that's about it how many units are we prepping today uh I think not too many like 250
(17:23) 300 I think something around there okay okay just you yeah just me you don't have the girlfriend helping you out no no she's at work right now ah you tell her call in she did the other day it so funny we took down I had like a big shim in every single unit was poly bagged he stayed home and help me poly bag everything it was puts on the TV and and poy bags away we're like in a in my parents basement right now so it's got like stuff all over the floor and I she put on the TV and prep away beautiful and so how many units are you pumping
(18:01) out per month right now Ethan um I'd say like around a thousand okay and do you think do you have any goals of where you want to be by the end of this year um as far as like sales goals this last month I just hit 50k so I'd like to hit 100K by the end of this year per month that's that's the goal beautiful and yeah that's that's pretty much it right now I don't I don't have anything in terms of units breaking down I'd like to build up some better systems I feel like I have a lack of understanding of how many units I'm
(18:39) prepping how many units I'm shipping how many units I'm doing like per hour i' like to get a better grasp on some of that data so that's definitely a big goal coming up here that I'd like to build some systems around that I would say like a super easy way to get started is just um just start tracking when you're working how how many hours it's taking you and how many hours or how many units you're able to produce make it super simple to start off with and then uh you can very easily just divide on how many units you're producing
(19:04) versus how many hours it's taking you and then you can get a whole feel of how many hour or how many units per hour you're able to produce and then from there you can start building up things on like it's like okay like say I'm doing 40 or 50 50 units per hour that's like okay well I know my efficiency can probably be higher what can I do to help increase that and then we can also figure out how much it costs us to produce each and every Asin and that really helps us understand of expenses right yeah definitely I'd love to expand them I
(19:33) started just like doing a basic um tracking of like how many units I'm producing per hour but I find when I'm like when I'm working on my computer I'm locked in I'm focused when I'm prepping I get distracted very easily and that's a big issue for me especially cuz like like I'm I'm in a just a basement that's basically just a giant open space like my B everything is right there like my whole kind of life is surrounding me and I find it's very easiest like for prepping to get distracted down here yeah so something
(20:04) like that and like I get that too like I have employees that prep way more efficiently than I do I I wouldn't say it's like I wouldn't say it's that I get distracted but I think they're just more efficient than me in general like they can move quicker than I can because I'm getting [ __ ] old um yeah but uh yeah like I don't know like how like with your space though like if you could try just while you're prepping try to remove those distractions and like maybe just like throw your phone on like airplane mode and stuff that help you out to yeah
(20:30) definitely I've been trying that recently and just trying like no TV nothing and just like really trying to to uh just focus on what I'm doing because I find even it's it's easy to put a podcast on or TV in the background or something while you're prepping and then it's easy to get distracted into that even without noticing it that's been an issue for me for sure and then as far as my girlfriend helping me out like she will not prep without something on the TV or something like that so that's that's understandable but then
(20:57) it's hard to track her efficiency when she's obviously just doing it for free and helping out and I'm not going to like force her to no no headphones no nothing get back to work uhuh bed quicker no breaks we got 12 hours take a break um yeah no I get that I mean like maybe putting on some uh some loud music on your headphones or a speaker might music that you're already familiar with that you're like not like oo new song get distracted by that some stuff we already know that might help yeah definitely thank you yeah like I mean when we're prepping
(21:33) we have a music just blasting I find that like that does help a lot yeah 100% when I'm putting my headphones in I can definitely get in when you get in a good Rhythm when you're prepping it's easy to fly through some unit it's just I find definitely if I like NE on in the background then it just it's a waste of time to be honest yeah Beauty man and then so yeah um where are you wanting to take your ticket business this year too I'm not sure exactly what the goal is I was kind of thinking that yesterday after our our ticket call of what like
(22:09) what part of my business I want to scale to be tickets and what part Amazon I was kind of thinking around like 6040 ideally would be the goal if we if we could get there by the end of this year um I think that would be ideal but I find it very hard to predict how much I'm going to do in tickets on a monthly basis like like like so far this year I think I've done like $2,000 in Revenue but then next month I have like $115,000 in inventory to sell through and like the month after that is like next to nothing and then I have like a whole
(22:40) bunch of inventory after that and it's it's hard to predict where the business is growing and like a solid growth rate because I don't know it just depends on what events are available I guess for sure I think like a lot of that like don't have as many tracking tools but I think a lot of that will come down to just having consistent purchases for events and then like if you're having events that are basically coming up like almost every single month then that's how you can better gauge consistency I suppose but there will certainly still
(23:07) be some major fluctuations I imagine no matter what yeah know it's crazy like one one big sale can make the whole month and the next month can be can be dry and I guess as as I grow I'll start to fill in those gaps but for now it's it's definitely hard to predict how I'm how I'm going to grow I guess yeah for now that I'm just focused on buying as much ventory as I can and focus on profitable inventory and slowly scaling up accounts the nice thing with that though is I imagine like you're not having to spend
(23:36) a whole lot of time on that like on that business as as a whole right yeah no not at all like I'll I'll pretty much like Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday I'll go on like box office box or like take a genius before and kind of see what on sales and if there's anything that pequs my interest and then like R through your your calls and chokey calls and that sort of thing and then like outside of that I'll do a little a little bit of prep like get the accounts all logged in and Gmail's logged in night before release and then
(24:08) yeah it's about just buying the tickets I find though if I am working like that like if I'm doing Amazon say I'm sourcing that morning I'm going to Source like 4 hours that day well if there's a ticket releaseing like 8 10 11 12:00 a.m. it really ruins the consistency like it's hard to get in a good Flow State when I'm switching back and forth between tickets and Amazon sourcing 100% that might be like ways like on big heavy ticket days you might either need to just know Amazon sourcing that day or it's like really early that morning or
(24:39) later that day might be have my time block for Amazon sourcing and not try to split it up yeah I'm just been trying to do prep now in between um tickets that's been kind of my go-to cuz we have like a little storage closet we've been shipping out a couple times a week right now even though um there're smaller shipments so I've just been trying to get as much prep done in between ticket leases as possible and then Source after them is kind of been my plan so far yeah and right now right now how much time on average per day or per week is
(25:08) your Amazon business taking up for you um honestly that's hard to give a good estimate I haven't done any tracking of exactly how much I do I'd say I work probably 50 hours a week just on like tickets and Amazon combined but I'm also spending a lot of time like I just General flips and like different Discord groups and that sort of thing it's hard to put an estimate on how much time I'm actually doing I need to sit down and track how much exact like during my day how much time I'm spending doing actual Amazon tickets and then just like
(25:41) General reselling cuz I do a lot of switching back and forth and it's hard hard to gauge how much time I'm spending on each each task 100% right now like I think it's like fine like where where you're at but like as you start getting closer to the goals that you're wanting to hit um you'll probably not not necessarily but you'll probably find like you'll soon hit some plateaus and you'll have to start finding out why and I guarantee you like you're going to have obviously probably eventually Capital bottlenecks but you'll probably
(26:11) also start having time bottlenecks so you'll need to figure out where to best spend your time yeah I've definitely noticed that already some of those time bottlenecks and then also kind of the like I don't know how to explain like like personal bottlenecks of like almost feeling disappointed in your day cuz you switch around tasks so much that you feel like you don't accomplish anything like you're doing a whole bunch of a little things instead of accomplishing there's like a few big goals for the day so that's been an issue for me recently as
(26:38) well so I'm I'm interested in like if you're willing to share because I think like that i' I face that a lot and I think a lot of people do the same thing so like your standard day when you say like say you have a day where you don't feel like it's accomplished and you've done like a lot of little things and didn't accomplish many things what kind of little things are you are you do you find yourself that you tend to be doing that you don't feel accomplished with like let's say I want to source for the day like say I just want to Source three
(27:04) hours today I'll begin my sourcing and then maybe there'll be like a restock of something well that distracts me that takes way I place an order and then maybe I like go check my sales and then I get go back to sourcing and I'm just like takes me a while to get back into it like I'm still focused on sourcing but I'm not really in that flow state where Everything feels natural I guess and then just keeps switching between tasks I guess getting distracted by like like I live with my girlfriend in the basement like she's down here doing her
(27:35) stuff that can be distracting sometimes so I'll switch between like sourc thing and I'll do a little bit of prep and then I'll like tickets or something restocks or set up a bot like I've been botting Walmart with Stellar a lot recently and they've had a lot of like updates who have to tweak accounts and like manual manually log in and change things and I've been finding like I I want to take that as a PR priority like I want to have that bot set up cuz it's worked well for me in the past I've got some I don't know some good
(28:06) releases have happened so I really want to have that set up so then they'll update and I'll step away from sourcing to do that and I guess jumping between tasks in that sense for sure so like when you have like a a big task set for yourself like when you want to like Source three four hours in a day um do you specifically make make it so that you want to Source a certain amount of time or that you want to spend a certain amount of money um normally it's a time goal and sometimes like if it's the beginning of
(28:39) my like credit card statement then I'll I'll set like a financial goal if I want to spend whatever but I think normally it's a time goal do you mind me asking why it's a time goal over like a a metric like amount spent or lead Source goal um yeah that's a good point I haven't really thought much in in terms of a a lead Source goal I always thought of a time goal so I would have an excess of leads so when there is like dry spells or like I I don't have time to Source then I'll have an excess like I I always want to obviously continue
(29:14) building my leads database and that was my primary concern just keep sourcing even if I have like enough leads to spend on okay so like you like with your lead Source be source for like three or four hours hours you are sourcing a lot uh and not necessarily purchasing but you're you're sourcing to build like your lead database is that correct yeah and like if if it's the beginning of the statement I'll spend as I'm sourcing if I come across something that's profitable I'll spend as I'm sourcing as well okay so I would suggest that uh maybe you
(29:52) look at it like a performance metric instead of necessarily like a time slot so like say like figure out your average on how many leads you Source in a three or four hour time slot and then instead of setting that specific goal of like I want to Source three or four hours it's like okay like say if I can find five or 10 solid leads in in in this time period set that as your metric and then just work at doing that as quickly as you can and as stupid as it sounds try and set yourself like I have to have this done
(30:22) by this time no matter what and like almost like what I do was like I tell myself uh I'm going to die if I don't do it by this time I say I mean my business will fail right so like it forces you to do it so it's like it's like okay like I I need to like get into like that flow State now and start doing it and whole ass and like you might find that if you do that maybe you're able to do the same performance in one to two hours instead of you just subconsciously stretching out to three to four hours okay I I I'll definitely give that
(30:56) a try and when you're tracking your like leads produced per hour are you using like your VA spreadsheet or you just like I don't know like record your leads and then do a little tick for your hour if you know what I mean so with myself um it's been a while since I've specifically had to Source myself um I've done it recently since we launched like that new US list because I'm still training uh I'm still training the new vas right so I need to make up slack for that uh but yeah so like what I would do is if I was tracking my own production
(31:30) what I would do is I would specifically look at the clock start my timer essentially I'd start a timer on my phone like a stopwatch I suppose and I start now and then I would just keep producing them into my sheet and then just keep filling that up and then once I'm done I would stop my clock but then I would just go through and I would like take probably like 20 minutes or so and just review them and just see if I'm going to disqualify them on myself and then once I have all my qualified leads that I would deem acceptable that I know
(31:56) that I produced this many leads in this many hours okay yeah that that makes sense I I'll definitely give that a try and just see where I'm at yeah um when you're first trying that like I wouldn't count in your time that you're qualifying the leads for yourself like realistically when you're producing your own leads and like where you're at in your own business like when you're putting leads into your own sheet I would doubt like you're going to go back into and disqualify some leads uh but it's always possible because you may miss something
(32:26) uh I wouldn't really count that to WS your time uh especially when you're first getting started um but it may also help help you realize if you're track like say if you're just trying to just load that sheet in it may also help you realize like how accurate you are if you're continuously disqualifying all your leads and like where you need your your personal processes need to improve yeah definitely that makes sense and then like if you have a database like that too and like say if you're qualifying them like with the
(32:57) like the lead sheet that we use for Bas it's kind of made for that you can very easily go back into it and find like say like leads that been disqualified as like out of stock and then you can just like take like one time block and just load all those into like restock monitors all at once if you're wanting to monitor those guys yeah definitely I'd love to I'd love to eventually expand to uh build some sort of database like I'm a computer science student right now and i' i' like one of the final projects for
(33:20) my course this year is to build a web application and I was trying to figure out a way to like build some sort of leads database that I don't know could be a digital cuz obviously spreadsheets work amazing and you can build huge business off spreadsheets but I'd love to have some sort of web application to to track my leads in like track replans track what's out of stock and revisit all those cuz I find I get lost and lost of spreadsheets like even even if I'm marking things out of stock like I I use your leads database and VA sourcing
(33:51) tracker that I'll forget to go back to them so I'd love to build out in some sort of system around that yeah I know we have a couple people in here that have been working on like their own personal projects but uh whether or not those will become like production things is another thing because I know like it can be hard to find something like like say as like a an off the-shelf product because like so many people have like different needs for what they want right have you looked into uh using AI like uh bolt cursor
(34:25) lovable I I haven't like I I used for lots of things I'm I'm using but I looked at any of those at all those are really good that cursor is probably the best but that's more advanced b. new good for beginners essentially you can prompt it and it'll and then it'll it'll create a pretty a Deployable GitHub it'll create Deployable app and you can Tinker with it and modify it as you go and it actually does a pretty job or especially you like a database you can um have uh what do you call it a relational database you can use uh queries with it
(35:06) you do natural language queries pretty I would I would say definitely look into that because there's there's been a lot of people that are using these create full fun fully functional apps that are they're actually making decent money off wow yeah that's awes what were the names of them Bolt new bt. new and that's like lovable.
(35:39) Dev and then the the other one I mentioned was curs so um just I think I think cursor is actually one of the most highest um has one of the highest revenue uh application regards to AI I think it's actually worth the most worth more than even per perplexity if you've heard of that yeah yeah I've used perplexity a little bit cursor is is pretty up there it's pretty big yeah I'll definitely be taking a look into that thank you and I guarantee you if you throw the ideas out there you'll probably find a couple people in here that would be
(36:16) willing to collaborate with you on a project like that like just for personal use yeah I know I've seen some like flipper a few other people making some pretty interesting Tools in here it's pretty awesome we have quite a few people in here that are very very upep at uh at programming yeah yeah I mean the future is going to be essentially no code programming like you had those uh no code apps like make and those other one um Bubble and a couple of these other ones platforms that you could essentially no code but with Ai No code it's just a
(36:54) whole another level like I've been using even if you don't know any programming you could get away with creating uh functioning apps on the I think I mentioned in in um comment earlier a few weeks ago there's these kids that created this uh calorie tracking app just by taking a picture uh and then it tells you approximates how many calories it has like the food that you're taking a picture of and kids are like 17y old and yeah I mean they're making millions per month on that yeah it's it's crazy but people are
(37:30) building right now like even I was just playing with uh repet the other day yeah and even there like AI agent built in there is pretty insane what it can do yeah and then there's also there's a few apps that are actually copy apps copy coder I think it's called I haven't really looked into that but copy coder essentially give a screenshot of the software and it'll just replicate it wow that's scary I did that with Chachi PT quite a while ago Chachi PT also has that functionality I I gave it a a screenshot of a Chrome extension I was like build
(38:06) this and it made it semi functional like almost immediately yeah that's super interesting I feel like those those tools you can build by yourself are really going to be huge for for the Amazon space at least yeah like I know PE I know there's people that basically save a lot of money on uh what do you call it um llm cost because they run it locally so you know the the major cost for using these is the API right so the API cost for chat gbt or running those llms um it's a lot more expensive it's not it's not just that monthly that
(38:48) you pay right so that's where the most of the costs come in when creating these apps so people do run them locally there's few llms that are more that I guess I would say smaller uh than Chachi but they are good for coding and stuff so if you have a decent enough graphic card locally save a lot of money yeah I'll take a look I'd love to just continue building out some of these smaller systems and applications that could just help with efficiency in general well there's so many different kinds of tools that you can build that
(39:29) can be helpful in all different kinds of ways right like we've leveraged AI to help build some the tools that we have in the server but also some propri proprietary stuff as well and yeah we can do so at with very limited budget like we don't need to hire developers anymore like we used to yeah that's amazing and I saw I think it was Dan maybe was posting um he was able to pull some data and generate a graph of like the units in transit and like unit shipped and like that sort of data would be amazing to see from my
(40:03) business I think he has some pretty Advanced systems like I don't think he's shown everybody everything what he has going on but I'm pretty sure he has some pretty Advanced [ __ ] going on uh Cole chillan I have a question for you what's up do you have uh push to speak settings on your mic yeah uh I do I usually just mute myself you should turn off the push to speak all right it consistently Cut Is it is it that loud no is it that loud it just consistently Cuts you off when you're talking oh okay oh no it's it's
(40:40) it's okay well the thing is I have a it's not it's not because that it's because I have a detachable mic and yeah it wasn't positioned properly so okay it's like one of those um mics that you stick onto your headphones right separate one yeah so I I didn't have it really stuck on probably fair enough uh have you played with uh deep seek at all didn't get a chance to I probably will soon I was thinking about doing it this week getting it to run uh and see how it goes but I tried the I just tried the app on my phone and I mean it's
(41:25) decent I haven't tried it for coding if that's what you're referring no I I was just like mentioning like in general oh yeah yeah it's I mean they cause a market crash I felt it in my pocket yeah I just woke up one day I'm like yo what is wrong with my portfolio today did did the video the video recover from that yeah um I think they're still below what they were yeah I haven't really checked I don't I don't make it a point to check myself CU usually check it like once a month or something but uh I just saw the news and I was like what and
(42:02) then I got some alerts I'm like what is this what's going on and I see all they pretty much undercut uh what's their face um open Ai and yeah I think they're still down a little bit but they're still massively up since uh since 2020 so and I think they're going to go up higher even more cuz there're so much cuz they have essentially a monopoly on the uh not only the gpus but on the processing uh sorry the software side where pretty much all the llms are based on using the Kuda cor technology and the uh was that other thing
(42:45) called yeah they're basically built on uh all the LMS and machine learning all that stuff is built on their infrastructure or they use it more than AMD because amd's AI stuff isn't or machine learning and that sort of stuff isn't really efficient so a lot of the dev work actually goes on using Nvidia gpus hence why I made some good money selling the graphics cards but nowadays it's there's not that much demand for it yeah like the the founders they Founders are selling the founders are selling because they're just cheaper MSRP
(43:22) compared to the aftermarket ones or the aib ones the brand name ones and they're more limited and like there are as weird as weird as it is there are like quotequote collectors for yeah they like the aesthetic of it yeah people buy for Aesthetics you know like if it's a white card people prefer that over the nonwhite cards because they go with matches their build color so yeah yeah um but yeah like when I seen with deep seek when they released and they mentioned like they were using very limited on Nidia gpus and like they were able to
(44:00) produce a sare like you know fractions of the cost um yeah it wasn't surprising but then it came out maybe they weren't super truthful well I think you'd still need like at least last I looked at it I looked at a very surface level but it you will need multiple graphics cards like you couldn't just do it off of a dedicated GPU on your computer you would need sign you would need at least like I think like ,000 worth of processing power computing power right I've seen people running like deep seek like some of like their
(44:36) smaller versions locally yeah yeah you can run the lighter versions yeah there's other there's other lighter llms that you can run too yeah quite a few that you can run locally yeah it was uh I mean it's good to see because it helps with consumer like consumer pricing and makes sure that there's competition there I mean now you're probably I guess within maybe a few months to a year or so you'll probably have probably hire people vas that are proficient with um coding with AI because like this is back when um this is back when I think two
(45:14) years ago two yeah about two years ago there was this um uh Silicon Valley Convention kind of on uh conference going on regarding Ai and machine learning and all that stuff essentially there was this this big wig from like a big pretty big tech company and you saying that our Junior levels just on using chat GT at the time they were able to produce products similar to our senior devs so the Gap has closed significantly and software is going to be pretty cheap and if not like free because people you you'll get to a point where if someone
(45:56) will just voice command say look I need to do this and you'll get a solution for it right well and like when with all like these AI agents that are being released as well like yeah that will help with so many additional things and tasks oh yeah like I can already see some aspects of like I think it'll take a while because it's not super straightforward but it's like you can almost use AI agents to do like Amazon sourcing for you it's not there and I yeah it's not there yet and like I don't know how long it'll be just
(46:30) because like Amazon's not super cut and dry scientific but it wouldn't surprise me if it gets there very soon well it depend on the training data and how and the information they used to train the AI agent right it would really depend on the person who creates the agent so how they tailor make agents and I think there's few businesses that actually create custom agents for you based on the information you give it and what you want so the tailor make it right and that is going to be pretty big industry I believe because if you can create
(47:02) something custom to your business that essentially you know provides so many efficiencies and impr you know overall how you run it and the data that you get out of it and all the system involved y so yeah it's pretty exciting to see but yeah like even like some of the levels of like just information and content that some AIS can produce like from like videos to scripts to oh yeah the video stuff is crazy some of it's [ __ ] insane it's it is insane yeah especially you're on X if you see that stuff yeah and like wild
(47:37) like even now like already it's getting very hard to distinguish if just standard content videos are AI produced yeah it's like it's not like it's still relatively early like the First videos you see like will Smithy and spaghetti and his face looks all [ __ ] up it's like now it's hard to distinguish like it's that's even a fake video like it looks like some of them like look like like super like realism realistic oh yeah yeah it's the there's like I think there was there's this one for products like uh I guess showcasing
(48:09) products clothing and advertising and it's it's crazy they just it looks like the the avatars they look you know real except they're not they're completely generated MH and the products even like they're showcasing the products with their hands they're moving around or they're walking with it it looks you know like someone just shot it in the studio it's crazy so with yeah and the fact with some of them you can do like prompts to videos and like you can make it whatever kind of weird [ __ ] you want and it immediately makes an
(48:45) actual video crazy yeah yeah that's you know takes fake news to a whole another level bro it's gonna be you're gonna have to have like a dedicated AI uh detector for everything that you consume and most people are lazy so they won't so now you're going to going to be a lot of uh weird things going to happen it's still interesting though because like obviously like in business bases and like Tech spaces it's it's a lot different because you have people that are more in tune with things and willing and wanting to utilize tools
(49:19) like this but like in like every day like my day-to-day life and like just standard people that I talk to that maybe not business owners just you know know your regular Joe um I talked to so many people that still have no idea like even what chat oh yeah they don't know they have no clue like how how don't you know what chat GPT is people are just getting chat GPT is just becoming mainstream right there's there's a lot of people that yeah a lot of people didn't know like they've heard of it but they didn't know
(49:47) what it could do they're like oh it's just some like some AI thing but they don't know to the extent what it could do and then tools like like I mentioned cursor these tools only few people know about even though they're they're making a [ __ ] ton of money their value I think uh their valuation was I think valuation was like $2.
(50:13) 5 billion or and these guys came out like I think literally within um no they released a product like within a year and they're just built off of uh using llm so they didn't create their own llm they built their platform off of it coding so yeah it's it's it's wild and a lot of people don't know about it a lot of even even in my field in data science data analysis quite a few people don't know about it yeah even though they use chat GPT for coding a so yeah yeah but like like I'm saying like it's even surprising because like there's even quite a few people I've
(50:55) talked to like just like the last last couple months it's like I asked them if they're familiar with Chachi PT and they've never even heard of it I'm like what like do you live under a rock yeah I know it's wild I I come across those people like bro you I'm like they asked me a question I'm like oh yeah I'll just check on chat you what's that what what where have you been too busy on Facebook reals or something like what's going on but like that's the thing though it's like it's not those people are not uncommon
(51:27) I it could be a generation thing because most of the people I know they're like my age so could be a gen Z thing Jen maybe gen Z is know more about it yeah maybe um there was something else I was going to say I completely lost my train of thought it'll come back to me but yeah like what I mentioned before like there was a couple weeks ago there like when I mentioned I want to make like basically like a chat just for like AI tools is because like some of the things like you can do with them is absolutely crazy I think people yeah
(52:00) like people are obviously leveraging them to build ridiculous businesses but I think like most people are so sleeping on them massively yeah well the big thing is like as as cursor showed is building off of platforms and that use models so creating something that uses it like the that uh calorie tracker that I mentioned the AI calorie tracker the coding assistant and bet there's probably something for customer service that's someone building or has built product design for creating ads I'm sure there's a lot of a lot of
(52:41) different uh business app hell I don't know if you seen the video of this dude he made uh an autonomous like uh machine gun like robot gun yeah I se that you saw that one with the balloons right yeah then he talks of where the enemies yeah he talks he's like shoot the red one and shoots all the red on what the hell and this is just a dude he's not even in the military so imagine what the military had oh yeah I guarantee you like a lot of this software probably came out of the military to begin with like most things
(53:16) yeah I wouldn't be surprised yeah there's a lot of overlap with techken military and government yeah especially in the back doors 100% yeah yeah um yeah it's very very exciting very very strange times uh there was it's it's even like super surface level um I had a meeting with uh all my vas uh I think it was this past week and so we had nine of them there and we're just like talking about like ideas for sourcing how to improve some things whatever and like I just had like a thought like while we're talking and I'm
(53:54) like so like we have a database of products that we've sourced previously right and so we can utilize this database where we can like rep from products if we see like new sales and whatever and I'm like well why don't we like apply like a a formula or filter to look at stuff that hasn't been produced in our database for like a year plus and like I I was like I I haven't done it yet but I guarantee you like chat GPT can produce a formula to do that to like fillter that data for you like pretty easily and so like I like did it live
(54:24) with them and like I just like put in some data I'll see if I can find the prompt that I said it was like very straightforward and immediately like the first the first uh formula produced for me worked exactly as expected uh where was my prompt did it save for me okay so yeah I said I have a set of data in Google sheet some of the data is duplicated it had and I put in Brackets it has the same Amazon asent I want to formula to eliminate duplicate data and only show me products that have a date of more than one year ago the as is in
(55:02) column D the date is in column W so if the as has been found in the past year it should be removed entirely and yeah it worked perfectly it did exactly was I what I was expecting and like all my VA like you can see like uh they're like uh I don't know how to do that like they're like super confused by it like guys like this is like super straightforward basic [ __ ] I'm like come on like follow yeah it's just not a part of people's thought process yet yeah use it but like I I tell you man I use it for everything I
(55:32) use it for pretty I don't use Google any like I just use that and I don't use um what do you call that um stock overflow I don't use that anymore pretty much uh useless at this point so like yeah there's some there's going to be some issues with it like some some AIS are better than others for different tasks like uh Claud is better for coding I've noticed coding and writeups and then um called Google is pretty decent for searches and research for especially for papers they have something called notebook L that's a really good product and it's
(56:19) free for now that can produce entire podcast yeah like I yeah yeah yeah yeah that is insane yeah it do a full meta analysis and do you know full fullon research so it's yeah it's really it's really good like it can take a bunch of different papers and create an entire you know full analysis on that so it's yeah it's crazy what I noce what's craziest about that is like yeah you can put in like all this data set and it can it'll produce like more or less a podcast of two people talking but but it's not reading like just the analysis
(56:53) it's basically like talking like back and forth like people yeah it's like adding in like the ums uh like oh check this out it's like what the yeah it's it's wild it's wild that's wild it's crazy so crazy I mean like you know how like easy be like to produce like quotequote like value content for stuff like that like you can L just feed in information it's like oh we have this like Super Value packed podcast that's what you know that's what a lot of these Tik tokers uh the no face Tik tokers that's how they make their money uh they basically like
(57:25) for any given field they'll put in a lot of these a lot of information they'll take it from different sources they'll push it through an an AI and it'll come out with scripts and then they essentially they'll just run those scripts with AI voice and then add some pictures and rock videos and you know they'll publish bunch of videos a day some of them will pop off and they'll make decent money MH it's crazy looked into that a little bit and you can use like make.
(58:00) com and zapier and stuff like that and automate the entire process to like get it to write the script and generate the graphics and do the voice over and then yeah post and it's it's insane there was this other AI form that actually works better than those uh what it does is I forgot what it was called I had it written down somewhere I have like a list of all the AI tools U I don't have it on me but essentially what it does is it can connect all these different AI tools together to run a process so like what you just mentioned doing a process flow like okay so you
(58:30) use this tool to create the video uh you use this source to create the script and then from that script you create the video and then from that uh video you create certain images and then and then from that uh script you can also create a sound a unique sound because there's AI that can replicate sound based text or create sounds for text if you give it a prompt and or music too so yeah it it's wild and then you can have another one that you know hooks your um your Tik Tok account or your Instagram to post it
(59:02) crazy yeah I I think I know what you're talking about I think I saw like a little short or something about that and yeah it's like it's like a big white it's like it's like a whiteboard kind of thing and then you can drag and and it's very simple to you don't code you just drag and drop and then you choose the order which apps you want to run and what you want them to do yeah it's crazy you could start like a an army of like Tik Tok Pages or like Instagram theme pages and like I was thinking of doing something like that
(59:27) and then like drop ship off of an Instagram theme page or all it takes a few video videos to go viral and I'm sure you could drive traffic to some sort of Shopify store for 100% And I've seen ones too where you can basically like either yourself or somebody else but like I've seen where you can take a model of yourself you just talk into a mic for so long or into a camera and it creates an actual model for you and then it can place you in your voice video talking they they they do that they do that for uh what do
(59:56) you call it well they demo that for having um web conferences or like web meetings online meetings so like you could be you could be laying down in your bed and they'll have you your face talking as long as you're talking but it'll it'll basically show you as if you're in front of the computer talking I saw some guy uh doing like marketing and he was I I don't know exactly what he was doing but he was doing like follow-up phone calls and the AI was doing like the Outreach for him like the follow yeah yeah there's
(1:00:26) actually there's actually quite a few that that run these cold calls businesses and you can train data on like for for example A salesperson you just feeded a bunch of data and their their text and their voice data and you can essentially just run it to run all the calls that you have in your database in your leads database and it'll just do robo calls and it'll just it'll start off by saying hi this is you know an AI uh because I think I think it I think you have to disclose that it's an AI at least in America at least I understood
(1:00:57) this guy was not he was not exping anything but yeah apparently like if making a ton of money they started getting a lot of um a lot of sales from that so yeah it's crazy there there's so many things kind of overwhelming at this point to figure out what you want to do with it yeah it really is it's super interesting all all the traffic you could drive to pretty much whatever you want it's crazy um you mentioned gold chill that you have a list of all these tools if you're ever interested in sharing it I'd be super interested to to see it yeah I
(1:01:35) have it I have it saved so far I've been it's just a bunch of it's just a bunch of AI tools that are find I didn't test them all necessarily but seen them and they're pretty cool so yeah I'll I'll uh I'll share it in J chot when I find it Well I think like I I was going to make like a a separate thread for AI tools but I don't think anybody in here pays attention to friends cuz we tried that cuz they kind of disappear it's not it's not really visible cuz you have to right click to see it yeah so I think I'm
(1:02:02) probably just going to make like an AI chat itself because like again I think it's super important I think like a lot of people can leverage this kind of stuff for all different kinds of things I think there's a Discord integration with chat gbt no I'm not sure I think there was I I feel like I've seen it somewhere before another Discord server I was in I'm pretty pretty sure I've SE cuz I I remember people asking a question oh yeah and it would give you can get like a g yeah a GPT bot for sure yeah yeah yeah there was one um like the like I
(1:02:38) guess like the deao popular one which was like run by like a company I think it was called tur Turin AI uh we had them in the server like a long time ago but their bot was super unstable because like they're relatively early um so I just kicked it but I believe from what I gather I think they're back up and running and they're very stable now yeah so like looking in their server right now it looks like right now they have a bot for GPT 4 for Claude uh and I think those are the only AIS that they have at there's a lot of
(1:03:10) inform information probably get from your Discord here you can run a bot on it yeah I think that's something I want to try but I also like think that I don't know if that bot can search the server for information maybe it can but be able to like you could try limiting it to certain channels and or monitors or certain channels and see what it does from there and then add more it could be end up becoming pretty cost though yeah um because like doing stuff like that like I mean obviously we could automate tasks
(1:03:46) in the server but then we also basically create a database of additional information that's been shared in here too which I think would be super crazy because if somebody has like a question about something like that's been asked about Amazon the bot can respond to you immediately and like here's like the conversations that we've had before is all that like account Health stuff like being able to ask account health questions and about people's violations and have the bot answer it would be crazy for Amazon yeah and so like I've thought
(1:04:15) about that because like we have all these conversations in here on the public server and then also all the calls that we've had they're all transcript now so if it can like automatically just pull information from all of that into like like one little tiny database I think that'd be [ __ ] insane you could I think what you could do is uh well an easy way to do it well I guess a very uh quick way to do it would just be to uh you would just essentially get all that text data and make it into a Json file and just upload it
(1:04:50) llm and then run and ask question create an agent from that and then just a question yeah honestly like that probably would be relatively easy too because you can upload files it or you could even use cursor and create a application that does that these are certainly things that we're looking into and these are things that I would like to implement in here but then we're going to just completely remove all the human element in This Server I mean that's where we're going have you seen the actual robots like what do you
(1:05:36) mean like you know like the Tesla Bots and then yeah there's this uh what's that one called like X1 something I forgot what it was it's like $20,000 a pop for it I can't remember robot but there's I was listening to a a podcast of this investor guy essentially saying that well due to ndas he can't really talk about it but he is invested in a couple of robot company humanoid robots that essentially will be able to do a lot of the tasks like assistant robots that are you know you you probably seen Boston Dynamic right yep
(1:06:20) yeah so he's like these are better than those and especially with integrated with AI like saying these things are going to be on another level and he's saying it's going to come out in a few years so and I don't know if you watched the Tesla showcase where they had their taxis and then their robots even though the robots were kind of human operated a little bit but yeah it's it's only a matter of time yeah like that like that starts like obviously it's like super helpful like can like do so many tasks and free
(1:06:58) up so much time but like that stuff starts getting pretty scary it's like it's going to displace so many jobs and it's like yeah like obviously there's going to be other things that are created but it's like I think there's going to be a period of like a lot of disruption and and extreme uncertainty for people and that might create a lot of problems oh well new problems solution 100% so it's it's going to be just like how the internet came out actually made libraries Obsolete and calculators obsolete phone it's going to be yeah quite a few
(1:07:37) changes coming out but as usual with a lot of things people are pretty slow on uptake unless it's you know government doing it so yeah how are you discovering these tools called chilling like what what are you following podcasts and Twitter or how do you come across these Twitter Tik Tok yeah pretty much Twitter and Tik Tok I follow you people that are in the tech space and on Twitter and on Tik Tok Tik tok's easy because you just see the videos of the things in an application and on Twitter I read some of the
(1:08:15) threads and some of the popular uh tools that are coming out and then regarding it's I'm not like too into it as these people are but I take a yeah yeah I I need to really work on trying to stay ahead I feel like it's it's so easy to fall behind with this technology and I just want to try to stay a step ahead and then there's some YouTube creators too that that do it like one of the guys I follow is she does a lot of no code tutorials just like walks through building uh applications with comparing different tools
(1:08:53) and guys Riley Brown Riley Brown r i l e y Brown so he does it you can follow him on Twitter on then I guess you can just see other people that they follow and just follow them that's kind of how I got started looking at Ai and then like top threads top and then following some of the people they follow and yeah just from there you pretty much get in on the AI news and you see all the different tools and stuff that people are releasing so it's a good idea to know what's going on in the especially when with regards to how you
(1:09:36) can apply it yeah I definitely agree thank you problem yeah I think we'll be uh exploring a lot more stuff in the server for this stuff in the very near future we'll have some chats specifically about it because it's stuff that interest me too um if you're looking for specific spefically for cont content creation tools for AI there's a lot of stuff that pops up via Instagram reels I have a lot of those saved so when we start having those chats I'll start sharing the tools that I found too a lot of like image video creation and stuff you can find on
(1:10:09) Instagram pretty easy yeah same with Tik Tok I don't I don't personally like Instagram because there's a lot of junk on there um and the algorithm I don't like as much but Tik Tok surprisingly it's uh pretty their algorithm is pretty good so I mostly just see business AI stuff Fe I almost exclusively use Instagram to send offensive reals to a few of my friends it gives me a laugh yeah too much uh too many off basically uh too much off [ __ ] on on on Instagram it's like an off funnel essenti yeah you have you I mean it
(1:10:56) customizes the algorithm customizes to your preferences so what are you looking at I I don't even have it I don't even have it I don't even I was about to say I'm not getting any of that online I don't know what you're talking about I mean back when I did like years ago years ago I I I installed it I'm like okay you know what there's a lot of people on Instagram so it's like a it's like a because people are saying look it's a really good way to connect with people okay get cool I'll look at it like anytime I search anything it would
(1:11:23) just be like it's just a bunch of like you know AIC girls on them like what what is this [ __ ] bro I thought this was like an have to connect with people like okay I'm done with it so then I got on to Tik Tok and I was like oh this is way better talk there yeah I haven't uh I haven't really spent a lot of time with Tik Tok whatsoever but like I thought with Instagram like and it's not a censored well I mean uh Tik Tok uh Tik Tok I don't know about Instagram is not very censored anymore well not anymore I haven't
(1:11:59) looked at it Rec but it has been pretty heavily before in the past Mo yeah definitely but I found like I mean it is Zuckerberg the dude's known for but guess that's why they wanted to buy Tik Tok but yeah like non US own did you see him like come out with his like his whole statements about like sens oh yeah bro he's billionaires they're they're like reptiles you know they just they change the color of of their surroundings so right now the surroundings is be more aligned with free speech and the Republican narrative
(1:12:35) whereas before it was the Democrat narrative and you know the whole preventing quote unquote hate speech and all that stuff and censoring people and H 100% yeah so there's a lot of government involvement with that too and he admitted it too so and I think that same thing happened with Twitter when before it was bought there were a lot of doctors and politicians and other people on a certain side political leaning side that were censored compared to others and it still it isn't even now but yeah definitely it's it's a lot better
(1:13:14) than what it was and obviously like Elon Musk has different uh different uh leanings but yeah but I mean he has done I think more more of a net benefit than anything yeah it's definitely better than before I in terms of free yeah but like what's interesting about Tik Tok is it's outside of America right so it's not trolled by I mean they they do have I now it's changed a little bit but if you look at what they see in China they only see educational stuff in China they only them math related the people that are pushed by the algorithm
(1:13:53) are more related to with educational content and not really sort of like the degenerate you know clickbait stuff that we see here you know people doing good things for you know entertainment purposes so it's it was a different uh lens social media yeah which is wild I means like the country it it just kind of goes to show like what where China is going and like the value China is crazy Advanced yeah I have a my my cousin's husband he Canadian but he did a lot of business in China and he ended up uh living there
(1:14:38) for like 10 years and every time he comes back here he's like well this place is like a third world country he's like it is so crappy here the services the the technology the cleanliness the safety just like another world over there yeah so I've I've always heard stories I don't know if it's true and I don't know if you know but that like China essentially has like a social credit system now and it's pretty oh they do 100% it's pretty it's pretty [ __ ] up well I mean it depends like if you I don't know the extent to it but
(1:15:15) it's apparently for like Hooligans and and and people who I'm not sure how if like people don't pay Their fines or something like that I don't know about that but with regards to if they do something um they commit a crime or something like that then yeah I mean sure it's it's not it's not it's not good I don't agree with it personally but yeah they do have it because but I asked him about it and he said it didn't really affect him but I mean when you have things like that like obviously that can super like limit freedoms and Free Speech right oh
(1:15:53) yeah well they don't have fre right that was never a thing talk bad about talk bad about the government it's like all a sudden it's like I can't travel anywhere what happened I can't I can't rent the place yeah well I guess if there's nothing bad about it then you don't need to so it would depend but yeah that is definitely a limiting factor know even if uh other things can be be [ __ ] I I personally put personal freedoms and Liberties above almost everything else yeah I think that's a very very important thing to myself which I don't
(1:16:40) know why I live in Canada but I was going to say that doesn't really coincide with Canada or or the UK you you want to go down south a little yeah I got and in some states not even all states either you want to go to certain States for that yeah I gota go like Texas Texas is nice I like Texas especially Houston is really nice yeah Texas and Florida I guess yeah Florida all the Ecom business Bros they go to Miami yeah I gotta go get a pentos Miami dude you got to go to Bickle Miami that's where you'll see all
(1:17:16) the all the dudes with their Lambos and their courses you'll meet them all one day you'll meet them all in the same neighborhood you have you have um Florida then you have Miami they are two different places no I mean people people like that piss me off if uh if I seen them I'd probably go to jail I'd probably end up stabbing some people what's standard ground say so hopefully they come at you first you you're good to go uh my uh my inner native will come out [Laughter] right as we say when we're we're drinking whiskey your Fe is come
(1:18:01) up uh Canan room Canan room um the um question about Pharma packs um who are they Pharma pack was one of the biggest Amazon third party sellers in the world and it was I think it was like maybe maybe a year maybe two years ago they went bankrupt they were like they I think they were doing like over a billion dollars in Revenue a year and there were a third party seller on Amazon because I'm seeing their list I'm see seeing their listing I think um on some items I'm like I'm seen a million plus reviews I'm like what the as far as
(1:18:47) I was aware I thought all their listings were done now like unless like somebody revived their account cuz I like I thought they were done like a while ago well I'm sure I'm seeing like a million plus and then I'm looking P I'm like no they um they have like a big gap between them and pattern and I know pattern is the biggest to my knowledge yeah like pattern like everybody was talking about pattern they were like value like they had some insane valuation and I think I want to say from I recall I think they
(1:19:19) went public uh at some point and then yeah like it came out a couple years ago like they weren't making money because like they weren't on top of their finances like their processes were super expensive and they didn't actually they didn't actually know how to like keep track of their expenses and their production cost which is insane for a company that big pattern or pharmax what's that are you are you making reference to P pattern or pharmax Pharma packs as far as I'm aware like pattern I I think pattern is the biggest seller in the
(1:19:54) world now I I believe but I believe uh I don't think they're public I don't think they're as big as what Pharma packs was but I believe they are very large like they obviously are they're one of the biggest sellers in the world but I'm not sure what kind of volume they're doing now let's find out yeah one thing I'm learning about um this uh especially sourcing um eway flips it's all about speed um this morning um something pop up um in my email I was on it but I actually purchase it with the wrong credit card
(1:20:36) so I cancelled it and um and by the time I try to purchase it again H everything was gone that's part of it man so it look it looks like now pattern it says according to them their annual revenue is 1.4 billion and Pharma packs they had a a valuation of 1.1 billion so it looks like pattern has overtaken Pharm packs crazy crazy but uh pattern does things like they they control listings and like they have very good negotiations and contracts with their suppliers and like they have like a lot of exclusive contracts with suppliers as
(1:21:23) well so like you'll find they're not not all products but a good chunk of products that pattern sells you'll find that they're the only seller on the listing ever and a lot of them like they control their listings too where like they'll actively get other sellers kicked off yeah see you know they're making money yeah yeah but they have a very big operation I believe I believe I think Dan was mentioning I think their CFO was at uh AMZ United and he was talking with them I believe from what I recall that's good aan you've been quiet what's going
(1:22:17) on can you hear me I can hear you yeah yeah just just sourcing at the same time and how's it going it's good not bad are we finding a lot of products yes uh finding some products but I've been uh been bumping into the uh time kind of constraints because uh with work and everything kind of started out of nowhere uh getting a bit more busy so now I'm trying to kind of distribute a lot of the stuff and uh do things like all at once like do all the sourcing at once and do all the buying uh at once and kind of getting majority
(1:22:59) of it done uh at once instead of before I used to do it more on like a daily level yeah so that's what I'm currently doing right now and has our Revenue been growing so far this year so far yeah so far uh I think this this month took a little bit of a hits just CU of uh things that things got busy but it's uh so far so good uh on track it's growing for that coal beautiful so are you you're still prepping in house yes yes yep yep and you plan to keep it in the house yep as long as I can yeah so what got busy at work uh or it was like an orc change and
(1:23:53) all that kind of stuff so had to do a lot of uh the deployments which was all like kind of um after workor as well so staying past five and all that kind of stuff so had to get a lot of that kind of stuff done and then also some bit of going into office because of some of the org changes but now things are settling down yeah cool and so are we going to be on track to hit our goals this year so so far so far yes yes good to here get to he to push harder actually what's that I need to push even even even harder uh
(1:24:41) still feel like I have some more you know gas in tank well that's good man if you uh you you put your foot on the gas and you and you don't take your foot off until you hear glass breaking right yeah exactly Ron you had some pretty big aspirations to grow relatively quickly and how's that going for you so far uh good but uh kind of taking a slight step back but I'm working on it to be honest uh especially the fact that I'm not in Canada where I could um I'm more confident in buying stuff and say KN that uh I'm the one
(1:25:24) collecting it and everything cuz um with my Pro Center I like to ship once or twice a week depending on the volume but sometimes it's not um that that the case especially when you when um item is missing and end the fact that I'm working alone I have to try to stay on top of that yeah and the concept and if the person doesn't reply the same time or the same day because um obviously he's working uh with people uh more than one person so that's basically very much right but do you think uh with the limitations that you have right now
(1:26:17) you're going to be able to hit the goals that you set for yourself um yes um the only thing that's really cre me up is the hardgate hard Gates um especially today um with one of the leads I on the lead list I'm like oh [ __ ] like where it was so fire and then like um and I and I know I was um ungated in that brand and then when I when I go to check I was hard I was like [ __ ] yeah personally that [ __ ] happens yeah so it was really fire like um so but it's going it's really going yeah that's good and so you like you
(1:27:08) completely started like on a brand new fresh account right brand new um what what really messed up was um there are certain given the fact that it is um a US company there certain products I can sell in Canada oh like what um I don't want to give away the as because I give someone but there's some like OT OTC products you can sell in and I know I was uh I I think I was making I could with that one AC I know I could pay a mon rent easily with right for sure yeah with your us LLC are you hard gated and stuff like that the foreign sellers got hardgate
(1:28:05) within the states like things like Lego and stuff um yes um maybe because my account is new um so in Canada I am ungated in Lego in the US I'm um arated Ino Disney Matel Funko all the shoes apparel everything and but within Canada you I can actually apply for those things and so it's crazy interesting so I guess it's Canada I'm wondering like if because like you have like a US LLC uh If eventually it'll open up for you uh those Brands like I would I would expect because like I know a lot of sellers they got hard
(1:28:57) gated for Lego but it seemed like like like the Lego the Mattel Etc but it seemed like it was mostly foreign sellers like so the ones located outside of the US so if you do ever get open up for those like let me know like I don't want to know if you're selling them but but I'm just interested to see if it open reopens up for you okay well I I have I I actually purchase like stuff but to try with uh so for because I wanted to sell them I purchased them but I'm just I use it to ungate within Canada that is it right yeah because I
(1:29:35) talked to somebody else and I'm not going to tell like what what the stuff is I think he may have actually had a conversation with you um but he got hard gated with a brand in the US and it was a brand that he was selling a lot of and then he had he's I believe he was going to open up a us LLC and a separate account just to sell that brand because that's how much he was I I I I use Smart SC to actually track track everything I'm like [ __ ] I would do the same thing but yeah I mean he was do he was doing super well with it but then yeah I
(1:30:13) got completely hard gated which is I don't want to give anything away but like it's it was a product that's produced in Canada no I I know the product I know I know every single thing we have a disc about it because was a product I was actually sourcing and uh so when I brought it brought it up he he he he brought it to me because we already have conversation prior to so it was like oh you know that and I'm showing him like Hey but he's not telling me just his source which I totally respect but yeah I mean like yeah like
(1:30:52) those were obviously selling very good um profits per unit from what I recall like they weren't crazy but they were solid enough to make up for it yeah I didn't know he was that big you didn't know what he was he was that big yeah he's he's doing pretty well no J that's not doing pretty well that's doing great he's doing pretty well yeah yeah we we we got we got a we got a lot of guys in here that are doing doing pretty good you think I could ask you some questions about how like I guess your story behind starting all of this yeah
(1:31:38) man what do you want to know I guess just like I'm sort of in a situation where I joined this group like a few years ago and I left for a long time just to kind of get my [ __ ] together yep and then I'm sort of at like a crossroad where working a 9 to5 and like it's decent money but I really really really cannot handle a 9 to5 like I could not see myself doing this forever I think I would go crazy so I guess I'm curious about your story and like kind of if you went to university did a 9o5 and then started exploring this until it was
(1:32:15) enough to quit your 9o5 or how it went for you so most of like like my I guess quote unquote story is not super exciting and it just like just like kind of like um things fell in place and I just took a path but so it was 20 2018 I was I never went to University uh school is not for me I I like to learn but not not a school person whatsoever yeah I definitely get that um I had aspirations to go to university and I was actually um before I got I guess scouted for like the industry that I went into before Amazon was the
(1:32:56) insurance industry I I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life so I was registered to go to university I didn't want to do it uh it wasn't like my parents tell me to or anything cuz my family's full of [ __ ] degenerates and nobody in myone of my Rel yeah like nobody in my school went to like postsecondary anything yeah this is see this is exactly what I'm feeling this exactly how my family is like no one in my family went to postsecondary I went to postsecondary got a job but I'm like like I can't [ __ ] do this job [ __ ]
(1:33:26) anymore um so uh a few years prior when I was still in high school um so I graduated high school in 2011 so I'm I'm 30 how old am I right now 30 I think I turn 32 this year so a few years prior to me graduating my my parents had started a venture um they were not business people but my sister she was a a journeyman hair stylist and she always had this aspiration that she wanted to open up her own salon and so I don't know I think they just randomly seen that like a place was like uh franchising it was like a local
(1:34:09) franchise in Saskatoon so they decided to start looking into it and like my family had no business starting any kind of business because they had no money they had no business experience uh but they kind of got sucked into this dude who was he's kind of like scummy and scammy and he said like you know you can do the things with the bank loans which you can you can extract money and give that for my franchise fees and we could start it's no problem so they ended up taking a loan for I think it was like3 or $400,000 and wow can't afford that
(1:34:37) [ __ ] at all uh started Salon uh they started in Warman which is a city uh about 15 minutes north Saskatoon and again they had no business doing it because they had no money to back them but yeah I because I didn't know what I wanted to do and when I was in high school I was working in the warehouse of a Walmart uh I decided I was going to leave that job and help them like just get set up with things and then I was like well this is like kind of like a more cozy gig than going to Walmart so I was like I'll just stick
(1:35:09) around and I stuck around and helped them so I helped them like with their computer systems I learned how to do bookkeeping because they didn't know how to do that so I just like I did that on their behalf I [ __ ] hated it but I did it I just helped them like try like their their General management operations which I I didn't have any experience with but I was just trying to help them and then I found that I really liked business in general and that's how I found that I like business I I didn't really care about if it was a salon I
(1:35:35) just liked business period uh but they ran that salon for I think it was like two or three years barely making it every single month uh uh and then eventually that to like close our doors and it was basically like a a process of like okay we can't pay a bills this month like we're closing tonight night so like the employees that are there it's like sorry good dudes like we probably can't pay your payroll but we have this inventory and [ __ ] and the bank's going to take it so take what you want so and we basically closed up overnight because we
(1:36:05) couldn't pay our bills so it it's kind of [ __ ] up but they had to go through that consumer consum proposals and stuff and so it was a big learning experience and then from there um I randomly got a job because I just needed a job as a it was kind of like a management position in a tanning salon because I just found it because that's what my like my parents part of that was their job I'm not into tanning into Beauty I'm not I'm not I'm not a job a job so you just took it I'm not a metosexual dude I'm not a homosexual dude like it's
(1:36:40) very it's very condescending for like what I am and I kind of look like an [ __ ] and like people think like I like I'm a contractor so it's very weird jobs to do but I did it and I did it for a couple I think I was there for a couple years and then I got recruited from that job to start in the insurance business cuz like this girl that came in she just thought that how I dealt with her and how I was able to sell her like products she thought I'd be a good fit for what they're looking for and at that time I was registered to start to go to
(1:37:10) university and I had thoughts that I was going to go for a bachelor's degree and then eventually work into a masters of Business Administration um I just had that F out because it had something to do with business um I realized now that it probably would have been a very big waste of time and money because an MBA doesn't really help you with actual business helps you like be like CEOs and [ __ ] right yeah so I ended up getting recruited into that job um so I decided to not go to university and like I made the best of it I I
(1:37:46) didn't I didn't mind it I liked it uh but it was after a while like I got good at it and I got very complacent as like this is kind of boring and then that's when uh 2018 it was 2018 I was on a station from work and that's when I randomly came across uh videos online of this dude selling used books on Amazon and it was a a guy named crazy resells and then that that's how I started like uh I was like this looks something that I could do I think that interests me it looks like I can make some money I can do it in my spare
(1:38:19) time and then yeah I started going to thrift stores finding Used Books uh started scaling that um ended up like having like a service that I'd pick up people's used inventory locally for free posted on Facebook got a ton of free inventory had some contracts with a few thrift stores so scaled up pretty well and it was able to help my build my Capital pretty good because books basically cost nothing uh because I didn't start with a lot of money I had like a, bucks and I spent $300 of that to buy my first PC like I didn't didn't even own a PC
(1:38:54) before that I owned like a a really shitty laptop and it barely worked uh so I bought my first PC used off of Facebook or Kijiji and I'm like yeah I'll just I'll I'll see where I can take this and just kept putting the money back into it and um books sell super slow but they're super profitable so I was able to gain a lot of additional money with that and I had like when I was picking up like free inventory I got like thousands and thousands of with a free inventory over the course of the time that I did it and
(1:39:26) there was one time where I actually picked up some like a [ __ ] ton of used textbooks from my local University um and that ended up profing me like $5,000 like stuff like that was like a nice boost Capital it's insane yeah um a lot of work like books super big grind but I really actually enjoyed it because it was it felt satisfying yeah um so slowly from there started um exploring used media so like things like used video games consoles made really good money with that and they sold through a lot quicker and they still had
(1:40:00) really high margins uh I was when I was a kid I was a gamer so I was familiar with it so it I wasn't like a gamer at that time but I knew enough about consoles to get by be able to test them make sure they're real Etc and then just slowly started getting into ra OA uh I got into wholesale relatively early I opened up a wholesale contract when I was sitting outside of my lunch break of my job in my Jeep uh on the phone with a dude completely lying up my teeth and bullshitting and then that worked and then yeah just
(1:40:32) really slowly built up Amazon from there and then like Amazon became my full-time gig so uh I was still working when Co first popped off and right basically like Co popped off everything was shutting down I was like heavy into like consumables and groceries and so like immediately like my business started like just skyrocketing like started selling like so much more than I was used to and at that time I was like very heavy into um Costco I really like Costco because I could almost treat like wholesale uh without having to have a wholesale
(1:41:04) contract but I could buy a [ __ ] ton of stuff and assume that was all like FBA right yes 100% I still haven't to this day fbm a single product Oh [ __ ] okay um and so yeah like I ended up uh recruiting my brother and my nephew to help me like buy stuff and pack get up and uh go to Costco do Costco runs with me we rented UL trucks bought pallets of [ __ ] and just consistently started scaling from there and like once Co popped off I was like I immediately I was like I need to quit my job like uh I need to see how far I can take this I'm
(1:41:39) like um I'm spending way too much time like I would I'd go to work I'd come home I'd basically eat to feed my dogs and then I'd work until like 3:00 4 in the morning and then I had to wake up and I had to wake up at like 800 to be at work by like 9: so I don't know how you did that that is [ __ ] crazy to me yeah and like it was it started getting to me after a while because like I did that almost every single day yeah and then on weekends often times I would like crash and like it caught up to me like there was many times where I'd
(1:42:08) sleep like 24 hours straight and it just get to me oh my God but like just grinding and growing and started scaling whole sale from there and yeah like I've just we've just kind of been doing that Journey every since and like so um I originally quit my job um I quit it too early like I was naive I wasn't making as much as what I thought uh but I was like [ __ ] it I'm G to make it work anyway and then my job offered me like they said well instead of quitting immediately won't you come back and work parttime I was like well
(1:42:46) that's cool so then I worked I think like two shifts like eight hours a week so I was still like guaranteed to like pay my bills I did that for a couple months and I was like [ __ ] it like I can't do this anymore I got to quit fully and then yeah we've been grinding ever since damn that's uh it's definitely a success story it's it's kind of nice to relate that you have like a family that's kind of shitty definitely feel that way about my own family tons of [ __ ] degenerates in my family like like even like my
(1:43:15) immediate family like uh you look at I'm the youngest of six kids and you look at like all my siblings like none of them are like quot quote successful most of them are broke [ __ ] alcoholics drug addicts so yeah it's crazy it's like insane how much I can relate to that like my extended family is like kind of bad but then my immediate family is just like very broke Brothers like 30 early 30s now and does the same [ __ ] like drugs no job doesn't do anything like it's just shitty to see like I feel like I have a decent amount of motivation to
(1:43:50) do something with my life but then it just sucks and it feels like drags me down to feel like my immediate family is just like you know they just don't give a [ __ ] about anything so like even if I I look at like my parents for example like my dad he always attempted to uh provide for our family yeah um but like he never had like a a good job like he worked at um like Maple Leaf foods like his entire life like I think he worked there for 30 35 years um so never like had a good wage like I think when he retired he was making like just over
(1:44:25) like 20 bucks an hour Fu wild and uh my mom she never like really like held down like a job she was more so like a like a homemaker um but like ever since I kind of got that spark of business like from what they wanted to do like they always had like ideas and aspirations they're never good with money uh my dad has had some gambling problems in the past um but from like I got that spark of business from them attempting to to do what they did ever since then um my dad he started selling on Amazon because like he was just
(1:44:59) interested what I was doing so like when I was selling books he's like oh like what are you doing and like he he wanted to he wanted me to teach him at the time he was like 64 years old and he hardly knows how to use a [ __ ] computer I was about to say that's pretty impressive that your dad figured it out with you CU my parents are way too like illiterate technology to figure that out so I I've said this before and if somebody gets offended I apologize but I always say like my dad's kind of half [ __ ] okay yeah so um because like he
(1:45:30) doesn't he he hardly knows how to use technology um but and I don't know where it came from like I think it just came from like me doing it and him seeing like me grow I think that's that's where like his motivation came from to just like keep doing it being consistent right and so he even though like he hardly knows how to like operate an Amazon business and I've had to spend Godless amounts of hours trying to help him do things he has grown like an actually like pretty good siiz Amazon business like uh I think he has his sales has dipped
(1:46:06) recently because he hasn't been spending as much time doing it because he took a bit of a break but like as his as Peak he was doing like $50,000 in Revenue a month that's insane you know how much he was making a profit his profits were relatively low uh actually let me find his uh main sheet here I have access ACC to his main tracker that I made for him uh tracker and like just like probably like six months ago he started using like Celler board like and doesn't really do a whole lot of bookkeeping so he hardly
(1:46:38) knew what his profits were yeah uh but I want to say like his net margins um I believe from what I recall were like about 12% which with OA kind of low yeah uh but he also like hardly knows how to manage his inventory damn make it sound like it's possible for anyone it can be um like with him I don't think he could do it without like a lot of handholding and support but I mean he was able to make work with just like massive consistency so if I look at his stats for 2024 in 2024 he purchased uh 20856 units uh his cost of goods was $285,600
(1:47:22) barely started with any [ __ ] money yeah yeah uh just like leveraging credit cards like not going debt consistently paying it off but just recycling it uh yeah this doesn't show his profit but his potential profit when he added it to his tracker off that inventory purchase potential profit was $134,000 wow and then his total unit shipped so he purchased 20856 he shipped uh 19491 units in 2024 holy [ __ ] yeah and his total potential Revenue at the time he added it to his tracker was just over $671,000 that's crazy
(1:47:58) [ __ ] uh but so keep in mind though like so like he started just like he just wanted to start just because he saw what I was doing he started with books he got into video games even though he doesn't know [ __ ] all about video games and then got into Arbitrage uh but he's also been doing this basically like six months like after I started so like he probably started like mid 2019 so he's been he's been doing this for like five six years so like most people like with like most people in that time period if you
(1:48:30) were consistent you would have scaled quite a bit larger than what he would have but but considering like his limitations he's doing very well yeah that sounds pretty good definitely based on like uh maybe he's not like completely engaged when he's doing it and just kind of working like a [ __ ] job forever yeah but I don't know if you have the motivation it seems like it's possible and you just got to put the time in and be able to learn like a lot of it is just massive consistency like no matter what kind of business you want
(1:48:58) to do it's like you can brute force your way through almost any kind of business that you want to do you just have to be extremely consistent and like not like expect that you're going to start a business and then like in 12 months time you're going to be balling out it's like I'm going to start business I'm going to be extremely consistent I don't know how long it's going to take I'm going to be patient but I know like probably within like two three years it's going to absolutely it can change my [ __ ] life
(1:49:23) yeah I feel like this is this is just kind of like you know I'm reaching a point in my life where I I I went to University I I used to be in school I didn't really know what to do after high school I was pretty like lost all my friends were going to University and then I went to school to be a paramedic and then I changed my mind because you see a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ] and I heard a lot of bad stories and just like people retiring when they're 30 so I just completely opted out after I did my education for that uh
(1:49:50) went to school for architecture did a diploma so just 2 years and then I ended up getting like a pretty good job right out of school and like I'm still working there I'm making decent money it's hybrid and I don't know it's like a little bit too demanding and they kind of expect a lot from everyone and the company is like extremely money hungry and not very generous um but so yeah I don't know I'm just I'm just sort of at a point where I'm just like I don't know what what direction to go in like I I know I cannot work a 9 to5 forever and I feel
(1:50:26) like like ah I know like reselling and selling on Amazon and everything it's doable and it's it can turn into a full-time job with consistency but I just feel almost like paralyzed of like what to do like I I don't even like know I don't even I don't know who to ask I don't know like where to look I feel like I watch so many YouTube videos podcasts read some books or even audio books and just like like trying to gain as much knowledge as I can on like business and like kind of escaping the 9 to-5 grind but it it just
(1:51:01) seems like so overwhelming at some point where I'm like what what do I do yeah and like depending on what you're watching who you're watching like probably by default a lot of that stuff that you're probably consuming is also a lot of [ __ ] yeah I try to stay away from that like get rich quick kind of vibe like obviously I know that's all [ __ ] and it's like you're not going to get rich in 6 months like is a large grind and it is like a very slow process but I do have one friend who went to school and he got a Bachelor's in
(1:51:30) marketing and he I think he worked at 9 to5 for like six months hated it quit his job and then within a year he was um doing his own like marketing agency and now he's been doing that for think a year and a half or two years and he's making like close to six figures and he pretty much Works remotely every single day travels wherever he wants and it seems pretty sweet how close of a friend is he to you uh like pretty close like like really good friend in high school I still talk to him like pretty occasionally have you had deep
(1:52:05) conversations about like what it took for him to start and start that business and get to where he is today not like probably probably not in like as much depth as I'd like to but I also feel I almost feel a little bit bad about asking him about that stuff because you know he's like grinding pretty hard he's like I think he's in India right now like on another vacation I think seeing his lifestyle and the stuff he does which he was raised like in a pretty wealthy family to be honest but regardless of that it's
(1:52:37) I almost feel bad asking him about that stuff because he just seems like so busy like he's constantly grinding but you're probably right I probably could get quite a bit of Knowledge from asking him and having like a deeper conversation and kind of picking his brain so like it just depends on like how good of a friendy is because like yeah so I I really like talking about business and this is why I do [ __ ] I I I've talked to like a lot of people that they'll like talk to me about like just some business idea that they have I'm
(1:53:07) like I can be I can be I my schedule can be busy as [ __ ] but I'm like no like type of conversation I want to talk about like this like the sign business you want to build because like I just want to like talk about the ins and outs and like processes of how you're going to get there because I just enjoy I enjoy business and so if he has like if he's somebody like that and like if he's relatively close to you uh he might you can't say for sure but he might also be willing to do that as well he might kind of like enjoy that whole process of
(1:53:36) talking about it yeah yeah um like I know like obviously like we are in a paid Community I'm not I'm not stupid to that matter but i' I've talked to many people before we even started this thing about Amazon and and business in general just because I enjoy doing it um the thing with me is like and I imagine like most of business people are the same as like at a certain point um I've had a lot of people talk to me and ask me questions and like I've had like really in-depth conversations spent a lot of time talking to a lot of people
(1:54:09) and then they just don't end up doing anything just completely just disregarding [ __ ] and just not even continuing with what they like had aspirations to do I'll fall I'll fall with somebody they're like uh you know I'm super motivated I want to start like an Amazon business this is my plan Etc and we have like a like an hour or two conversation one-onone and then it's like I follow with them like three or six months later it's like well how how is everything going oh I haven't even started yet I'm still doing research
(1:54:31) it's like what the [ __ ] are you doing like that that that [ __ ] pisses me off it's a waste of you have to be doing at least something like any direction is better than no Direction yeah but like with that like because I expect nothing from somebody want to have conversations like that I just want to talk to you and like help you get going and then you just don't do anything like that's a [ __ ] huge waste of my time I hate that [ __ ] I definitely get that I just feel like I'm I'm like hitting a Breaking Point like feel like I've been
(1:54:56) trying to do this flipping stuff for like quite a few years like I think I started with oh God I don't know what Xbox or Playstation was coming out I remember I was buying all the Xboxes and PlayStations I could get and I had like Stacks in my living room and my parents would call me stupid like pretty much every day and they' like you're you're losing all your money you're being stupid what are you doing and it got to the point where I was like going on Marketplace buying Xboxes and PlayStations and then selling them on
(1:55:24) eBay for like $1,200 and just like selling so many and having so many of my living room and I think that's where it kind of started and I was like you can literally make so much money online and then just slowly getting more into like finding flipping groups and figuring stuff out myself but I don't know I feel like I've never I've never reached a point where it feels like more sustainable than a full-time job and I think I'm just at a breaking point where I'm like you know like I feel like I can't do a I can't do a full-time job
(1:55:54) forever it'll drive me crazy so with like reselling I I look at it like a couple different ways so like there's obviously different Avenues uh with reselling like the hype stuff and the stuff that can be quick flips and like we look at like right now like for example like the ones that I would look at that are like super hyped and that can make a [ __ ] ton of money in short your Pokemon cards yeah so I think like those things are are nice but I don't think you can build a sustainable Foundation off of like I think that's exactly what I look at
(1:56:24) too is like all the hype things seem to be like very easy like I got super invested in Pokemon bought a bunch sold a bunch all these hype things super easy but I I'll let you continue I have an idea of where it's going well yeah like like I think and I think like those like are good and you can certainly uh cash in on the opportunities when they present themselves um and there's always like more things that can be flipped but it's hard to build a sustainable business off of something like that uh it can sometimes like it can make you
(1:56:51) like a [ __ ] ton of money in a short period of time that may be able to sustain you for a while but it's like all a sudden it's like okay when they're fully out of stock and there's no releases happening it's like well what am I going to do right yeah it's not as sustainable as some things that are constantly going I don't know constantly selling right for sure so that's why like I think it's very important to build some type of foundation some type of sustainable business if you're wanting to actually replace your income
(1:57:15) with it right and also like so like you say right now like you can't see yourself in like a regular night to five um I would also like say if you want to explore a path of like going into your own business I still like even though as hard and as as many restrictions that have are introduced and whatever I still think that Amazon even today is probably one of the lowest barri of entries easiest way to build a sustainable income outside of a regular job um so I'm not saying like and most people probably like when they start
(1:57:50) with Amazon they're probably not going to sell on Amazon for the entire life and that's okay you don't have to but I think starting something where it's like you're able to do something you're able to do it outside of a regular income and you're able to build like an actual business a sustainable business it might turn into something that you do forever it might not but I think the skills and the things that you learn doing it can also be extremely valuable and you it might also help you transition into something else right so I've seen so
(1:58:20) many people that start with Amazon that end up starting other businesses uh I've like I've talked to many people that start all different kinds of software uh that start selling supplies as a full-time living that start their own private label brand that exit our companies that start other businesses just from people that they've talk to or whatever it may be but just like starting like those kind of avenues can really help open your eyes or even help you have conversations with the people that help you find those other other
(1:58:49) avenues that may end up being more permanent for yourself yeah I get what you're saying I think um I don't know I I guess it's just the worry of like I feel I already commit a decent amount of time to flipping whether it's on eBay locally um Amazon is definitely like the where I sell the least like I feel I've wanted to like get more into it just it it's interesting you say has like a low barrier of Entry which I can see why you would say that but it ALS feels like you know selling locally and selling on eBay
(1:59:24) seem to be much easier at least in my experience 100% um I think it's just taking like I don't want to say a leap like I I'm pretty afraid to quit my full-time job to uh explore another Avenue and like you know it's obviously doable working full-time and exploring this stuff outside of a full-time job in your free time but I think it's just trying to find that like balance and then also kind of looking forward into the future of how hard is it to scale into a full-time job like how much how many hours do you have
(1:59:59) to put into it how how far into the future does it take to reach that point so the beautiful thing is is you can try things and get to a point that it can sustain you before you have to have a worry about quitting your job if you want to yeah uh but you have to be willing to probably make depending on your life depending on your expenses depending on if you have dependence depending on your social life uh spouses whatever it may be you may have to make some sub substantial short-term sacrifices if you want to
(2:00:36) make it into something real so what I mean by that is like you may have to stop seeing your friends you know every single week or going out to drink every single week or spending yeah it's cutting down on your costs as much as you can to kind of deal with um the lack of income you might have for some period of time that can be but if you're if like you're also working I mean you may not necessarily have to change your lifestyle a whole lot but you if you change it more drastically and like try to pump more money into
(2:01:09) your business it's going to scale more quickly obviously so like how quickly you can scale something is very dependent on how much time you're willing to put into it and how much Capital you have behind you so like for myself I wasn't able to scale uh my Amazon business super quickly compared to some of the guys that you see today because I didn't have a lot of capital to start off with whereas like some guys that you see in this like in our server that share like what they've been doing and how quickly they've been able to do
(2:01:34) it a lot of that comes with because they had the capital behind them or they able to secure large loans things like that whereas I I didn't do that I [ __ ] bootstrapped it from from the GetGo yeah I definitely see those screenshots too where people have like 100k revenue on Amazon and I'm like [ __ ] I do feel like the biggest for me is being ungated it feels like every single time I either see something in this server or I find something myself or I talk to someone and they let me know it seems like I'm always gated in so many categories it
(2:02:07) gets to a point where it's frustrating so you will be and when you first start with Amazon or like when you're in early stages it's it is more frustrating and it does technically get easier as time goes on uh Amazon has always in my opinion designed their system to be like that because they want to keep out the people that are not serious right yeah that makes sense um so if you realize that and you're willing to just brute force your way past it anyway even because even if you are presented with obstacles that's what's going to determine if
(2:02:37) you're going to be successful and sustainable long term so like yeah I guess that makes sense yeah so like when you say like it's frustrating because like you'll you'll find something and you're immediately gated it's like okay cool if like say like how how many hours do you work per week at your 9 to5 job uh like 40 to 45 Okay and like do you mind me asking like are you currently living independently are you with your parents no so I still live at home okay cool so what kind of um what kind of mon the expenses do you
(2:03:08) have um probably just like a small amount of rent um car insurance gas and you know just like food and stuff like that like nothing too crazy uh do you have do you have like any like substantial debts credit cards loans or anything that you have to pay off uh I have some student loans but it's not uh it's interest free right now and I you know I have enough to pay it off in full I think I'm just like kind of waiting until I have to pay interest on it to get rid of it cool but other than that I'm like pretty much good like my
(2:03:43) expenses aren't too high mostly just like saving money and trying to invest money into flipping okay so like with the income that you're in right now like do you are you able to save more than 50% of it yeah okay cool beautiful um with the amount of time that you spend on other things outside of work so like things like uh your physical fitness cooking for yourself hang out with friends if if you have a like a a significant other whatever how much time do you spend on those per week um [ __ ] that's a good question I
(2:04:21) don't think I've ever really like figured it out but yeah you know it's like I go out most weekends probably Friday and Saturday um what are you doing try not what are you doing when you go up either like going like skiing or you know going for like a dinner to like a show or something it's like you know I'm always like spending money to do something on the weekends um I don't know how many hours to be honest but I think you get the idea that I spend money uh I don't want to say like freely but spend more money than I could be spending right and
(2:04:57) like the reason why I asked this is like I mean you could be completely dishonest but I appreciate you being honest um but just having this I mean you're proba it's probably turning your head like oh like maybe some of these things could potentially change and maybe this maybe this can help me reach my my goals a little bit not like so for example like say if you go skiing or drinking hanging out with friends you know five six times a month like a couple days on like every single weekend instead of doing that maybe we
(2:05:30) scale back to like once or twice per month so we don't have to yeah committing that extra time to like you know figuring out why I'm ungated or figuring a work around or like you know committing more time to kind of reaching goals and actually dealing with what matters yeah and like just spending like actual real focused committed time to trying to work and so with where you're at right now like say if you want to try Amazon or or whatever other business you want to get into like if you want to scale eBay or if you want to scale
(2:06:00) ticket selling or whatever it is take that time that you would instead spend on those types of things cut it down a bit so you don't have to completely eliminate it if you want to be Psychopathic like I had been and do it quicker eliminate it completely eat ramen noodles it it'll get you there quicker but it just depends if you if your mental health can handle that yeah um but then like sit down and like okay cool now I have I have what 16 hours uh every single weekday if I want to sleep a healthy amount or sort on the weekend
(2:06:33) so I have 32 hours over the weekend so I was like cool I'm going to take a 10-hour block I'm just going to source and source and source and Source I'm going to fail a [ __ ] ton I'm it's going to take me hours and hours and hours to find one by Apple product but I'm going to do that until I find something and then something is going to click and I'm going to be like okay cool I found this now I start recognizing patterns I was like I can find more products based off of that I find more sellers I can find products that they're selling and I find
(2:06:58) products that I can actually I can actually sell they may not be super big gems but I can sell them and they'll probably sell consistently and and they'll probably make me some money and then I'm starting to learn the process of being able to Source properly and then I'm going to implement that over and over again and going spend a little bit more time every single week maybe sometimes on weekdays and doing that consistently and if you're doing that once you do that for you know 100 hours which sounds like a lot but in real
(2:07:27) reality that doesn't take that long to hit that yeah it's really not that much you're going to start finding like oh I'm finding more and more products and now maybe I can start doing this more consistently and then when you actually start selling things uh and increasing your metrics then a lot of the things that you are gated in right now like say like grocery categories or some like the the standard uh toys and uh Health and Beauty and baby all you're become Auto unated with those categories yeah I I completely get what
(2:07:59) you're saying I guess it just comes down to like not being pushed away from it if I am likeing being able to like BR Force to it and actually um committing the time to it that I normally commit to other things that are more Leisure right and it's like so you kind of have to tell yourself that it's like okay depending on what your motivations are and depending on what you actually want because like some people I don't know if this is you but some people say it's like oh they want something that somebody else has or they want they
(2:08:33) don't want to work a 9 to-5 but they are also too comfortable and complacent to do anything honestly you're right like the example I brought up with my friend he like it doesn't really go out very much he doesn't really do much he just has a girlfriend and he he does doesn't really like you know he's not he doesn't really go out drinking he doesn't go out doing like extravagant things well he is now but I guess a couple years ago I didn't really ever see him doing any of that because I'm sure he just kind of
(2:09:03) had his head down and was grinding to create a business for himself right so that's like where we might have to make some short-term sacrifices right so like if like and again you don't have to do it this extreme but like say if you commit yourself to to doing this which is something that I did quite a few years ago I basically committed to myself to eat quote unquote eat [ __ ] for 10 years and so that's like basically almost cut out anything that's unnecessary so I I took it to a point where it was unhealthy and I've talked
(2:09:33) about this as well like where I would when I started scaling a business and I started factoring in like how much I'm able to produce in Revenue per hour uh that got super unhealthy because i' like if you know if I would consider like talking to my like going hang out with friends or family it's like okay I'm going to lose this much money if I do this I'm able to produce as much per hour that got super that got super unhealthy yeah I get what you're saying with that yeah but it also like getting getting to that helped me helped me grow and I
(2:10:05) still have a relative mindset of still for the lack of better words eating [ __ ] so like where I still make some extreme sacrifices because I know what I want to accomplish personally um you don't have to do that like as extreme you don't have to do it for as long but depending on what you accomplish you're probably going to have to sacrifice something in order to get there and if you're not willing to do that it's probably not going to happen yeah that makes sense I definitely agree with what you're saying
(2:10:34) um what what is your opinion on BR moments comment in the chat I haven't got to reading it let's see uh so busy making gift for my dad's birthday don't kick me out this call because I haven't finished the code yet that's fine I get it quit [ __ ] around you said you're going to have it done in 24 hours bro uh I don't sell on amazon.
(2:10:56) com I sell exclusively onca after you sell a little bit of prods on Amazon you immediately get ungated in most categories so what I did for my first month of selling and sell prods I barely have any Roi just to get ungated and then increase my Roi from there probably not a good tip but that's what I did that's certainly a possibility even stuff that's like close to break even just to get through that and kind of get into the process and get into the the groove of consistently like buying products and selling them and prepping them and sending them to Amazon
(2:11:21) I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing as long as like you're buying products that are stable um because like if you have prodcts that have like a lower profit and Roi potential there's obviously potential that you're might be losing money so I don't I don't think that's bad if you're finding products that are relatively stable and like that say maybe only profit you a dollar $2 $3 right because it start to get you in the groove of how to do things yeah yeah that makes sense I guess I'm just more uh I did something similar but
(2:11:55) luckily found products that were pretty good sh took forever to find though never had nkate actually only for Lego yeah I guess it's just a worry of losing money it's like obviously nobody wants to be losing money when they're selling anything but if it gets you in a direction where you're getting ungated on more profitable things and it's sort of like lose some money now gain some money later yeah but oh go ahead no was on the topic of losing money cuz I'll break evil just to get the foot in um with some wholesalers and
(2:12:30) Distributors trust me but also so you're in a world where this world that we're in right here is a world of business owners entrepreneurs uh people don't become business owners and entrepreneurs and successful without taking some form of risk right doesn't happen like you might find one person that like inherited [ __ ] but it doesn't happen you have to be able to take some form of risk if you want to have some form of reward so there is 100% of risk that you you might lose some money but the nice thing with something like say like an Amazon
(2:13:07) business or reselling in general is the risks can be relatively limited because especially with Amazon because we have so much so many tools and data that we can look at and we can make very good predictions on how much it's going to sell or how things are going to fluctuate of course things can always change from that and uh restrictions can apply markets can drop out whatever but even if all those things happen you still have the physical product the physical asset and you can almost always recuperate a good chunk of your expenses
(2:13:40) within reason like some things are harder to sell than others but it's not like if you go out and spend $5500 and you completely make a mistake that you're not going to be able to recoup some of those costs yeah but when you're pricing things on Amazon and you see this thing with like four or five Sellers and they all have the same price of one product but it's still profitable if you drop the price even more how often do you do that so I'd recommend for most people that are just like really getting their foot wet
(2:14:10) just starting I wouldn't have that mentality at all so that's more advanced and that's something that we do look at like a lot um but when you're getting started I wouldn't go into any products with that mentality whatsoever i' go with the only mentality of basically matching the buy box assuming that it sells and that we can be profitable and share a portion of buy box because if you come into a listing that I'm on with that mentality and you decide that you're going to drop the listing I can tell you I'm probably going to punish
(2:14:39) you and you're I'm going to drop the price and you're probably either going to become unprofitable or never make a sale and I'm going to do that until you leave the listing and never make a sale ever okay so I see a listing that I have like at Amazon right now um there's like four or five people with a lower price that I have and it's like you know I don't want to undercut I understand undercutting and how shitty it is and how everyone seems to be against it but it it's almost like unpatient or impatient and I'm like I want to but I I
(2:15:13) guess if you know if you if you have done it in the past and had to punish people and sort of had to fight back then it's probably fair just to leave to the price and not touch it right and like so obviously undercutting Penny cutting whatever it's it's a thing that exists on Amazon it always will and you will probably always have listings that you hop on that people consistently undercut the price um and those things can be super frustrating uh but like things like that you need to learn to things that you cannot physically
(2:15:43) control yourself you need to let go because it's it's a waste of time and energy to worry about those things you just figure out how to deal with it right right uh but the whole thing about being impatient I'm going to tell you uh you got to get rid of that [ __ ] it's easier said than done but you're not going to it's very unlikely you're going to see any type of success if you are not willing to have some patience yeah that's fair right that's a very big thing you have to be willing to be patient like I would say if you want to do any type of
(2:16:17) business mentally try to commit yourself to like okay I'm GNA do this I'm gonna be ridiculously consistent for like say five years and then I'm going to see what happens it might it might be a waste of my five years but chances are it's not going to be but regardless I'm going to do it for five years I'm going to do it every single day if you make that the commitment to yourself mentally and you actually do it it'll probably make things a whole lot easier for yourself yeah it's pretty likely that you'll see see success if
(2:16:47) you're committing that much time and you have that much determination to figure it out yeah and like I said makesense if as long as you are consistent like that's that's the whole breaking Factor that's the whole thing that's going to separate from if you're not successful with any form of business versus if you are and like we come back with example my dad like again like I mentioned he's half [ __ ] but because he's been extremely consistent he's been able to have a relative success with Amazon yeah yeah that makes sense yeah I know what
(2:17:18) you're saying and so like I'm going to tell you if he can do it and now he's like I think he's 60 6 I think he just turned 67 68 he retired a couple years ago if he can do it and have relative success and you can't there's something wrong with you because you can't well I can agree you can't do it it's insane to hear that your dad is doing that my dad is like in his early' 70s like 7172 and I could never ever in my entire life imagine him selling anything on Amazon think he he like struggles to get into his email I
(2:17:57) never thought my dad could do something like that either but I mean he did so it's crazy what some form of little motivation can do for people right yeah BR moment's right Jordan's dad is motivating so I mean it'd be interesting to have him on a on a call one day like it would be that'd be insane the dude like if you tell him what if I I've asked him before like what kind of business model do you do on on Amazon he's like uh online Arbitrage doesn't know how to say it like what what did Jordan tell me that I
(2:18:28) do doesn't even know how to say it but no like I mean that just goes to show you like just extreme consistency can go extremely far yeah no I know what you're saying so now it's just a matter of if you're willing to do it yeah it's it's definitely hard it it feels like my brain is like half mush by the time I get home from work but it's not kind of like you have to figure it out it's not that hard but you're telling yourself it's hard yeah you're probably right just kind of like creating a barrier to like allow myself to do less
(2:19:09) 100% um do you know who David do you know who David Goggins is of course who's GNA carry the [ __ ] po but you know David goggin actually [ __ ] hates doing that the only reason he continues to like run and be motivational is because all these people look up to him like he's been on podcasts and he has just said he is [ __ ] done with this [ __ ] he hates it but people look up to him and people get hyped so that's also part of like what got him into like the position that he's in because he used to be a big fat lazy [ __ ] yeah and then
(2:19:43) like he just extreme motivation and sacrifice right yeah and like he like like he's right like some like he's EXT he's very extreme and most people like you're not going to be like that but like a lot a lot of people give up on things when they're only like 50 60% of the way actually done like you can still do more you're just telling yourself that you can't and for honestly for lack of better words of what he would say you're being a [ __ ] yeah like oh you're saying you're right like it doesn't matter how tired I am it doesn't matter
(2:20:16) how like mush my brain is doesn't matter how like hard it is to think it's like I could still do more yeah and like a big thing too is like a lot of people think that in order to do something accomplish something build a business whatever they need like they need that motivation and they need like that that little tick that like gets them going right and that's complete [ __ ] like you probably I'd say probably like 80 90% of my days I don't feel 100% I feel like [ __ ] uh have a headache from caffeine withdrawals whatever it may be
(2:20:53) but because I sit down and still actually get to work and do it anyway even though that I'm not super motivated that's what makes a difference yeah yeah that's true got to go from half mush to full send feel so hard there so there's so many days at work where it's the last like hour or two I get told to do something and I'm like like just doing it wrong it's just my brain just feels [ __ ] [ __ ] like nothing makes sense I'm just like broken try to fix that I know I know it's easier easier set than done but try to fix it like so as in
(2:21:32) like maybe work can be very unmotivating but I think that's a good place to start because you're already there you're already doing it it's like it's like okay you start feeling like this you start feeling like super exhausted done tapped out whatever it's like okay cool I'm going to do it anyway I'm going to do it I'm going to try to do it to every ability that I can and even better because I want to prove to myself that I can it doesn't [ __ ] matter that it's for work for a grey company whatever I'm just going to do it because
(2:22:03) I want to show myself that I can do it yeah I get that I I can try I'll genuinely try that but don't try it feels like it gets to a point where I'm like you know I just worked all day and I'm doing more [ __ ] last couple hours at work and it it's like things literally don't make sense like I don't even know how to describe it it just feels like my brain is so exhausted that things don't add up and like I'm like forgetting things like it it doesn't even make sense to me it just feels like my brain is just so exhausted that I you know I
(2:22:37) can't lock in anymore there's no there's no lockin left do you consume caffeine not very much but this uh this talk about caffeine on an empty stomach to start seeing sounds this kind of intrigues me I like I don't want to help anybody promote bad habits but I think caffeine I don't think caffeine is a bad habit uh that's besides nicotine that's the only drug that I do uh but I think caffeine is like a major hack because like you can drink very strong caffeine coffee or even caffeine pills if you don't like coffee and in 10 to 20 minutes it's like
(2:23:18) your brain can be literally rewat ired yeah just wired off the caffeine I see what you're saying and it can help a ton I wouldn't say you should do it to become dependent on it like I have been but I think it can really help yeah I definitely know that uh that slide can get pretty slippery but it's not a bad idea I don't really drink caffeine at all but I can think of like I don't really drink coffee I rarely have any pop so honestly probably something I can get into the biggest negative that can happen if you're I
(2:23:51) wouldn't say pop because pop could be super bad for you but like just actual just like real caffeine the worst thing that can happen to you is if you become quote unquote addicted to it like I have is if if you stop you're gonna have a really shitty migraine for about a day that's about it yeah yeah see that's not too bad yeah but like honestly like if you're getting to that point before like right as you're starting to come to that point right before CH get a strong C you're taking like a caffeine pill that doesn't
(2:24:22) have any [ __ ] in it could probably help you a lot I think the only the only part about that that I would feel like most guilty for obviously I think I'd be fine with doing it if I was working on like selling stuff at home but if I had to do it at work I I feel like I would have this sense of guilt on the inside that I'm like harming my body or like taking caffeine just to get more done at work which feels not so great to me even though it's like you know I'm at a job I should be getting stuff done so what what harm do you believe caffeine does
(2:24:55) to your body so maybe not even harm at all but I guess just taking taking supplements to make myself work harder it feels not so right or maybe taking supplements to work harder for somebody else makes me feel not so right so fair but what do I want to say to this if you don't have like any in my opinion there's absolutely nothing wrong with caffeine like I think yeah if I have no like health conditions or anything then I shouldn't be like too bothered by it a pretty normal thing I think it's a [ __ ] miracle to be
(2:25:39) honest so I mean if you had like any moral quantities with it or like something that's like religious but I don't think any any religions are against caffeine I okay maybe but besides that I don't think like you have anything that you should feel guilty about that's fair I think I'm just being weird about it honestly it's probably more of a a me thing than something that has to have a solution it's not like we're sitting here taking hat all or something right yeah yeah yeah exactly which does wonders I've never taken sure you I was
(2:26:09) say I'm sure you tried it I've never taken any stimulants at all besides caffeine it is quite insane I remember taking outter all in University and it was crazy no because I come from a background of like I said there's tons of degenerates in my family so I don't feel like I have an addictive personality but I also don't really know yeah you're just a little worried that it could turn into something more that's understandable kind of respect that very much a possibility for sure I've like I'm able to consume uh I would I would 100% say I'm
(2:26:45) addicted to caffeine but I'm able to consume things like I've extensively tried we weed when I was younger and mushrooms and uh I tried cigarettes I thought they were [ __ ] disgusting I enjoy cigars but I can do all those things in moderation I can I can have a drink like a drink in moderation but I just never really know I think I was a little bit worried about that when I was younger see my brother do a [ __ ] ton of drugs and then I think I was the same way like I did weed when I was younger got over it didn't really like it tried mushroom a
(2:27:20) few times tried MDMA which that was an insane experience but it never it never turned into like an addiction it was always just doing it casually and then kind of getting over it right things would happen for most people when they tend to grow up yeah that's fair um the most extreme thing that I've done is taking a way too high dose of an edible when I didn't take Edibles like have a I've had that experience before my friend passed me half a cookie when we were going out when we were much younger and I have never been so high and just
(2:28:03) slumped over in the club I was fried out of my mind it was not a good experience yeah I used to be of course you did stereotypical Jamaican dude the special the brownies are special man be careful that's hilarious um was fun with with that edible that happened is like I never really took I think before this I may have took like a 10 milligram edible like maybe once or twice in my life uh my friend he he said that his brother can get these Edibles that are like super strong and he's like do you want to try them like sure and he's like
(2:28:57) okay well what do you want to do you might as well get one for each and there were 400 milligrams and I I didn't have experience with that was soever that is insane so he came over there was like these butterflies they were like decent size uh we got pizza we ate it and then we sat on my couch and ate these things tasted like [ __ ] and then I remember sitting there and like like 15 minutes in like I asked him like oh like how long is this going to take to kick in he's like probably like 30 minutes or an hour and that's like all a sudden within
(2:29:28) like 20 minutes I feel like I was having a heart attack I feel like I was gonna die I'm like oh [ __ ] this like this is already way too much so I run to the toilet I tried to make myself throw up and that didn't help whatsoever I'm pretty sure it made it worse oh my God and then it was just like it was it wasn't super great like I threw up a couple times I uh I remember like I didn't think it was possible black out on edibles but I certainly did and like I was like I'd like come to and like I like standing in the mirror of my
(2:30:03) bathroom like look at myself freaking the [ __ ] out and then I definitely passed on on my bathroom floor and then my friend was just on my couch as [ __ ] up and then his girlfriend came by to check on us later and he couldn't figure out how to let her into my building like he couldn't figure out like he was trying to like use my cell phone when there was like a landline phone that was ringing and so he eventually made his way downstairs and she came in and she told me afterwards that she thought I was like dying
(2:30:32) because she couldn't get a response from me but I remember her coming in saying like oh I don't know if I should like call an ambulance or something and I I was like thinking to myself I was trying to say like yeah you should like I was like I felt like oh my God like I was [ __ ] dying that insane I've never heard someone taking that much in Edibles I I was fine I was absolutely fine but yeah it was definitely a fantastic experience oh God that's funny and I was still [ __ ] high the next day like one 1M wake up like I need
(2:31:06) to like go get a coffee I got my I got my vehicle I'm like no I can't dve that's so bad there was a time me and my friends went to the movie theater and it's that same friend that I was talking about that has a business now he wanted us to order some edibles to the movie theater so we ordered like a chocolate bar and I think it was like I don't remember how much a couple hundred milligrams in the entire chocolate bar and we go out grab it go back into the movie theater and I'm like breaking off pieces and like
(2:31:34) passing it down to everyone I break off another piece and I pass to my friend like oh pass this down to like our other friend and I don't think he heard me right cuz he took two pieces and everyone else just took one and then we went back to his house after the movie and we're all just like high out of our mind and my friend that took two pieces said he's going to go to bed like he's way too high and then he comes out like an hour later and he's like I don't know if I just had a dream that I vomited everywhere or I actually did and then we
(2:32:00) go into his room and there's like projectile vomit all over the walls and the floor and it was so [ __ ] disgusting it's nasty [ __ ] nasty yeah carried away so quick yeah yeah so I haven't I haven't part partook any appal since then and that was like a good probably like five plus years ago yeah I don't blame you I feel like that would take me off of them for life I I would hate that I don't have anything against them it's just like H just I have no aspirations to do it anymore that feeling of being too high
(2:32:39) is the worst feeling in my my opinion like I hate being too high yeah like you don't have any control control over it yeah exactly you just have to wait it out I can't stand it I made them but uh I only took it one time uh I think first here in University I took it by accident I didn't know and ended up was collecting money at uh so I went to the bank and my friend was with me and uh I waiting in line waited waiting in line and as I re it kicked in when I went up to the teller everything she said to me was funny I
(2:33:23) was like big man in the line just giggling everything she if she said H I started to laugh I was like I had to turn to my friend like something is wrong you have to deal with that I gave her I give give gave gave my information I'm like went outside it was so but like ah it was crazy it was like one of those experien I'm like I'm not doing that ever again but I like to see people [ __ ] up oh I can just see Ron being a Rost [Laughter] safarian oh that's hilarious I don't make the stereotypes I just see [Laughter]
(2:34:18) them have you ever sent something to Amazon and then when you look at your inventory on um the seller website and it says you have more inventory than you sent to them yeah that happens usually like 90 95% of the time you just leave it alone it'll correct itself oh okay I was trying to look back at how many I sent them and I was like I swear to God this is like almost double yeah and I did not s that much but very rarely like they won't correct it and you'll basically get free units um but like no way what it it can happen
(2:34:54) but it's very rare like even like sometimes like if it happens like months down the road all a sudden they'll find the correction and then they'll like adjust your balance accordingly oh okay I see yeah uh Harmon you want to come on the mic and talk about what you had going on because I know you do a lot of things and I see you're talking about a lot of things in here and I'd be interested to hear everything that you do and how you into it uh sure man um I don't know where to start but I'm still in school I went to high school that I graduated and
(2:35:28) I started University uh about three and a half years ago so I have another year and a little bit left but uh honestly looking like I might want to drop out at this point because things are going good and um kind of want following Jordan's path you know what I mean but anyways um I dabl in a bunch of things uh honestly since I was like younger pretty pretty much when I was younger I used to buy uh storage units when I was like 15 16 um cuz I used to watch a lot of YouTube videos on just people buying um the whole units and flipping them and I had
(2:35:59) some pretty good luck with it and um I have a pretty good Automotive background as well I I've been working on cars my whole life and uh so I know Auto Parts pretty well and uh for a little bit what I was just doing before all the Amazon and eBay and flipping and all that um I was just buying up auto parts that I knew were profitable flipping them locally or on um eBay and making a quick uh Buck off of there too so I have that um another thing was the landscaping business I mentioned I sawed that a couple years ago with a few friends of
(2:36:30) mine and um we've just been doing a little bit of a residential um driveway and such in the winter time well we started off doing fulltime um in the summer as well um for grass and all that maintenance um but eventually we just we none of us we all went our own ways and um we I just bought the truck and I kept the truck uh we have so I just pushed everything to just residentials no plowing and I have a couple of contracts just for a couple um friends and family uh so that's just a side thing nice income um from there and then there was
(2:37:03) the stocks crypto I do a little bit of real estate as well and um Jordan what type of insurance did you do I did uh property insurance commercial insurance and life insurance and Investments oh okay yeah I uh recently around two years ago I got my life insurance license as well so I've been dabbling a little bit here and there to helping friends and family out with that um so I just have a bunch of income sources and I've just been really hustling and working I literally pulled a Jordan for the past year when uh complete ghost mode from
(2:37:34) everyone and everything and just decide really to hunker down and create something no I have my license as well cuz uh in the future I do plan on buying properties and stuff so it's better to have your own license rather than pay a realtor commission other than that there's just some small things here and there but yeah I mean that's the way it goes in this type of economy in these days you just have to make money and you need you need five six jobs to even uh live a wealthy enough lifestyle to achieve your goals right and so just let
(2:38:04) me frame this for everybody because you're 22 correct yeah 22 you're in school how how much how much are you selling per month on Amazon again um I started like nine probably 9 months now 10 months coming up uh last month I did 130k holy [ __ ] and how much are you doing in your other businesses Revenue wise um I would estimate just net profit another it could be anyway it varies right just spends how much time I put into it but anywhere from like 10 to 20K so just put this into the perspective right like and
(2:38:44) like Harmon is obviously like a bit of an exception to most people but there's multiple people in here that do things not always exact the exact same way but do things at a scale that you'd be surprised with along with doing other things in their day-to-day life absolutely so but I mean at the end of the day um it's just it's literally how bad you want it I follow a couple mentors I I look up to David gogin and uh at the end of the day I still make time to go to the gym I'm still out here deadlifting for five so I mean there's
(2:39:20) that cuz health is wealth even though I have a crippling nicotine and caffeine addiction just like Jordan but yeah like it just goes to show if you're willing to put in some sacrifice and be extremely consistent and don't [ __ ] around with your time you can accomplish a lot absolutely you you didn't even hire any employees until like a couple weeks ago right I didn't have any employees until you and I had a pretty nice long discussion of why I should be delegating and uh I just needed to make more time cuz I was just feeling burnt out
(2:39:56) completely and uh now that I have a little more time I'm able to focus more just on eBay and flipping in general where the margins are a lot higher yep that's pretty impressive hearing like all those different sources of income and you're [ __ ] hitting 405 deadlift yeah I'm only I'm only doing Canada I'm not with all especially with all the tariffs and things going on there's too much uncertainty I was looking to expand in into uh the us but uh at the moment it's just a no for me and again I can tell you like good
(2:40:30) [ __ ] bro I I never want to dox anybody or say something about somebody that they don't want me to say but we have people in here that have accomplished a lot of crazy [ __ ] and you may never you may never hear of it m the only that made me like push really hard and I'm going to be pushing around this year is Dan's post he's doing unbelievable numbers um and bro just for the sourcing method it's just storefront stocking and now I have a VA helping out as well but the lead list too the lead list and going down that straight Rabbit Hole
(2:41:01) from jumping from lead to lead and eventually you'll find a bunch of a stor firm that has a bunch of wholesale opportunities um so you start going through the brand brand websites contacting them calling them and then that that's pretty much it so I'm happy that that gives um motivation like when you see posts about that like you'll notice that I yeah have like never ever shared any screenshots because I always feel like people have false expectations when that happens but maybe I should start yeah he finds um just um currently
(2:41:40) it's probably 5050 awaya wholesale but eventually the goal is just to do 100% wholesale it's easier to manage and less headache compared to just doing Arbitrage yeah especially the cancellations and all that kind of stuff with Arbitrage and all the different emails you have to create yeah that's the only thing other than that Arbitrage is still very profitable and if you follow the methods correctly and buy from certified retailers I don't think you'll have any problems as long as you're getting official invoices and all that I did
(2:42:14) Retail Arbitrage too in the beginning for probably like 2 3 months but then after I started seeing all section threes and everything being issued and I know you can pass them even with a receipt it still wasn't a risk I wanted to take cuz I'm in this game for the long term and not the short term it isn't about making a quick Buck it's just it's about creating wealth from this business and transferring to something else as well that's even more long term 100% um I hope Dan talks about when we have our session on I think it was
(2:42:49) Monday or Tuesday uh because he was a bit of a DJ like when he was in school and stuff too so it's interesting to hear about uh people's stories of like where he like where people came from like he he he he said before like he used to basically sit around play video games and smoke weed all day so he's very different today I used to be me to at one point but I was like what am I doing got a little reality check and just start hunker down and Rel we Lo in but uh even like for uh bra over here talking about stuff like yeah what you
(2:43:30) do is 100% very impressive and I'm always impressed by what you do but even with himself so he's young as well he's also accomplished and does a lot of different things so even if like he ever discusses what he does I guarantee you a lot of people would be impressed bro smart this guy's always coding something and doing something without a doubt he has a lot of potential I know it I haven't working on quite a few projects yeah I know and if you if he doesn't complete them he's going to get the belt Jason what's up
(2:44:21) if you want to come on the mic you certainly can sorry I wrote it out um my my my Discord ping is I got to find the channel again you wrote out in in Discord yeah yeah am I per is it the one about permanent address in Ontario yep okay so my per address is on onario but I'm in BC for 6 months my Amazon seller account is set up to Ontario as my usual place for residence Jordan guide guide says billion and shipping address must match to the seller account can I sell NBC so like you can add multiple addresses to your
(2:45:03) seller account um the main thing that you want is like your shipping and billing address don't have to be the same on invoices but one of them on the invoice or the receipt or not receipts because receips don't have addresses but uh invoices confirmations should have the same ad one of the same addresses that's on your seller account so if your main address in your Seller Central account is uh Ontario and you're currently getting things delivered to BC you should go into your Seller Central account and in the
(2:45:35) settings let me just find where it is here you can you can add a secondary address and you should add your BC address so in that way if you do ever get asked for invoices for authenticity or face Section 3 you have that address linked to your account all right yeah I was just wondering because um I had to show the proof of address by going to my bank and stuff but uh I don't have that here cuz I'm just uh I don't have a proof of address in BC I'm just staying with my brother here so to add that secondary address I
(2:46:05) don't believe they'll ask for you uh for proof okay yeah for for your main address when you first sign up on your tax interview they do but for to add in a secondary address I don't believe they do okay okay thank you 100% but yeah even if people use like uh prep centers like I recommend that you do that even with your prep Center put that address in as a secondary address in your account it really helps as a just in case sorry did you say something about prep centers yeah so like if anybody uses a prep Center like just mentioning
(2:46:36) like you should also the address that you use for your prep Center should be a a secondary address in your account as well okay yeah for yourself Jason how long have you been selling on Amazon for dude uh um I was thinking of doing my first shipment tonight oh very exciting yeah um uh cuz I just moved to be I just like technically moved here to BC for school I'm starting in September and so I'm just staying here for the time being and uh I was I did I didn't re I didn't look into the server much and so like I'm kind of hesitant on like what I'm
(2:47:25) missing before I like place my order you know cuz all all I need to do right now is ungate this brand and then buy like 10 units and then sell it and is it that simple at its core kind of but there's a lot of additional like Logistics and [ __ ] you have to deal with Amazon and how to vet a product that go into it it but you it's hard to say like everything that you have to do because a lot of that stuff you kind of learn as as you go and with time okay so I mean like the main things that you want to do is like how many
(2:48:01) like have you have you already purchased products no I was going to do it tonight okay and so the main things that you want to ensure is that obviously that the products that you're purchasing that you can actually sell because you'll be restricted a lot on Amazon so have you ensure that you can do that ensure that I can sell this product yes uh how do how do you do that so you just want to grab the as open up open up your Seller Central account okay and then let me open it up here and I can guide you through it
(2:48:36) yeah uh we click on the setting menu in the top left and click on catalog and add product yeah and type in uh punch that as in there and click search okay and then let me grab an as so I can put in my account so I hav done this process for a long time and then when you click on the product uh it'll say select a condition to sell uh if that doesn't appear and it's completely blank like if it's uh says restricted or unavailable that means you simply can't sell the product you should have a drop down that says new used and
(2:49:15) potentially collectible uh I'm getting no results for my search query I put in the as into the okay are you sure the as is correct uh using cell ramp uh the little pop up on the side okay and it doesn't pop up on uh with the marketplace is your Marketplace in Canada does it say it's directed to Canada at the moment if you look at the the top of Amazon St Central it will say your store name and it should say the marketplace oh oh I see United States I'll change it to Canada okay all right all right three lines catalog at
(2:49:58) products it's been quite a while since I've done the basics so this is good refreshing my know it okay condition new okay so I can apply okay okay so then uh click on apply and it'll actually tell you the requirements that you need to meet cuz some products it'll actually tell you that depending on your supplier you may need more than 10 units okay okay I believe I believe in general it's just with utilizing Amazon it requires more but always just check that as just in case and so where do you plan on purchasing units
(2:50:35) from uh from the Brand's online store okay because they have a sale so just because you're purchasing from that store doesn't mean the invoice is going to work to get ungated okay okay so I would probably actually encourage you depending on how much Capital you have to probably find a product that you can sell regardless that you're currently ungated for right now instead of attempting to get ungated okay okay because like invoices are only supposed to work if they're a quote unquote distributor invoice uh some retailer invoices will work just
(2:51:14) because they look like distributor invoices but if you don't if you don't know what the invoice looks like if you don't know anybody that's used that retailer to get ungated it's not guaranteed to work okay that kind of sucks that the uh the the the website itself invoice doesn't work yes so like when you when you ask about like is it really that easy it's kind of not always yeah okay do you if you don't want to share that's completely cool but do you mind sharing what what website it is what retail is uh it's Paula's Choice okay so do not
(2:51:52) buy from them no so they're not reseller friendly oh okay okay okay that makes um is that is that something you guys learned yeah so I don't think there's evidence that they've they've had IP issues in Canada yet as far as I'm aware um but I know that they're not reseller friendly so it might be okay to buy some units but if you're trying to expand with with that brand you're going to have constant cancellations oh okay it's going to be a pain in the ass to buy more than five units at a time do you have like a list
(2:52:28) of this stuff certainly do man uh give me a second here thank you let me make sure we're [Music] kosher okay I'm G to share my I'm G to share my screen give me a second it's always good when you're sourcing to have like um the block list and the approved sites okay on the screen so are you able are you able to see my screen uh yeah Okay cool so we come in the support and resources category and under guide guides and resources just click on any link that will open up our GI book this has like all of our prior live calls say all of our resources
(2:53:20) different guides stuff like that uh under I believe it's under Amazon resources we have a Arbitrage retailers okay so I have two things here I have a blacklist and I have a retailer database so the black The Blacklist has different retailers on it that have been blacklisted for different reasons depending on what's listed there okay so some is because retailers will have IP issues some are not reseller friendly some are you know multiple multitude of different reasons and then the retailer database these are retailers that we've actually
(2:54:00) actively sourced profitable OA products from and okay there's currently almost 1300 retailers in here yeah so like you don't have to obviously Source just within this little confines but this is a really good place to start if you're not sure where to find profitable products cuz we have found profitable products from every single one of these retailers okay thank you definitely um I would encourage you like if you haven't found uh much for products yet pop in here and look at the retailers that say uh direct next to
(2:54:36) them that means that you're buying from them directly it's usually pretty easy to find OA leads by looking at those guys because you're kind of narrowed down on only one brand instead of looking at like like hundreds or thousands of different brands yeah and considering we've already found profitable procs from all these guys chances are you probably can too okay so that's just a quick and dirty and easy way to start okay thank you so much definitely Jordan uh can I ask a quick question about yourself of course that's
(2:55:12) what we're here for we're is this just like a casual chat Q&A yeah um how old are you and like what was your career path to get you to where you are now you must have not been in here when we started talking about it a little bit earli I was want to say I feel asked that earlier he he spent his time doing it but I'm sure he's happy to do it again that's okay man um I also didn't share like when I was younger so right now I am I always have to think about it I think I'm 31 and I think I turned 32 this year I was born in
(2:55:45) 93 um so when I was younger like what I didn't mention when I mentioned it earlier is I spent a good chunk of my childhood especially my Summers with my aunt and uncle who when I was younger they used to own pawn shops and then they were antique dealers and we spent I spent my Summers with them like going to auctions in the middle of bum [ __ ] nowhere Saskatchewan buying stuff going to flea markets and then they would they never sold stuff online but they'd always like set up at flea market shows have garage
(2:56:18) sales whatever and they' buy and sell things I think that's kind of where I got like the inspiration and kick to be like a quote-unquote reseller and buying things for a profit I think I've had that instilled in me since I was a kid yeah but um I mentioned when I come from a family like of I come from a pretty large family and a lot of them are a lot of degenerates a lot of drug addicts alcoholics people that [ __ ] around uh none of my family has ever went to like postsecondary school um a bunch of for a lack of better words a
(2:56:56) lot a lot of losers in my family and my my my family never had money my parents were always relatively broke but they got by um so when I was younger when I was in high school I was working I was unloading trucks at Walmart and my parents my sister is a journeyman hair stylist like she cuts hair or she she did and she always had an aspiration that she wanted to open up her own Salon but she had no business experience she just thought that'd be a nice idea and so a long time ago um my parents stumbled across a venture of
(2:57:37) people that a guy that had a franchise opportunity for a local a local Salon a local Salon franchise and they they kind of got suckered into it they never had any business experience they didn't have any money but they were able to secure a pretty substantial loan with like the his business plan that he provided to them and uh they got like I think it was like three or $400,000 to open up the salon and they did um I helped them originally like do like the demolition for the salon and then I stuck around helped them set up like their canning
(2:58:10) beds the computers and then I just decided I was like well Walmart's kind of stupid I don't really like working at Walmart so I'll just stick around here here and I'll help you guys out cuz you don't know how to um they don't know how to do anything for business and I was like I think I can probably learn it and help them out yeah so then uh they didn't know how to do bookkeeping so I spent uh a day with our accountant for her to teach me how to do bookkeeping and then I just helped them like with their business operations and stuff
(2:58:38) because again they were not business people whatsoever but we basically they bootstrapped it for I think it was open for like two three years barely getting and then after a while when you know bills were due and they couldn't pay it anymore we decided that like uh rents do uh we're we're getting a notice in the morning that they're going to be uh locking us out like the uh the leasing company so we're like okay we need to shut down so basically that night we gave employees like products and [ __ ] in the salon instead of like their waiters
(2:59:10) because we couldn't afford to pay them and then we try to clean out as much [ __ ] out of the salon as we could to just take and sell because it was going to get rebu anyway but doing that with their Salon sparked like an interest of in me of like I knew that I liked business uh it didn't matter to me what business it was I didn't care if it was a salon I I don't care about beauty products and tanning and [ __ ] like that but I knew I liked business so from there uh I started with them like basically right basically almost right after I graduated
(2:59:44) high school and then like three like three-ish years in that Salon shut down and then I got a job uh as a manager at a tanning salon because I needed a job and that I had experience in that so it was just like an easy job to get and again like I mentioned before I'm not Metro or homosexual I don't care about T I don't care about beauty but it was something that I knew how to do and again I enjoy the business aspect and then when I was there I was there for a couple years there was an insurance office across the street in a
(3:00:19) different uh complex and a girl that came in there regularly she just randomly asked me one day if I was she actually like came out of like what her the tan that she was doing and she asked if I if I plan on doing working at t salon for my entire life and it kind of caught me off guard I was like no I was actually registered to start to go to school and I was only going there because it was like a default cuz I was like I had no idea what I wanted to do so I knew I like business so I was planning on going for Bachelors and then
(3:00:52) eventually going for masters of business business administration I didn't want to do it whatsoever because I [ __ ] hate school but but I was like I don't know what I want to do with my life um so then she asked if I would talk to her boss and I was like uh I don't really know I think insurance is kind of like scummy and I like H I don't really know about all that and then later and I never told this the original time that I told it uh but she came in again like a couple days or a week later and brought me a letter from her boss
(3:01:25) saying that she was like to meet me so I kind of just said [ __ ] it and I just went and had a coffee with her and then yeah that she convinced me to quit at the tning salon uh not go to school and start in the insurance industry and so I started with property insurance and insurance is not a very exciting business but I was good at it but I uh expanded from property insurance to Commercial Insurance to life insurance and Investments I was technically uh technically considered a financial adviser at that point but it
(3:01:58) was very I got very complacent I got kind of bored with it so then when I was on a station from work I looked into Amazon well I didn't look into it I came across a YouTube video of a guy selling used books on YouTube which was a guy named Rey resells I was like that looks easy that's something I could do and so I spent about 40 hours that week when I was on my vacation just consuming like YouTube videos and podcasts and then I went out to some THD stores and try to buy some books yeah and then yeah I started with Ed books started uh selling
(3:02:29) on Amazon expanded that got the book operation pretty like decent size it really helped me increase my Capital because we started with basically nothing like it was like a thousand bucks but books are super profitable that it don't sell very quickly um so that was able to help me increase my capital A lot just because you can get them for basically free expanded into like used consoles and video games um slowly slowly went into Retail Arbitrage and then online Arbitrage and then got into wholesale relatively early and then yeah just
(3:03:06) really expanded my business from there while I was working I mentioned that uh I was working a [ __ ] ton um I would basically go to work come home take care of my dogs eat and then start working on my business and I would work on my business most days until about 2: 3 4: in the morning and then I'd go to sleep and then I have to wake up at 8 o'clock and go to work and I did that I did that for probably I don't remember exactly how long it was I want to say it was probably like two years or so and then Co popped off everything got
(3:03:43) locked down and my [ __ ] my sales skyrocketed because I was heavy into like groceries and consumables and and that's what kind of like kicked me in the ass of like I need to quit my job and trying to do this full-time and then long story long basically uh quit my job went back part-time because they said they asked me if I want to do parttime uh went parttime for a couple months fully quit kept expanding and yeah just been growing ever since and now we're here that's awesome dude yeah so I mean it's not like super exciting
(3:04:20) and there's just like a lot of consistency and like again I've been at Amazon itself for since 2018 um and then I started these other businesses um some of them came out of necessity or other people asking me for it some of them came out of boredom so like I start I started the leadist business that I have for Amazon in I always forget the Year let me check the year when I started it uh my first customer I have tracked and started late 2021 so basically like started 2022 so I started that because somebody specifically asked me I was
(3:05:03) always trying to get involved in like the Amazon community so I was part of like Facebook groups talking to people uh because I always felt like networking talking to people you could learn a lot of stuff that way so I had somebody ask me uh if I would be willing to sell something leads to her cuz I mentioned that I had a I had a virtual assistant working for me sourcing leads and I have way more leads than I can personally buy and so I like I thought about it like as like it wouldn't really make sense unless you're willing to pay me a
(3:05:32) good chunk um and she wasn't willing to pay me like as much as I thought it'd be worth so then I started looking into like a leadless business I didn't know that they existed but I found out that they existed I was like oh that's a business model that I might look into so then I just decided decided I was like yeah [ __ ] it we'll try that and so I tried that talked to some people that I knew some people subscribed and then slowly built that up and then in 20 2023 I was kind of bored and I was looking into like just general like
(3:06:04) flipping reselling servers and I found one I came across one in the US called Flip Flip and I joined it and I'm like I'm I consider myself like a decently techy dude and that like can figure [ __ ] out I went that server I was like Jesus [ __ ] Christ like this is confusing as [ __ ] like just how it was formatted there's so much [ __ ] in here uh like it's hard to navigate support wasn't great and like there was nothing in there for Canada so I was like I bet I can do something like this better for Canadians
(3:06:34) and then so yeah I started this and so we've been growing this ever since thank you man the server is great I appreciate that but yeah so like took like the idea of like a traditional like quote unquote cook group I guess you would call it and made it more Amazon focused than most because that's our background that's where most of us come from and I I have been growing like our free our free community I started that specifically because I knew it would provide value for people I would meet more people but I knew it would also
(3:07:14) feed into my my leadless business I knew that by default so we started getting finding more and more people so started having like a quote unquote audience and then try this had some people subscribe and then slowly build it from there I haven't really done like honestly haven't spent anything for advertising I haven't really done any advertising whatsoever just recently started like posting stuff on social media for the server but like not really at all it's almost been completely organic for both for both the
(3:07:45) lead list and the server okay so we haven't grown super quickly but I also I also don't mind that because like I can get very busy so it's like I don't always have the time to put in all the all the stuff I want to do so I'm okay with growing a little bit slower and building that information so people when they do join they can see all the value versus like when they maybe if somebody joined right away when when we first opened um the server was [ __ ] when we first opened compared to what it is now was very very
(3:08:19) different okay yeah all right thank you Jordan I got to go now but uh thank you for all everything yeah man for sure have yourself a good night all right good night guys byebye take care take [Music] it Bob bra Nick how's it going you guys have just been pretty good dude yeah I'm just listening I'm getting inspired right now God damn just from everyone's story I like it's interesting hearing where everyone came from right because everyone has like such a different background yeah that's PR crazy where did you come just came back
(3:09:06) from uh boxing gym and uh I'm pretty banged up nice but uh yeah trying to uh not trying but listening to all of the people's stories is uh pretty amazing yeah now I'm pumped up I'm like I was supposed to go to sleep soon but I'm like I feel like adrenaline's running through me right now yeah yeah I heard what other people do and I gotta go do some [ __ ] and be productive yeah I'm like I got to go finish prepping now God damn well Nick you got inspired so tell us where did you come from and how did you get to where you are
(3:09:42) today oh man this is this is I mean kind of short like I grew up you know in Ontario uh went to school and stuff like normal just like a normal kid had a good childhood and stuff you know family is kind of crazy but you know still family uh I grew up basically like addicted to video games um and I don't know if any of you guys played it maybe the younger guys but I grew up playing run Escape right like I was absolutely addicted to that game I played that [ __ ] when Roomscape 2 first came out yeah there you go so I played it for like since
(3:10:27) 2007 right into tell I was like 20 something like 20 21 or so uh or probably even 22 23 but basically RuneScape is what got me into business because there's an economy in the game right you you could like flip items in the game for money but I got into the gambling Community essentially and there's a huge huge black market in that game right like there's a lot of people that I know that have made Millions from that game right especially like taking all their profit from the game and buying crypto at the right time
(3:11:05) and stuff um but essentially I started off in business with a buddy of mine when we were like 13 we started like there were Clans in the game that you could pay gold to join and the gold could the gold essentially has real life value to it that you could sell it for so like you basically buy like a rank in this clan for a th000 bucks and we just basically you know as kids like farmed up that gold playing the game and then essentially this clan allows you uh like to to gamble you're allowed to take bets in this clan but you have
(3:11:45) like a 60 55 to to 60% chance to win that bet so like you're the you're the casino essentially so I started off with that like doing that and selling gold you know like making making okay money at that point I was like 13 or 14 years old and you know I'd eat out at lunch at high school every day never had to ask my parents for money and stuff um and then as I got older and as we grew we're like oh instead of like doing this we could open our own website where we just buy gold for cheap and resell it for higher right so we got into that
(3:12:25) selling um flipping RuneScape gold and it was you know it was doing pretty well we were probably making like 5 6K a month profit and but then you know young you know probably 18 years old at this point didn't really have discipline there were like problems that we ran to didn't really know how to uh um didn't know how to manage a business properly we were kind of just like you know like excited about the money we're making but we didn't really know how to scale it and we ran into some like copyright issues so it was
(3:13:02) doing well and then we kind of like abandoned that and then I dabbled into like after that I got into crypto and trading um so I was doing that for a while and like like I you know still do trading on the side and stuff but I remember I think cuz mey trades so I remember following him on Twitter because he was posting like his trading charts and stuff that I would look at and then I remembered hearing him getting into Amazon he was retweeting other Amazon sellers and I think one of the people he retweeted was you and then that kind of
(3:13:44) led me to this Discord and the rest is history basically I'm like oh like you know I'll do or like I could try Amazon maybe make an extra 500 bucks on the side a month 1,000 bucks like help cover rent or whatever and then it kind of just like oh I made 1,000 bucks that wasn't that hard that was pretty easy let's keep it going you know and essentially now I'm here and so if you don't mind sharing because I know I know a couple months ago you mentioned people you hit 50k months where are you at where are you at
(3:14:15) today I'm basically like this month I'm on the trajectory for about the same but my um I I'm looking to beat that very soon like I want to hit 100K months in the summertime beautiful but yeah um I took like a little break around Christmas with I was getting my Corporation set up and bookkeeping getting all that [ __ ] in order and then I also just you know little like vacation family vacation and stuff um so that kind of threw off my my momentum a bit but I'm working on getting that back it's kind of crazy how like when
(3:14:57) you take time off uh it could screw up your momentum so I'm like at the point thinking about you know when do I hire VA and stuff cuz like I feel like prepping is prepping is easy to Outsource but it's expensive if you use a prep center right but a VA like helping you take that some of that load off of you goes a long way but um after hearing the stories I just got to [ __ ] go harder I gotta step up not be lazy basically but like I think like there is a point like with everybody like at a certain Junction it makes sense start
(3:15:41) delegating and Outsourcing yeah so I I'm looking to hire a VA this year for sure yeah just help with sourcing it's hard when you're doing everything right you're doing the prepping you're doing the sourcing you're doing the bookkeeping you're doing like the you know like now listing [ __ ] on eBay and stuff you're doing all the spreadsheet stuff making sure all your order tracker and stuff is good and you're not missing anything you're doing the refunds and blah blah blah right yeah and so I would argue that you're
(3:16:12) probably at a spot now where it starts making sense to start thinking about these things because you can probably you can probably start figuring out how much essentially Revenue you're able to produce per hour like with the life blow of your of your business of sourcing and buying products yeah right and so if you're able to quantify that then you can start looking at tasks that eat up a lot of your time that could be outsourced and say it's like okay like maybe I'm able to produce a $100 per hour and value
(3:16:45) when I'm working when I'm doing Revenue producing tasks right so why wouldn't it make sense if I hired somebody for 15 20 bucks an hour to prep right because that is true that is true yeah because if I'm actually which I some people don't do this but if I'm actually working while somebody else is doing like the prep or the sourcing or whatever that may be then it's a net positive and I'm able to combine the hours of multiple people so I can get a lot more accomplished right yeah like sourcing is probably the highest revenu
(3:17:24) producing task I can do right now um purchasing is yeah purchasing exactly not specifically Le sourcing but Le sourcing is still the lifeblood of your business of course for sure yeah prepping is definitely one that is like getting annoying it would be nice to Outsource but like my living situation is kind of I feel like it's kind of hard to to uh hire someone to help me because it's like my prep area is kind of in like a shared living space but I'm thinking about like getting friends to help and stuff and just
(3:17:58) paying them yeah it's a great way to start I mean like you like you have roommates that are willing to help you out sometimes right that's true yeah yeah for sure it might be good to like try and get that like more serious so it's like yeah if if you have a buddy that's there all the time and he's willing to help it's like do you want to like do this like more seriously like like this be what you do and I pay you whatever 20 bucks an hour yeah I definitely I have a friend that's looking for work right now so
(3:18:25) maybe I'll uh you know it's not going to be full-time I'm not at that skill yet but you know some parttime help would go a long way yeah and that's why it's like relatively good and easy to start with somebody that you know because like it has its own challenges of course but you're able to just have somebody basically on call right yeah for sure and then a VA too I got to read through your uh VA guide I heard it's like 70 pages right something like that no I don't think it's that long I think it's like 4 40 so that's yeah that's good
(3:19:01) though but yeah like no like you're probably at that point where it starts to make sense to consider and do those things and then yeah if your time is a big bottleneck then that can really help you get through that bottleneck yeah it's tough cuz i' yeah there's like a lot of family [ __ ] going on and stuff right now too so it's and it kind of happens unexpectedly so that definitely eats up a lot of time and mental energy so it'll be nice to start looking into Outsourcing some things so I don't know if this is applicable to you but I think
(3:19:32) this is important because you mentioned it uh so you say family things and whatever eat up your time it's okay cool it's okay cool what would happen if those things happen while you're at a job that's true you you'd have to go there and work anyway right deal with it when you're done yeah like yeah deal with it when I'm done basically yeah so yeah because like you are you're right like like this is your full-time gig now right yeah so it has to take up a large priority if you're want grow absolutely yeah and like I want to uh I
(3:20:10) want to build my life right you know build it with my you know my girlfriend friend and I have our vision and stuff too you know like we want to build together and stuff so it definitely needs to be you know like I I procrastinate a lot that's for sure I need to learn to delegate my time better yeah like I I get analysis paralysis where like I start overthinking things and it almost you know it like slows me down for sure I overthink things too much we can start a thing where if like that starts happen to you you just send
(3:20:45) me a message just like a keyword and I can just call you and yell you like quit it get back the [ __ ] yeah like yeah honestly like I need that sometimes like hey stop being a [ __ ] get back to work and it's like okay yes just just quit it quit reading [ __ ] just just [ __ ] work yeah honestly and then the things you stress about usually don't even happen anyways right like you create fake scenarios in your head that don't even happen 100% the brain is weird like that 100% I think I have pretty bad ADHD too so that doesn't help
(3:21:21) but well you know figure out ways to to to get through it you've already come this far right absolutely and it could be a superpower because it kind of it makes you creative it makes you look at things from a different perspective as well that's kind of what got me into like you know making money from a video game and stuff and it just makes you think outside the box but it could also be a hindrance if you don't know how to control it right so to but hey that's life right figuring [ __ ] out yeah learn to play Within whatever abilities and
(3:21:55) limitations you have for sure no but it's great seeing seeing the business grow like just cuz I remember like a year ago I was like [ __ ] I'm I don't know how I'm going to pay rent you know I'm like cutting it close and now it's like oh [ __ ] like my net worth is actually increasing every month like this is this is a good feeling like that's that's a beautiful thing yeah and you're doing it off of your own the fruits of your own labor you're not right exactly you're not specifically depending on somebody else yeah there
(3:22:30) was a point in time where I had to get a shitty retail job just to kind of help me pay my rent just to supplement it because all the money I made from like RuneScape and stuff was running out and yeah I had to get a shitty retail job and dude I you know like I don't I don't like speaking like this but bro I it was I wanted to kill myself you know it was so bad like because I felt like I was just wasting all my potential there you know and it's just like oh it's a stepping stone but taking that full like that
(3:23:05) jump full time was was essential like things happen where my contract got cut short and I was planning to quit like maybe 3 to 5 months afterwards but I'm like oh [ __ ] I'm losing my job now so I got to go all in right and sometimes having a fire being lit under your ass helps you push a bit harder 100% that's what's that's what some people need yeah for sure it's like always like an ideal scenario for like people before they start a venture and like get out on their own it's like okay like have have a safety net say like
(3:23:43) three six months of expenses make sure you're ready whatever but in reality that's not always that always can't be the case with all entrepreneurs it's just yeah sometimes you just have to put your back up against the wall make it work yeah I probably had a couple months worth of living expenses and I was like pretty new at Amazon so I'm like oh [ __ ] we got to we got to go and luckily I had like a decent amount of credit with my bank because of you know previous business and I've been with them for a very long time so I was able to just
(3:24:14) start buying inventory but now I'm running into problems because I'm 100% OA as well where it's like oh [ __ ] like I'm like struggling to get past that like 30k spend Mark a month you know so I think definitely looking into getting a VA to help supplement my sourcing will help or a leads list as well like getting on your leads list might might help a lot too you don't need you don't you don't need to show my stuff while you're here no I know but like you know um I know the [ __ ] you put out is high quality so with that I'm just here uh sorry
(3:24:52) Jordan but Nick um if if you don't want to Shell out the cost of a VA because a VA is going to run you around like five 600 bucks a month I would recommend getting on the lead list in the beginning I was I was in the same situation as you where I just kind of plateaued at like 40 50k 60k and I was like yeah I need to take us the next level so then I started talking to Jordan a little bit and um I've been on the lead list since pretty much day one which probably eight or nine months ago so that's I was able to scale really
(3:25:18) fast um but if you aren't on them I would advise this is I'm not like paid by Jordan or anything to say this but the lead lists are are really good um at the end of the day because you can just you can literally just store from stock from there on all the local Canadian sellers right and it's it's easy Brey from there that's pretty much it all the rabbit hole sourcing you could do from it and stuff too exactly I I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger soon yeah thanks do and when you said you're stuck at like 30 4050 or whatever
(3:25:49) like are you talking spend or just sales in general and spend wise and you're pretty much capped because you can't find any more leads you're rning out a leads you don't have enough time you have to focus on this and that right so yeah and as you grow more and more you got to spend more time prepping more time doing bookkeeping more time doing this right so it takes ex a lot more backing work is involved right it's not just hands on yeah for sure I'll send you your affiliate commission all right Jordan yeah give
(3:26:18) him his referral give him his 50 bucks right now that's what yeah and then all this tariff [ __ ] too kind of like CU a lot of my leads I'm like I was transitioning back to Canada to Canada but a lot of my leads came from the US too and then now the whole tariff [ __ ] I'm like oh [ __ ] like I got to now I'm like focusing 100% on like Canadian Sellers and whatnot so it kind of it was kind of a little like Road bump but you know I'm getting through it CU you put this connotation in your head of like oh my God like doing can
(3:27:00) like Canada Canada how am I going to like spend 100K a month doing that right but it really is possible like a lot of people do it when you break it down it's actually pretty easy once you see see the steps on how to get there it's pretty easy yeah and you just need some help right like but yeah I mean that that's like delegating I guess is a good thing right because you know your business is growing if you're getting to that point and I'm not really capped by Capital right now I have a lot of credit and when I open my Corp the bank's like oh
(3:27:34) by the way since this is a brand new Corp um like where you probably won't get approved for credit but I'm still going to run it through anyways like you're basically your business credit is starting back from zero and then they're like oh you're approved for 30k and I'm like oh [ __ ] nice I'll take that like yeah was that a credit card or a lot of credit um it's like a split it's with Scotia Bank the way it works is it's kind of both like you could split the allocation up between a line of credit and a credit card so I could take like
(3:28:07) 30 grand on a credit card or I could do like 1515 that's kind of interesting how it works yeah what kind of interest rate do you you have with the line of credit um I have to honestly check right now um I haven't had to use it yet so I honestly forget I don't know how to check it right now that's okay not a big deal yeah I think it was like like with the prime and whatever it's called I think it was like 11 12% or something that's pretty standard right now yeah yeah it was like 10% lower than the credit card it's like
(3:28:46) mostly like oh and if I somehow don't get my payout in time I could just use it to pay my credit card off so I pay you know 10% less interest basically yeah yeah um Co bank's been hooking me up with all the credit I have like I have a good amount with them so I'm pretty happy about that well that's good and like that's the the nice thing about being with a bank forever sometimes that can happen yeah yeah yeah yeah because I'm fairly similar situation with RBC they just they give me a [ __ ] ton of credit um yeah but yeah like with that
(3:29:23) though like so I think it's important like you don't obviously don't need to delegate right away but if you look at it from the perspective of like instead of oh this is just another expense look at it from the perspective of I can use so much more time doing other things right right exactly and you can basically compound other people's hours in your business and you'll be surprised in how much faster fter you can grow when you leverage the labor of others right absolutely yeah like you hit a cap and I just read the book what is it called
(3:29:57) buyback your time by Dan Martell or whatever his name is it was honestly really good and it got me thinking a lot about like oh [ __ ] I should definitely I think I should look into hiring a VA and stuff because especially your first va2 like you could get them to Source but then you could get them to do like little admin tasks on the side too right like oh say this task takes 5 hours a week to do or like 3 hours a week to do you could just teach them to do that as well right like they don't have to be 100% sourcing 100% right I feel like your
(3:30:30) your first VA might be a good idea to have them a little bit like more multifaceted just do little tasks for you as well yeah um honestly like anything that you can reasonably teach somebody else to do yeah definitely so I know uh I know Inca we had a conversation about that recently he had asked me about the things that we Outsource and um a lot of our wholesale sourcing I have brought back inh house wholesale sourcing and purchasing okay that was like a personal decision but you can people have outsourced full
(3:31:04) sourcing full purchasing bookkeeping all admin tasks uh account Health maintenance basically anything and everything you can think of right yeah yeah I'm thinking about like cuz or you know I was thinking of just getting Scan Power or whatever but I'm still using like Seller Central to do my shipments so I'm like doing the MSS manually and stuff and [ __ ] like that takes a while right but like having a VA do that for you would be nice you definitely have to look at lever leveraging uh leveraging to make your easier man I'm at that
(3:31:38) point where it's like yeah like I'm feeling it you know and you know when you're doing 20K months or whatever you're like oh this isn't bad but once you start hitting the 50k plus then you definitely start feeling it and I get overwhelmed too so don't worry about it Nick I was on the same boat as you I was using the Seller Central probably up until november-ish and then after that I decided to switch it over to professional software and get everything done uh it saved me a lot of time to tell you at very least it was
(3:32:11) unbelievable um but yeah without a doubt looking into just delegating things and open up more time do you guys use scam power is that what I know Jordan uses that right I use 2D workflow but pretty true okay yeah I think scam power yeah it's like 80 bucks a month that really isn't bad like that's what like an hour of sourcing or something not even take out for for how much time it can save you it's yeah exactly worth it so I mean even if it's increases your shipment speed by like 10% you know that adds up like that's a [ __ ] ton right and
(3:32:53) so like software like that like you don't necessarily have to use scam power for that but like there's other listed software that can make it a whole lot easier to list products instead of doing it through Seller Central which I imagine [ __ ] takes forever yeah but like that speeds up the process a ton just for that but then yeah with software like 2D workflow or scam power it also streamlines your pack and ship and or pack of prep rather and right makes process a lot easier to Outsource others it's a lot easier to
(3:33:22) train somebody on that process it's very easy to do Box contents and 100% once you learn the software it definitely increases prep efficiency right because that's a big one right like you could you know say put the items in the box and then write those contents right the way Seller Central is like you gotta kind of like go like I put all my boxes aside and then you gotta kind of like count what's in the boxes and then like when you're done the entire shipment right and then you got to go back and like oh this is box one it has 12 of
(3:33:54) this and three of this right and you got to go back to like the spreadsheet and add it in blah blah blah scam power you just do it like per box right like oh I put 12 of these products in there and two of those and you could just seal the Box up right after that like and put it aside yeah that's so much better especially because I'm working out of like a small space so like all like stack boxes and [ __ ] and I'm like [ __ ] what was on the first box I have to like unstack it and stuff to see what's in there little things like that eat up a
(3:34:25) lot of time 100% And it's just yeah it's physically demanding too but yeah if you're looking at things like buy back your time definitely like just consider like how much time things can save you and how much more worth like how much time you can buy back and then how much more time you can spend doing other things whether exact whether it's just like doing Leisure things or just growing your business yeah exactly like that's you know everyone wants to make more money and spend less time doing or like make more money per hour
(3:34:58) effectively right so if you buy back some of that time you can enjoy your life more too if that's what you're about but I think it's really important once you see see that that like you be willing to have the mindset of willing to pay something if it gives you more value yeah like I I would go I would go hand somebody 500 Grand tomorrow if they could save me x amount of time that'd be worth my time or Pro profit me a million dollars that makes sense right for sure I wouldn't even think twice if if I knew that they could actually do this
(3:35:31) absolutely and then you also like you could delegate the [ __ ] that you absolutely hate doing and focus more on the [ __ ] you actually enjoy doing right like oh if you enjoy sourcing but [ __ ] hate prepping like it makes sense to to uh try to delegate that out sooner rather than later 100% it'll make your life better overall you're miserable doing stuff you don't like to do yeah like I I I think it it's hard when there's so much to do like your your mind is so split like oh I got to do this and I got to do that I got to do
(3:36:04) this got to do that right like well get your regular [ __ ] done that you would normally do like whatever like purchasing uh admin stuff that you have to do and then spend you know an extra hour or two that day or uh slot out like a time on a weekend like say if you don't normally work on the weekend start thinking about writing down the things that's like okay I can Outsource this this this this right it's like Okay cool so now I can just like make myself make make a clip of me doing it this is my process just talking on on the
(3:36:35) computer and then send that if you do want to hire a VA just send that to the VA doesn't have to be perfect but it's like do this for me yeah like just record a few sourcing sessions just talking through it and stuff right that's like your sop or whatever right yeah that's a perfect way to start perfect way yeah and then if build up a few videos or here's a video on how I do storefront stock and here's a video on how I do keep a product finder blah blah blah and then like you just figure out what works for you sort of thing yeah
(3:37:05) and then you can build out your processes as you go and as you like as like you notice like oh like your your VA does this so maybe this should be implemented in our process right right right and you just slowly just slowly do it and slowly grow right and then like if you want to eventually scale that you can have your VA sit there and like write out your processes and documentation and so so you have your video to accompany documentation with it right yeah that would be yeah that's yeah very smart yeah definitely like it certainly
(3:37:40) takes some work to implement things like that but it's it's well worth it like whether it's software delegating things if you're at that point for sure yeah right it's like are you yeah it's and it it's like the saying right like are you trying to work like work on your business or work in your business right like when you're starting you have to know everything in and out right you have to know how prepping works you have to know how sourcing Works purchasing blah blah blah but like as you get bigger and more experienced it's yeah
(3:38:12) you can teach people how to do that yeah and like ideally most people you're probably not looking to replace a 9 to5 with with another job with more stress like like a business owner right so like eventually you want most people they want to be able to remove themselves from the day-to-day so that like you mentioned like you can actually work on your business instead of in your business consistently and when you're able to do that and you can start leveraging other people then that's when you can really start to scale right
(3:38:43) because there's only going to be so much that you can do if you're working in the day to day like every single day and you're doing everything yourself if that's what you really enjoy doing and some people they want to do that their entire life that's cool uh all power to you but you're going to be capped at a certain point for sure yeah and I think as you start plateauing um and like you're already putting in a lot of effort and you're just plateauing it's like I think that's where the burnout and the stress kind of
(3:39:13) creeps in because you're not really like seeing progress and you're like working yourself to the bone in a way it kind of like you're you feel like I think after a certain point you feel like your labor is not being rewarded um properly 100% yeah and I think um so we had we were supposed to have a ticket call last night and then uh chokey had to uh reschedule but Ron was in the call along with Med or Ethan and we actually had this conversation about like vas and about um figuring out what you're spending your
(3:39:47) time on and then right um like I think a very important and a very good exercise to do um and you can do it starting like tomorrow is just literally like on a piece of paper or on a spreadsheet on a document whatever literally be super super honest and transparent with yourself and write down what you're doing for every minute that day so it's like so it's like say if I start my day at nine o'clock I'm doing 9 o'cl I'm doing sourcing for four hours say that you're doing four hours and then if you take any time in that where you like oh
(3:40:16) you start scrolling or you start looking through uh social media YouTube whatever put that on the paper and actually see what you're doing don't lie to yourself right and do that for like a week and then you'll be able to really look at to see where a lot of your time is going and the things that maybe you should really focus on potentially delegating your Outsourcing or things that are not helping your business grow or things that maybe I can Clump all these little things together I can get I can throw out these things like first thing every
(3:40:44) single day this is going to be my non procrastination 20 30 minutes I'm going to do get rid of all this [ __ ] I normally extend for two hours because I procrastinate on because I don't like it and then really help refine your processes yeah that's a great idea so just write down you know every time you like scroll and procrastinate or yeah like write down everything and then you see how much time you're wasting too right yeah and just like write down so it's like say I'm I'm I'm starting uh sourc at 9 o'clock so I'm
(3:41:16) just going to write down my pad 9 o'cl sourcing and if I change tasks where I'm going to take take a lunch like 12 o'clock lunch and then like 12:30 I'm going to uh ad like admin bookkeeping whatever just write down do it for a week and you'll you'll see pretty clearly at the end of the week if you're really honest with yourself um where a lot of your time is going yeah and like it may not necessarily be a bad thing that you're that you're Doom scrolling on YouTube but if you if you do do that and you find that you're
(3:41:47) looking at YouTube Twitter Instagram for 10 hours a week it's like oh [ __ ] me like that's a yeah when it's actually written down and you see what it's actually doing it's like that's a real realization that I'm wasting [ __ ] T the time yeah like when you actually see it right like it makes it kind of gives you a wakeup call I guess yeah and then you'll also be able to see all the other things it's like okay on average I'm spending 40 hours a week sourcing so it's like okay cool maybe I can cut that back in half have
(3:42:18) somebody else pay pay them however much that's going to cost me and then I can spend that other additional time making more POS or trying to open up wholesale accounts or doing more sourcing if I need more leads or whatever it may be right yeah it's a Rel it's a relatively simple thing that you can do that can be pretty effective to help guide you on where you need to go for sure Cole chilling you left for a while you're back yeah I had some errands to run I don't think you've ever mentioned you want to uh share on how you've
(3:43:02) gotten where you are today with regards to with regards to your business and your life uh I mean it depends where I do a lot of different things so uh I kind of took a break with Amazon after start uh took a break last year like or the end of last year I think when we had a conversation I was asking how much money I should put in but so I had some other things come up and I took a break from that but so uh since January I've been getting back into flipping and I'll get back into Amazon this month as well just been too busy with work
(3:43:45) and other stuff I've been trying to look into but with regards to flipping I've been flipping like a long time I've been doing it since I was in high school so when eBay started I made my EB account like in 2005 and started regularly selling on there like 2010 doing decent amount of Arbitrage crossb Arbitrage and and local flips uh on crazy list and then later on Marketplace came up so yeah I've been I've been flipping a lot I've been pretty much uh pretty into it and then I had to take a step back because of school and career and all
(3:44:34) that stuff and I realized that living here is how expensive as it is doesn't really cut it even though I earn a decent amount but you know tax is crazy right yeah and so are you doing like General flipping because you enjoy it or because like you you're just wanting to earn additional money or both both well I'm familiar with it and I enjoy it doesn't take too much time so any free time I have I look into stuff I flip stuff yeah just uh just learning involved right because I've been doing it so long but certain things certain things
(3:45:20) are different cuz I've been flipping what i' I've I I'm familiar with so there's a lot of stuff in server that I'm not familiar with good to look into new things to flip and basically new niches that I wasn't really aware of but yeah it's uh it's pretty low I guess not really time intensive so whenever I have free time I can hop on look at different things that are trending I look at the different alerts that come up in the Discord and then yeah just flip definitely and so with Amazon before you took some time off uh where did you
(3:46:02) scale Amazon to well I didn't really scale that far I think I was it was it was very sportic it wasn't consistent because my time I didn't have to time because I had some other stuff going on right and yeah I I I didn't really get I didn't really get that far to be honest it's fair nothing happened nothing wrong with that yeah so is it like my plan was to but then I had some stuff come up and I had to take some cash off or other stuff and plus the time I wasn't really I didn't have too much time free time so
(3:46:38) yeah essentially kind of went to the Wayside so is it something that you're wanting to do yeah yeah for sure my goal is definitely to get into as fulltime as possible with Amazon so in the next month or so um definitely go into it full speed so you're you're wanting to make it so it's like a replacement for your job yeah uh yeah you could say that I mean at least earn as much as much as I can given the time that I have with the job and uh luckily for me cuz I have a new position now so now I'm afforded a lot of time as I work from home uh so
(3:47:21) yeah I can uh much see if I can push the limits to that as far as I can go and I do have some I've always wanted to start my own brand and something so definitely that works with Amazon so look into that why don't you start after why don't you start why don't you start a cologne brand that seems to be your thing man uh you know it's funny Colones I've only really gotten into it in like last year or so it's been about a year started getting into it so cologne man I uh I could I could yeah I could I could yeah [ __ ] there's
(3:48:02) a I could I I could yeah I definitely can yeah um with like if you're learning things about like all like these AI marketing tools and stuff 100% you can try leveraging that and I don't imagine it' be that expensive because Colones to produce are pretty cheap yeah actually they are because you know like the a lot of the listing eras that I post those are all brand names right those are all like you know the Dior the the Western brand but what is really popping off uh on social media especially and what even even you can
(3:48:40) even see the sales on Amazon like the top selling colognes aren't the AR necessarily all the Western brands are actually the Middle Eastern ones and what these guys do is essentially they just they just clone it they just clone like the top selling fragrances they put a little twist on it and then they make it like you know two to three times cheaper right because essentially it's not really the ingredients that are expensive like yeah there are ing expensive ingredients like there are really expensive ingredients that some
(3:49:09) of the high-end brands use but most of the stuff that's like sub $200 $300 those are generally not made with like the premier ingredients CU they do it at a large scale so yeah they just take they just uh basically have these perfumers and there's like this big machine that I think costs like cost like $100,000 where they can essentially put a sample in and it gives you all the um potential ingredients that were used so they can just recreate it see so I can tell when you're talking about this these are things that you're
(3:49:44) interested in right so it's very easy to see so you're interested in it so why don't you [ __ ] try it yeah I'm I'm also interested in more Healthcare stuff too and I don't necessarily talk about it as much here because it doesn't really fit too much in with you know with the Discord but I'm I'm really into health and Health Products so I was actually thinking launching uh uh skin care type um brand with using like new kind of Cutting Edge ingredients I follow quite a bit I'm pretty pretty big on health Twitter too so there's there's a whole
(3:50:28) Niche on these I guess non-conventional medications and non-m medications like um basically they're they're basically like substances that aren't necessarily prescribed uh by doctors but their safety profile is well known like some of them are banned in Canada and they're not banned in the States or other countries so yeah but they're really effective and they're so looking actually getting um pharmacologist to get a formulation going for uh or product well and see like you because you already have experience with
(3:51:17) Amazon yeah like obviously you can sell on Amazon like that gives you a leg up compared to like a lot of General brands that don't know how to get started with that right yeah for sure yeah Amazon and Tik Tok I think are the big ones to get marketing going I've noticed there's uh these brands that are doing well they tend to promote on Tik Tok and of course Amazon is really good for it but the problem is with I'll have to see what to include in my product but the issue would be that certain things you can't necessarily sell
(3:51:52) because they'll be quote unquote experimental right because the government designates so but you have to be really careful about the ingredients and any claims that you make and [ __ ] like that yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah I mean if something you want to do I mean especially if it's not like obviously they're all going to have costs but I know like a lot of formulations you can like basically white label stuff and like your own formulation of what you want and it's it's not that expensive to get going yeah like with with regards to the
(3:52:26) cologne thing like comparatively I feel like that would be a lot harder because colognes depend so much on brand and marketing right there's a lot of colognes that there's just so many companies like it's crazy how many new companies are out there uh different clone houses uh new ones that are popping up all the time so it's very competitive and the ones that tend to do well even even if they're shitty like I don't know if there was one of these free colognes actually that we had in our freebi uh Discord it was called Cupid
(3:53:00) and essentially what these guys did like I thing is crap like I had it it's crap but what these guys do they go they made a lot of Tik Tok videos and a lot of Instagram reals and they would essentially just hire you know like uh a lot of actors a lot of girls actors and they would spray it on themselves and then just you know have them say oh smells so good and all that and theen you promote it and they say they use catchy words like pheromones and all this garbage um yeah but it was it requires a lot of marketing
(3:53:35) because the with things like colognes and perfumes they're they're very so a lot of a lot of the time you're buying the brand rather than the actual uh cologne and then yeah and when it comes to production as well so I have to see I'm not really too into that uh business-wise I don't know too much about it business-wise production and what what's involved the manufacturing process because I hav't really looked into it um but I'm more familiar with the health side so yeah regardless of what you want to do I mean if you really
(3:54:14) want to do it you'll you'll figure out ways yeah yeah but you can also like start doing like Gorilla Marketing where you basically like you can start like infiltrating like existing communities that exist and start talking to people that's yeah how I started my whole lead this business um then like say if you were going on like the Clone route you can talk to like those quote unquote influencers like the Clone boy and [ __ ] like that and obviously things like that if they talk about your product that can give you a a mad boost yeah yeah and
(3:54:45) some of them like depending on how big they are probably wouldn't be that expensive there's even websites that you can actually get I forgot what it was called I had it saved somewhere but there's a website where you can essentially hire celebrities to promote your product right uh to do a video uh of your product how it was called um have you heard of it I don't believe so okay there's quite a few celebrities on like even Floyd Mayweather's on there obviously charges a [ __ ] ton but I'm familiar like Cameo is it Cameo Cameo is like where
(3:55:18) you can get them to make like shout outs and videos and [ __ ] so I imagine I think that's it I think that's it yeah yeah I think it's Cameo you can probably get them do your product yeah yeah yeah it's I think Cameo but yeah like the thing is I think a lot of the small small producer small content creators that have a like a smaller following they tend to have a a higher conversion rate compared to these large million plus uh following so if I were to do that I'd probably go for the more smaller influencers that' be
(3:55:54) cheaper too so yeah like you never know like what could come of it right so like yeah I I follow some things like that just because they interest me and there was a um a poke I guess you call them like a Pokemon influencer on YouTube his name is uh Pokemon doctor so I didn't follow I didn't follow him because I was I wasn't interested in what he was doing but I noticed that a community started around him so they started a community called uh Pokey notify and so I don't know for sure because I don't talk to any of the guys involved but
(3:56:28) I'm pretty certain that what happened is the guy who started the community he used to be involved in like groups like ours okay and he had this aspiration that he thought he could start like a group but Pokemon Centric and so he yeah he had reached out to this guy named I'm pretty sure it's like Pokemon doctor I think it's Pokemon doctor how big is he so I don't I don't think he's a massive YouTuber's up every decent so he has he has 12,000 subscribers so not not even that big um but he had reached out to this
(3:57:03) dude and partnered with him to open up this Discord server and they launched a Discord server with like some restock monitors and like a community around Pokemon not not not like reselling but just being able to get them at retail and have restock monitors and a community around it and they launched it it was originally free and then they put it behind a small pay wall and uh I'm in it I'm not a paid member but let me check I'm pretty sure they they didn't launch that long ago and they're at like thousands of members and their monthly
(3:57:30) fee is like five or $6 doar a month uh so in a relatively short period of time they were able to grow a community based on basically his audience and then some of their promotions um and I want to say that they're probably producing in like over like $440,000 plus per month Us in Revenue yeah yeah kind of crazy and like they did like no traditional marketing right yeah yeah partnering with people that are already in it yeah yeah so the guy who started the server he joined the server in October 2024 but I'm pretty sure they didn't
(3:58:06) launch until like very late 2024 yeah probably like October November December so yeah I guess that's not that long ago so yeah just a couple months is it any good there there notification or monitors um I had joined when it was free and they're they're utilizing some of the same tools that we're utilizing um besides that like it's just very poke Pokemon Centric so I don't think unless you want like us focused I don't believe they would have anything that we wouldn't have yeah I'm just looking at their website I think looks like a reseller
(3:58:45) website cuz going uh in their success you see the typical you know uh bunch of boxes stacked up crazy yeah yeah but like a lot of those guys like they're buying like sets of break them and guarantee like some of them are like resellers 100% yeah it's not built around that and so like sorry uh I'm gonna go now but um Jordan how often are these calls held uh we typically have uh like multiple calls per month like these General just server Hangouts usually about once per month and then we'll have like Amazon sessions or ticket sessions
(3:59:20) Etc ah got it are those in the events section of the Discord yes definitely so we have one coming up on tomorrow so take it call tomorrow and then we're having a more business Amazon Centric call on Monday okay okay okay thank you again yeah for sure have a good one me too um their paid members how many are online right now I don't think I can see all their members but last I checked yeah so like their premium members So Paid members online right now is 1,600 and so that's probably about like 30% 30% of like their base so they probably
(3:59:59) have like five 6,000 Members Plus considering they have [ __ ] 1,600 online and they're all paying they're all paying I think like 7.99 us down yeah and I grew quick what that for it uh it's a community called Pokey notify it's like a Pokemon Centric Community it's $7.99 a year or a month $7.
(4:00:23) 99 us per month oh okay dude I was gonna say who the [ __ ] paying for that godamn so they made it really cheap but yeah we're just like talking about businesses and I was talking about like how um I came across this because I seen like they were launching this community and I was just interested in how they did it because the guy who started it I'm pretty sure his background is like in groups like ours and he partnered up with a relatively small Pokemon YouTuber called Pokemon Docker who only has 13,000 subscribers and they launch us like October 2024 and they're already at
(4:00:54) like I can't see the full members but I can see online they have 1600 paid members so they have probably with the offline members too probably like five six, members total and that's that's crazy that's quick and those are paid members yeah these collectible groups are I guess easier to establish because there's such a fan based and like there's always there isn't always a short talk about or do and discuss 100% but like similar processes to an extent like obviously you need your own unique ways to do it can be apply to many many different
(4:01:31) businesses yeah I mean I started a [ __ ] server about Amazon right right yeah there's a lot in trading like trading groups a lot of straight up scam but like some of them will have like thousands of members paying like 400 bucks a month or something on some of them some of them generate like $2 million a month or something it's insane yeah I was in uh I don't know oh I didn't mention but I used to be in NF okay yeah well I could tell by your picture yeah yeah so I I was doing that uh during co uh and the bot groups that
(4:02:13) were in there were also like cook groups so uh they would you know post calls and do analysis and all this other stuff and then they would have a bot and their bot was at the time when I saw when I first joined was3 eth a month so that basically came out to like a th000 bucks a month at the time right right uh I was paying it because the bot was good he money so uh and there was like there must have been 500 Plus members paying members and and they would also you know do like there would be a lot of collabs with these uh with these projects where
(4:03:02) they would basically give you Whit list which is like essentially Early Access uh to these nfts and they would give it to the B groups right because the B groups they would essentially because it's on the blockchain you could see all all the activity happening is if people noticed that a bunch of people are hyped for this they notice a lot of different accounts buying or wallets are buying then they get hyped for it too so it would give Whit list to us and essentially was free money so it's essentially like these popular
(4:03:34) brands uh they would launch an nft they would give wh list to us and then you would flip it literally after it goes public make right easy easy money and then um yeah so now it's ns are kind of dead kind of back coming up and down but [ __ ] yeah the meme coin [ __ ] took and that's a lot more degenerate yeah every cycle it's a new thing and it gets more and more degenerate as time goes on yeah it's it's really brain rot it's complete nfts were brain rot but [ __ ] coins are even worse ENT you're gambling on a meme see
(4:04:12) if it'll pop off or not and the M yeah the memes are just there there was one some sure cuz I still know people that are in it and they make good money they make like um they make a lot of money and there there was one I was just looking in the success section of the Discord and you were sharing it was essentially um it was called shitcoin and it was literally a dog picture of as that that was the meme and and like it went up to a couple million market cap so yeah well yeah I mean there's like fart coin and stuff yeah it's stupid
(4:04:51) it's really stupid that one absolutely popped off and then the whole Trump coin and [ __ ] too well Trump coin was a pretty safe bet yeah compared to the the other meme coins yeah compared to the other meme coins are all very stupid but yeah Co chilling is just a d gen yeah I mean me to like I used I didn't get into shitcoins I didn't get into shitcoins I stopped at n the buck stopped at because the thing is with nfts were the thing with nfts is there were utility to it so like essentially a lot of them they worked as memberships
(4:05:27) and even now there's still projects that hold their floor where for example you talk you guys were talking about investment groups there was there is one still now that if you join with an nft you join with nft and the nft basically use that as a ticket to join their Discord right cuz you verify with a Discord bot that you have it and you join the group and that counts as a membership as long as you hold it you get a membership uh you don't have to pay and that group was essentially like an investment group they had stocks they
(4:05:59) had like um real estate had um uh all these different things that they had in their group and they had they had tens of millions of dollars of funding too so it wasn't just like some you know bunch of teenagers that got together with some people there were like legit people in there um legit people in businesses making a lot of money so yeah that floor shot up to like um 15 grand so yeah and then there's there's in big influencers that came into and they they had their own groups and stuff uh but yeah so so yeah how come you a lot of money to
(4:06:47) be made everywhere how come you left those groups the investment oh cuz I didn't believe in it I I do I did quick flips bro I just got in and got out I didn't stick around for long cuz at that time for that specific group that one I joined early and they were still building right and you hear that all the time so uh I wasn't too familiar what they were doing and cuz a lot of it was under RS so I joined I made good money left cuz I was already in a group that was I was making money with like I like I said I was paying essentially a th000
(4:07:23) bucks a month for the uh bot group uh yeah yeah my buddy speaking of groups I don't know what group it is but he's in a um a Discord group in the UK cuz he's from the UK and it basically is like a bot that scra it's kind of like the price eror bot right like we have in here but it yeah it scrapes thousands of beauty websites and there's a lot of like it seems like it's a lot more common in the UK but there's a lot of beauty sites that will have products for z or like one cent like price errors and you know there's
(4:08:06) times where he gets orders in for like hundreds of units and stuff and he doesn't know how much longer it's going to be viable for but but yeah he made like 50k in the past three months or something it's pretty crazy it just goes to show there's so many ways to make money oh man there's like with one of so my biggest fumble so there's actually this there's actually this what do you call it uh this tool where if you input your eth address it tells you your biggest fumbles okay so with regards to NPS yeah yeah that's not nice to look at no no no
(4:08:43) no it wasn't cuz I would have been up Millions yeah to there there was this one there was this one uh project that it was a stealth release there's no information on it was essentially just like a a website with just like a background um of like some anime character um their own I guess anime character and so they just stealth relas said no announcement nothing they released it and then um I bought a bunch I flipped it made good money and then it keep the floor kept going up and then you know there's a lot of influences
(4:09:16) that I track like I don't know if you guys heard of Steve ioki yeah yeah he's big into nfts yeah he's known to be in the nft community he's know he's known as a top signal right so anytime you see him buy it you know it's too late you better start selling so absolutely he started buying it and after he bought it it still started going right so uh find out later that the people that created that project are C are making a video game for it and then they were also the group that was responsible for one of the Final Fantasy games okay so they
(4:09:52) were like really big and they had like $100 million that they were invested into it and that [ __ ] flew crazy it went up to like 15 e 16 eth and yeah I mean the amount that I had if I kept it till then yeah I would have been mult that would have been a multi multi-million yeah there's times to like I don't know if you're in the call but I was talking about my story earlier like my start in business was when I was you know third like a teenager essentially like probably when I was like 17 years old I was I was
(4:10:33) selling RuneScape gold I don't know if you oh yeah yeah I played I played RuneScape I was do yeah I was basically essentially making a living selling RuneScape gold and accounts just flipping crazy I had like basically virtual assistant from Venezuela train me yeah and I'd flip that when was this when was this um this was preo this so the accounts is probably in like 201728 oh that's pretty recent I I was I was thinking that you were there in like the early days like early 2000s I started playing for fun in like 2007 oh
(4:11:10) okay okay right I was addicted to that game my like my whole life and I still get the itch to go back but anyways uh yeah they have it on mobile now yeah so so basically I started off selling you know RuneScape gold and RuneScape accounts and during that time like we would just sell the gold via Bitcoin and ethereum and this was like back in the day when Bitcoin was 300 bucks each and we didn't use PayPal to like sell gold because it's a um like it's a virtual good and at the time they can charge back yeah they can charge
(4:11:48) back because had that happen to me in that community that Community was like rampant with like PayPal scammers and stuff paying unpacked PayPal accounts because they'd get the gold yeah right and then they would say they didn't get it and yeah yeah or they just pay using a hacked account so it wouldn't even matter yeah right and then they'd get it keep the gold and then they just resell the gold to someone else trusted for like Bitcoin or whatever so it's like an instant cash out but yeah like we would just so we' take
(4:12:16) Bitcoin to just trade with and like Bitcoin was flowing through our account every single day and there were times where I had like 100 Bitcoin in my account and like but we didn't think of it as an investment opportunity is just a way to trade you know but like looking back it's like holy [ __ ] man if I just like literally sat on my ass and smoked weed and played video games all day I'd be you know multi m blown it away after anyway true and yeah it's like no got to develop that maturity that's why a lot of lottery winners go broke for real
(4:12:51) yeah for sure and I don't regret any of it because in that business like to this day are still some of my best friends you know so yeah that group I was in for the botting the NF Bots right there's a guy I met and he's he's also local to here so I met he had 1,000 bit yeah and he sold it and he made like 200k right but yeah that's yeah he had a th see I didn't I didn't really get into Bitcoin I didn't know about it like I I heard about it in the news and stuff but I never really looked into it but if you I wish I had because I probably would
(4:13:32) have bought a but yeah my buddy um my buddy to back in the day um like during the last Crypt bll run he he basically like longed uum pretty hard in like polygon or madic oh yeah M yeah yeah and it was on FTX and he was up like 300 Grand or something he was doing well it was like he ran like three grand up to like 300 something and then the whole FTX shutdown happened he got shafted I felt it's terrible like there was someo and there's a lot of um what's that word um a lot of criminal activity going on in ethereum there's a lot of uh yeah
(4:14:20) there's CU you would see transactions for tens of millions of dollars for random art so quote unquote art like yeah yeah yeah it's it's uh there's definitely because there was also certain I don't know if you heard of um tornado cash no it was essentially a way that you could uh basically move around Bitcoin without any without basically Anonymous oh okay so you couldn't track the original Source at all so yeah they would they would use that art in general is just for money laundering yeah yeah it's it was all
(4:15:08) money laundering that's all it was because you would see cu the thing with the blockchain is you can see all the transactions happen right yeah and then you notice uh something on openc which is a PL Market the S nfts you would see some dude just dropped like 1,000 eth right which is which at the time was probably like 5 million us or no more than that uh yeah was like was a lot Millions upon Millions us for one and and it wasn't like Yeah The Collection was valuable like the floor let's say the floor was maybe like 4 eth and there
(4:15:45) was an artist behind it but it was just so over the top compared to all the other pieces it's just you know that makes sense and then you you can even look at some of the people's wallets their portfolios what they have there's this one guy I was following trades um dude literally had $500 million worth of NF 500 million that is inane yeah maybe it was Elon in Disguise I don't think he was into he was always into Doge and that stuff I don't think he really was into I think he was actually anti nft yeah I don't think you I don't know I don't think he
(4:16:31) s to them though but who freaking knows I'm still waiting for Jordan's uh tax evasion guy to come out well that's easy you move to a taxfree country uh what is the best way to get into the Mimi coins oh bro just I wouldn't I wouldn't no you're better off going to a casino and I wouldn't even tell you to go to a casino either honestly sustainable business and like here's the thing okay if you're serious about it all it really is is you need to one thing is you need time in Market because you need to understand
(4:17:15) Trends you need to you need to have a good idea of memes right you need to especially on Twitter because most stuff runs on Twitter and telegram that's where a lot of these projects start and they're Shield um they can't really be showed elsewhere because they get taken down and censored some of these some of these things go pretty crazy over the top and yeah you just have you need to have a good idea of public sentiment like there's this guy in you know uh he's um he's in my old uh group that I'm still in but dude literally makes like you
(4:17:51) know um anywhere between 10 salana to like 100 salana in a day where tens salana is like you know $2,000 $2 $3,000 and then you know 100 is like uh 20K so and I think his biggest hit he made like he made like 200 Grand just in one day um but the point is that he knows the market really well because he's been he did a lot of uh he did a lot of paper trading which is basically like you know how you do with stocks you don't necessarily buy it but you track uh using either a spreadsheet or there tools out there that you can and then he
(4:18:37) did a lot of that and he did he was just in the trenches he was just basically just looking at all these different groups all these different uh influencers seeing what they were buying tracking the all the wallets and yeah just it was just he spent months and months like pretty much in you know five six seven eight hours a day daily and suddenly started making money I'm not I'm not going to go like fully into it but um when the you probably won't make then you probably won't make money no I'm just like I want to have the
(4:19:14) wallet or be able to purchase it um for instance the the Trump the Trump coin uh I tried when it was at seven was $7 when I heard about it I was trying to purchase it I tried everything I tried to buy the buy bit something um up but it wasn't working for me uh uh you need a phantom wallet Sol I don't know [ __ ] oh you just want or you just want to buy and hold or you want to invest no I want to like ensure I have it for for example if there is a Elon Co coming out I'll just jump on yeah I mean that's pretty safe that considering like there
(4:20:01) was I don't know if you heard of the there was a oh I mean that's just that's just basic you just want to want to have a wallet yes um so you just yeah like I so there's Solano wallet which gener there's different ones but generally the most popular one is called Phantom there's an app you can download you can get it for your phone uh or you can even get um an extension for your browser but essentially it's just like it's your digital wallet and um yeah so you can uh hold your currencies and you can use that same
(4:20:34) wallet buy and there's different platforms you can use to buy coins uh there's like Photon uh photon is one where people gen uh use to buy um such salana I think all the link and it's yeah so you basically you just want to look at the basics so I guess the basics is you get a phantom wallet for salana because most of the meme coins they run on salana network because salana is cheaper in terms of transaction and it's fast and yeah so yeah most 99% of the me coins on there okay great because I I was extremely bullish on the the CH coin when it it's
(4:21:19) still holding it value like if you bought an early if you bought like you said at $7 it's all I think it's at 17 or something so yeah at seven when I woke up it was at like got 68 I was like [ __ ] oh it went it went to 70 yeah but you got to be careful one thing is is that it's very easy to get drained so you want to be careful what links you click on cuz you can accidentally give them access and I've known people that have been in trading for like years and they still got drained so yeah you got to be careful so you got to be
(4:21:57) careful what links you click make sure the link that you click because you have to give access to your wallet to conduct the transaction and sometimes if you give access to a malicious uh for a permission they can literally just drain you so yeah and crypto is notorious for having yearly you'll see like some Mass pack or drain like tens of millions to you know hundred million dollars that have been drained from different people using an exploit or something like that so the safest route usually for people that hold Bitcoin is to have a physical
(4:22:35) wallet that you store it so it's like a phys it's like a physical digital wallet um or people would you know hold it for bit Hardware wet I guess you oh yeah hey uh Jordan side note or like unrelated question so I I'm looking to like update my seller account info to my Corp information cuz I got my bank statement now I remember you said just wait till I get that to be safe yep so I I'm going to go update and I'm going into my account settings and so under business information there's business address and phone number I'm assuming I
(4:23:24) change that cuz I think that's the one that shows up under your profile right but there's also something called Legal entity am I like should I be changing that as well because when I click on it it says legal business name and place of uh establish M address which should you know is different now because I registered my Corp so do you think I should be changing that too yes so let me open it here because it's been a minute since I've done it so yeah the legal entity uh you'll input your actual Corporation name and corresponding address in there
(4:24:03) make sure make sure you have your bank statement and also your article incorporation right it's not likely that they will ask you for them but sometimes they do so just in uh but chances are I believe when you do that it'll ask you to redo the tax interview so like yeah that's what it's saying yeah so like they just want you to answer the questions they're not going to actually call you unlikely they may want to they may want to do like an actual phone ver or call verification like uh video verification uh right but I believe it's
(4:24:37) rare so yeah but you go through there and you update it and then you have to answer the tax questions then you should be good to go okay and then yeah business address and phone number so is the legal entity the one that shows up under your seller account then correct okay um got are you are you already making the change no I haven't yet but I'm just like looking through the options just to make sure that it's I'm like it's good to go basically but you said to open a ticket correct yeah I would just in case case like not saying
(4:25:13) that's going to do anything but just say that open it it just helps cover your ass a little bit we open up a a support support ticket and just say hey I've Incorporated I want to change it on my Amazon account just let me know what I need to do and then they'll just say like yeah just make the change you're you're good to go just so like they don't your account doesn't get flagged as in like somebody's trying to take it over and then get for sure get frozen so I should wait for their response first I would yeah okay so I'll do that tonight
(4:25:43) and then if hopefully they respond by the morning and then I'll do it in the morning yeah yeah cuz I don't want to screw myself over it too cuz I'm currently prepping a big shipment as well so I don't want to like lose access to my account for 24 hours or something and I can't send the shipment off I mean like worst wor absolute worst case scenario that like they might temporarily freeze your account it's more so to protect it in case somebody access to it uh but it's usually for relatively short period of time so business address and phone
(4:26:16) number and El okay and for the business address and phone number there's no like when I click add new address for example it just shows name I guess I just put my Corp name in there correct yeah okay and then once you once you're done that uh go back into your account and add in another shipping address with your with your personal name on it to ensure that's still attached to your account yeah so when I go into um business address right it shows current business address I click select an address and I have like there there's a drop- down
(4:26:51) menu with like all the bubbles that you could select and it's basically like all my past addresses I ship to and stuff yeah so I think that means that it's all good to go right yeah you want to make sure that you have the ones that you primarily use just in case you need to provide documentation so that you have that address linked to your account yeah as long as it's there when you click select address right because only one of the main ones is going to be like only your main one is the one that shows us the current business address correct
(4:27:23) when you go select I have like my yeah other locations and like my what's it called like the the crossborder service I use and stuff too right I like added everything and I also I got paranoid and I added like every variation of my address add that I used to I mean just in case you know certainly help yeah I talked to somebody who went through a section three and like they afterwards I told them like you know like you could you can add on additional addresses to your account and they didn't know that because
(4:28:00) they're like well [ __ ] that would have saved me probably like 50 hours of compiling documents because they had to go through and like try to reate uh invoices that had their address on it cuz their prep Center address wasn't on the account and that's where all all the all the invoices were for yeah [ __ ] that's yeah yeah [ __ ] man that's terrifying I mean you still you still get it done [ __ ] takes forever yeah and you never know I saw the post you you posted like the Reddit post of the Amazon employees saying that oh I
(4:28:35) just like instant declined everything I'm like oh my god I've been say like why oh that [ __ ] happens all the time right why don't these people oh God damn it's like yeah like yeah Amazon [ __ ] me over but it's like yeah you literally just [ __ ] over like you know John down the road now he can't feed his family like [ __ ] man yeah but unfortunately there's a lot of people that just don't care yeah it's a large subsection of our population man yep very very unmotivated and don't care about a whole lot of nothing
(4:29:13) yeah jealous um the the have you persons that are trying to get ungated um notice like the the exiant number of units you have to um show them like 300 400 um um like trying to get Ed especially in the US is just 400 units 300 I saw the picture you posted yeah I thought that was like a oneoff but especially um like units that are moving like a th a month or or such I see I'm trying to like onate um 200 units 400 units I'm like why you need so much like sorry I Jama sorry
(4:30:21) no yeah that's insane yeah and I don't know I've never seen that the most I've seen was like what is it like the 50 or whatever that Amazon says like if you're doing an a2a invoice I forgot what the amount was cuz I think it's 50 right quite of yeah it's not asking for it though like it's not even asking for like the Amazon inbox it's just from the distributor um we like 100 units uh distributor 200 units distributor 300 units 400 units I'm like [ __ ] yeah with that like they may be updating that requirement based on the sales volume of
(4:31:09) that product because you mentioned like they sell a lot so it is potential that for regular ingredents they're wanting to see like that you actually have intention to sell that product and that you have intention that you're selling x amount of units not saying that it's a good way to do it but that's might be what their thought process is but chances are also probably decent that eventually you'll probably get Auto ungated for a lot of that stuff as well yeah I remember when I started I was gated in like a [ __ ] ton of stuff
(4:31:45) but now like it's super rare that I'm gated in something and I've only ever like unated three things in my life I think like manually I'm trying to get ungated in um in in grocery in the US with in Canada and he like I'm actually CH I reached a point where I I'm literally want to cuss like Amazon like hey I purchased from you I purchased 150 [ __ ] units um here is the business invoice and you're telling me that um the you know the uh the bot response this is invol this is uh the B response dat nor want give I'm like I
(4:32:32) months have have you named so I noticed something I don't know if it's a coincidence but it worked like twice in a row when I did this have you named like the file as say like you're trying to get ungated in Lego did you just name the actual invoice Lego invoice for example because I did that so like I would do like the As and then invoice or whatever and it was always getting instant Decline and then I sent the exact same invoice for Lego and I just saved the file name as Lego invoice and it got instant ungated and the same for
(4:33:08) when I did it for Marvel as well I got I kept getting denied and then I just renamed it to that and it was like 10 minutes just ungated so maybe try that I don't know if it's a coincidence or like it got through the like the bot security I don't know how it works but like the bot detection try that is is the cas it's the the food and grocery category so yeah so just name it like grocery invoice or whatever oh yeah def to tr you know it's worth a try cuz I noticed it worked for me instantly and that it was same with like Bath and
(4:33:49) Body Works I couldn't get ungated for that too and then once I named the invoice Bath and Body Works invoice it got instant ungated interesting yeah I don't know why but yeah it like slipped past the uh bot detection or something it just deemed it valid for some reason yeah could be like that one layer of their Auto decline [ __ ] is the name of the invoice so yeah that is a nice little hack to get through it potentially it was the exact same uh like file I sent to I don't even think I like resc screenshotted it
(4:34:31) right well that's good to know and if that works wrong let us know [Music] yeah grocer so want to sleep how many times have you sent it in so far um at least to be honest um no no exaggeration at least uh 80 times oh my God yeah if this gets it on gated instantly you you owe me 10 bucks you you gotta buy me lunch I've been trying to get problem since November with this you got to order a pizza to my house if so definitely def as I said I reach the bowling point where I'm actually want I call I even call the Reps and like hey can you look
(4:35:25) into this for me because something is definitely wrong is it because I remember you mentioned you open a new account or something is that the reason because it's like a newer account or were you never on Gat for GR tree uh I wasn't uh I was I wasn't I let me let me think so with this new account I thought at first maybe I hadn't sold enough products so um I waited to like okay I sold over 20,000 in Canada so let me try again been trying been trying been trying been trying was time sorry about that sorry about that
(4:36:11) different but it was really hard I I'm still frustrated basically yeah i' be too that's that's a lot try I even tried um the As and um Dash invoice yeah I tried that too and that didn't work for me but then once I changed it to the actual like brand name it worked I haven't done it for like a category and you know my theory was correct I only tested it with like Brands itself but I'd say give give it a try if you already sent 80 in you know like what's 81 mer P yeah just say it like grocery space invoice that's it like no dash no
(4:37:03) nothing I because I even went the route of um downloading the invoice and um highlighting it I like yeah I think I tried almost everything yeah [ __ ] man and like grocery too that's such like an entry-level category it's not like you're trying to get ungated for like apple or something you know like this is just grocery I remember that was the first thing I got unated for and it was like I bought 10 packs of like Swedish berries from Amazon it was like $10 and it worked like the first try when I first started selling on
(4:37:51) Amazon grocery wasn't even a gated category oh yeah my buddy starting in the UK he just open his Amazon account and he's gated in like absolutely everything and it's actually insane I don't even know how like how he's supposed to start there should be something there that he can sell yeah yeah I mean like he found a couple things but like 90 plus% of his of the leads he finds are gated right but it's probably one of those things like I feel like once he sends in a couple shipments he'll get Auto enged in a lot of things y I've heard the UK
(4:38:42) Market's actually pretty good too like they're considerably larger than ours I think it's more than double our size yeah I I follow like a few sellers on the Twitter that are doing crazy numbers like all the way if they're legit I think they're legit but who freaking knows these days yep I had some random uh I think he was French dude sent me a message on uh Instagram I posted a video about like our solar watch bot like a quite a while ago and like it seemed like he just expected like that I would give him the code for our pot what
(4:39:23) like I I think I deleted the conversation let me see if I still have it but I was like what the [ __ ] are you talking about and yeah it just seemed like because he had like a following that he just figured that I would just give him like the cotour bot cuz he's like oh like um would you like do want to share that like I have like x amount of following on Twitter or Instagram I'm like no like why the [ __ ] why the [ __ ] does that matter to me right that's crazy though yeah I don't s watch is actually amazing I don't have
(4:39:58) the message anymore but I was like what the [ __ ] are you doing like the entitlement Jesus yeah I have following so give me this that's crazy have you utilized the keep product finder bought at all Nick no not yet I saw you make a post about it and I was interested but like I really don't use keepa product finder in general these days but I definitely want to dabble into it because I used it in the past when I started I found a good amount of leads with it just using like very broad categories yep but yeah that seems
(4:40:42) like extremely overpowered if you know how to use it properly so where is it did you make like a video on it on like a walk through yeah I post it in the command list Channel I just like yeah I'm trying to look for it at the very bottom I'll send you a link here I put a link in the chat oh true I'm going to check that out for sure can be pretty pretty nifty if you utilize it the right way yeah especially for like a2a flips and stuff as well I've been seeing a lot more of those I remember like like storefront stalking
(4:41:25) people I'm like why the [ __ ] do these people have so many items at Amazon selling are they bad at sourcing like what's going on and then I realized like after you you know put me on to that I I'm like realizing like like oh [ __ ] these are all a TOA flips and like I noticed there's some like storefronts that Focus mainly on those you know there's a lot of money to be made in those yep 100% yeah I'm still like an absolute Noob with it though but I definitely want to dabble more have you tried any at all yeah I tried one and I think I
(4:42:04) made a bad buy because the price isn't going back up so I'm just going to return it what kind of product was it a video game but it doesn't seem like it's going to recover some video games like their life cycle can be interesting because like we'll see it be like very expensive and steady at like the the very start and then like around Christmas like we'll typically see like a small discount and then and then recovery and then quite often we'll see it like if it's at the end of its life cycle especially like sports games they
(4:42:36) they'll come down and they'll die and they'll just stay dead yeah exactly it's kind of let's say like it's a holiday themed game so was it the Grinch yeah yeah it was so I'm just gonna return it you're luy I bought um it was because it was my first Q4 um and uh when the account open in November I bought some um Nintendo switch um like Hogwarts Gamers or something like that Awards Legacy yeah yeah they move so fast like f I'm like what bought more move and then okay I'm like I'm going heavy and then it stops I'm like Stu on it but I just
(4:43:31) decided that um I'm just GNA sell it for like very very very low margin and get back my money I'm I apolog and ru I'm not really yeah I'm not waiting on anything you get used to that too like the more asens you have and the more [ __ ] you sell the like less you care about a specific as you're like if I sell this one at a loss like all the other asens make up for it it doesn't really matter yeah but like when you're small and you have 10 asens and like one AC the price tanks you're like no right like there goes there goes all my money yeah
(4:44:12) like as you get bigger you stop giving a [ __ ] as much I've tried to tell a lot of people that when they first start it's like don't get married to stuff and like no when people are cutting down the price like don't get super pissed off but like it's hard because like they're not used to that they're like I don't understand I still get annoyed I'm like this guy's a [ __ ] idiot but like you know and I notice it's like mostly new sellers with like one to five or like zero to like five feedback and it's like you guys are undercutting like by 10
(4:44:44) cents every time it's just like you're not you're clearly not making money it was funny um there's a couple people on here who have found my dad's store okay okay because uh I've had people a couple people specifically ask me like because his his name yeah his name was previously on a store he obviously has the same last name as I do okay so a couple people found it and asked me like oh like do you know this person like yeah obviously it's in Sask it was my dad's store so um a while ago I don't remember how long
(4:45:20) ago it was but I finally got him set up with a repricer and so I showed him how to use it and like he has like full like he he's the one that's doing it and setting it up right and he doesn't always remember things of how I shown him or do things properly so somebody had messaged me and they said do you want to tell your dad to stop [ __ ] undercutting [ __ ] with his repricer like he he's he's Penny cutting and so then the next time I went to his house I was like why are you like undercutting by a penny on your
(4:45:51) repressor like what I'm not I'm not doing that I'm like well obviously you have your settings [ __ ] up you change something you didn't remember it oh man so he he was one of those for a while at least it wasn't malicious you know like he didn't even know so I forgive him for for that yeah but you wouldn't know if like you didn't know his storefront or anything right yeah that's true maybe I screaming at him I'm like what the [ __ ] is this guy doing I guess the the the girl she it didn't work for me the [ __ ] ah it was
(4:46:29) worth a try yeah and I have like a ton of leads in that category like yeah are they they Canadian leads like Canada to Canada yeah and and US to Canada so oh us yeah US to Canada yeah I mean I'd be kind of careful with that right now with the tariffs and you know biling bilingual labeling and [ __ ] too yeah but I have I have a way to get around that um okay not bilingual but in terms of tariff I ship it to someone and they bring that [ __ ] across the border okay I mean hey if it works it works it's good to know
(4:47:23) people yeah recently Ron knows some guys I know some guys I Rob some guys no but uh I've heard some of you some of you Jamaican dudes can be pretty crazy Jamaicans are just um res um my mom has a friend who quite a few years ago she she used to live here and then she moved to Jamaica because she it like the the nice weather helped with whatever health condition she had and uh she ended up finding a dude and marrying him there so you guys are taking our women but uh she she brought him to to
(4:48:31) Canada a a good like probably like four or five years ago and I met him super super nice guy but uh not that long ago him and his brother started a weed farm in Jamaica oh [ __ ] he's that's crazy I don't live I don't really live that in that um herea anymore you guys how would I put it in Jamaica we call it country country call it which where in no in Jamaica we call it country meaning um that's where like the bushes are at yeah yeah the country yeah we call that here too kind of right like the the boonies the country like that's where Jordan's
(4:49:32) from I'm from the Prairies calm down yeah you what's what's that I saying do you drink red strip Ron yeah yeah um barely barely um it's have to be a occasion or something I'm not a dread you're not sorry I am not a dread I am yeah I know I'm not saying you are I'm just asking I have to ask what what what do bumac clot oh god dude my neighbor says it all the time uh it's what is I don't know I really don't it's just an expression and expression can goes goes uh good or bad when so yeah but like the actual word it doesn't it mean literally like
(4:50:42) you know like an [ __ ] or like no like a period rag or whatever but like by definition but like it's just like a phrase that you yeah so it's to me to be hon it's just a Jamaican expression I think cuz if something is good is just the way you say it if you're angry is just the way you see it so trust me it it h you have to be actually understand do people use it often there very very very very and it's it's like um way of life that's my neighbor only says it when he's pissed off so yeah I I hear it as more of like
(4:51:35) uh uh some use people use it when they're surprised I've heard it use that uh use it when uh yeah they surprised or shocked or yeah I've heard it I've heard people being called bum clots yeah we up here in that so I don't know this was so good just roll off the tong you know just natural just natural well um do you guys have any other um ways in which you would like um construct uh like the ways to get on
(4:52:43) you're doing a2a right now it it was an a2a flip I'm trying to unade and um but it's just as I said it's over 80 times or more to be honest but I'm I'm saying the um like the invoice you're using is an Amazon invoice yes do you have any like distributors or something you could buy units from instead or like do you know any I I think like a good thing I noticed like you know when you order [ __ ] sometimes and they come with an invoice in the box but you you only get an order confirmation like I feel like maybe
(4:53:21) those sites would be good to use for ungating as well because I feel like Amazon would recognize the paper you get in the box is like a legit invoice I don't know any sites off the top of my head that do that though without like giving away my leads doesn't cabes do that I don't know if they recognize that though but I think they give like a paper slip in the Box I'm not sure if Cab's invoices work I haven't heard of if they do yeah um but yeah like with like your current invoice r on like if you've tried that
(4:54:01) many times uh it's just sounds like Amazon just not going to accept it I mean like obviously you can try all kinds of different [ __ ] but if you've already tried everything it's can't really give any other recommendations for that like again there's probably no reason why they're not accepting it uh you can try applying against different products of course because it doesn't yeah if it if like say if you have like dentine gum for example um and you're trying to apply for trying to apply against like a five pack maybe you can try and apply against
(4:54:36) a one pack just to see if it makes a difference but besides that you might just have to try a different invoice from a different place so a place that does work should work rather is a staples's preferred account so it's like a quote unquote business account but anybody can open it and you can even buy something like gum from Staples and you should only have to buy 10 units because that's not an Amazon invoice that's yeah that's a good idea did you try like printing the invoice out like physically on paper and taking
(4:55:09) a picture of it yeah and highlighting it yeah yeah i' say man just try to buy something else cheap you know like the Staples thing with like gum or something sounds like a good idea like gum or tea or something like that yeah because then with staples like it wouldn't be an Amazon invoice so you should only be required for 10 units and yeah you just need a Staples preferred account because it comes as like a it looks like a a regular invoice and I've seen multiple people get ungated for multiple different products through
(4:55:49) Staples definitely going to try that I would just yeah because that's annoying I would have gave up yeah I would just find something cheap like sugar or tea or gum and yeah probably cost you like 30 40 50 bucks uh the thing is I the thing is um the lead that I found I when you because from my previous account I was like selling these sell selling those and it was really good so me thinking okay because it was a a TOA flip I was like this opportunity um doesn't really come very often so let me jump on it did that um then there was a
(4:56:40) different opportunity with a different brand but it was in the US so I was trying to use that invoice as well still still doesn't work but I'm definitely going to try um a non Amazon invoice and see how that was yeah it's still might take a bit like it's common that most invoices will take multiple tries but it shouldn't ever take 80 tries it should it should take like a few at most yeah I'm been trying to get since let me check November 2020 November 22 2024 is yeah but yeah give give Staples a try and let me know how she
(4:57:36) works and it it print your um bill right so like what you'll want to utilize the address that you have saved on uh Amazon right yeah that's why I'm asking about business address because my business card is uh within the United States yeah but and like you you should be able to use a United States invoice for for Canada but of course the Staples preferred is Canadian so like as long as you have the the address that that's on the invoice on your Amazon account you can save it as a secondary address it should be
(4:58:16) fine okay good but I think I'm gonna call it a night here boys so I hope everybody has themselves a good evening and uh yeah we'll probably talk shortly yes all right man take care
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